Why do some raise and wave their arms while singing?

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Really??? Do tell?

In reality, raising one’s hands is quite different from “throwing oneself around” and “gyrating”. One involves the lifting of one’s hands. The other involves, well “gyrating.”

And another thing, “gyrating” is a word with some negative connotations. It suggests “suggestive” movements, and it is ridiculous to say that any one moved to worship God with their whole body, mind, and soul is “gyrating” provocatively.

There is a time and place for everything. Sometimes its good to wait on the Lord in the stillness and splendor of His holiness. Other times, it is good to lift up your voice and dance before the Lord.

I’m sorry to burst everyone’s bubble, but when David was before the very presence of the Lord he did offer God praise by “leaping and dancing.” Of course, not everyone could tolerate such openness and vulnerability. David’s wife told David he was “vulgar,” but David was not phased or troubled. He told his wife, “I will make myself yet more contemptible than this, and I will be abased in your eyes.” (2 Samuel 6:16-23)

Who said that praise to God had to be dignified or acceptable to the sensibilities of bystanders?

I’m sorry for making a big deal about this. But I find it odd that so many people have so many ideas about what is the proper and right ways to worship God that in reality often contradict examples we are shown in Scripture. If its good enough for King David to praise God in a dance and a shout, why not for me?
I think it is a difference in cultures than anything else. Catholics seem quiter in general. We spoke and sang in tounges but quietly.

Perhaps it comes from Catholicism in Americas Irish roots. Irish learned to be quiet in church during penal days.

I am very sure things would be more lively in Hispanic parishes.
 
It’s just culture really. David danced before the Lord. WordPress that is not the way I personally would feel comfortable in worship, but if it suits others, good for them.
 
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Really??? Do tell?

In reality, raising one’s hands is quite different from “throwing oneself around” and “gyrating”. One involves the lifting of one’s hands. The other involves, well “gyrating.”

And another thing, “gyrating” is a word with some negative connotations. It suggests “suggestive” movements, and it is ridiculous to say that any one moved to worship God with their whole body, mind, and soul is “gyrating” provocatively.

There is a time and place for everything. Sometimes its good to wait on the Lord in the stillness and splendor of His holiness. Other times, it is good to lift up your voice and dance before the Lord.

I’m sorry to burst everyone’s bubble, but when David was before the very presence of the Lord he did offer God praise by “leaping and dancing.” Of course, not everyone could tolerate such openness and vulnerability. David’s wife told David he was “vulgar,” but David was not phased or troubled. He told his wife, “I will make myself yet more contemptible than this, and I will be abased in your eyes.” (2 Samuel 6:16-23)

Who said that praise to God had to be dignified or acceptable to the sensibilities of bystanders?

I’m sorry for making a big deal about this. But I find it odd that so many people have so many ideas about what is the proper and right ways to worship God that in reality often contradict examples we are shown in Scripture. If its good enough for King David to praise God in a dance and a shout, why not for me?

I think it is a difference in cultures than anything else. Catholics seem quiter in general. We spoke and sang in tounges but quietly.

Perhaps it comes from Catholicism in Americas Irish roots. Irish learned to be quiet in church during penal days.

I am very sure things would be more lively in Hispanic parishes.
Partially it is ethnic culture. Have you ever noticed that people expect the “African American” church to be more charismatic in style no matter what the denomination?

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I do not understand how you could be driven crazy by something that happens at someone else’s church that is so innocuous. I mean if you don’t like it…don’t go. It’s one thing to say that what they preach drives you crazy because it it not true…but the volume of their music?
My wife attends a “mega-church” and the volume of the music there is so loud that it makes me more than uncomfortable. When I visit, I literally wear foam ear plugs to blunt the volume.

If I remember correctly, when Bush the elder sent troops to Panama to oust Noriega, they drove him out by playing very loud music. It can be more than disconcerting.
 
Why do members of some Protestant groups raise and wave their arms while singing hymns and songs? Is there a specific significance to this? And how did this develop?
In every place of worship, I want men to pray with holy hands lifted up to God, free from anger and controversy.

1 Tim 2:8 for starters 🙂
 
I thought the following article at Everyone Worship broke it down nicely.
The Bible talks about lifting hands both in the Old and the New Testament in several different contexts. According to scripture there are several reasons we raise our hands. Lifting our hands is a way to:
Bless others and bless God.
“When he had led them our to the vicinity of Bethany, he lifted up his hands and blessed them.” Luke 24:50
“Then Aaron lifted his hands toward the people and blessed them.” Lev 9:22
“Lift up your hands in the sanctuary and praise the LORD. May the LORD…bless you.” Psalm 134:2,3
Stand in agreement with the body of Christ.
“Ezra praised the LORD, the great God!; and all the people lifted their hands and responded, “‘Amen! Amen!” Then they bowed down and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground.” Nehemiah 8:6
Ask God for help.
“Hear my cry for mercy as I call to you for help, as I lift up my hands toward your Most Holy Place.” Psalm 28:2
Offer your life as a living sacrifice to God.
“May my prayer be set before you like incense; may the lifting up of my hands be like the evening sacrifice.” Psalm 141:3
Confess to God your sin.
“Let us lift up our hearts and our hands to God in heaven, and say: We have sinned and rebelled and you have not forgiven…” Lamentations 3:41,42
In conclusion when we lift our hands in worship we are:
Blessing the church, blessing God and receiving blessing
Standing in agreement and in unity with the church
Admitting we cannot do things on our own and we need Gods help.
Giving our hearts and lives as an offering to God
Confessing our sin to God so we would be made clean and righteous.
 
I thought the following article at Everyone Worship broke it down nicely.

Ecclesiastes 9:17 ~ listen to quiet wisdom over loud foolishness

“Be still and know that I am God”. Ps 46:10

For me, my relationship with God is personal and private. I dont have to scream, shout, mimick, raise hands, wave hands and prove to anyone my love and devotion to Christ. Some folks enjoy that and I respect everyones right to express their freedom to worship as they see fit.

There is nothing about that style of worship that is comfortable for me. And that is why I choose to stay as far away from it as I can.
 
Since Scripture shows both quiet worship and raising hands in worship as legitimate and since it can be shown that Chistians have done both throughout the history of the church, both forms of worship are legitimate and a matter of preference. There are times when I prefer the quiet style and the liturgy and times when I prefer lifting hands in praise.
 
It’s an act of worship. It is a sacrifice of praise to God. It could even be considered as a prayer in and of itself, as when you are so frustrated and you don’t know what do to and so you lift up your hands in supplication and prayer to God.

Psalm 134:2: “Lift up your hands in the sanctuary and praise the LORD.”
Psalm 141:2: “Let my prayer be counted as incense before you, and** the lifting up of my hands** as the evening sacrifice!”
Psalm 28:2: “Hear the voice of my pleas for mercy, when I cry to you for help, when I lift up my hands toward your most holy sanctuary.”
Lamentations 2:19: “Arise, cry out in the night, at the beginning of the night watches! Pour out your heart like water before the presence of the Lord!** Lift your hands to him for the lives of your children, who faint for hunger at the head of every street."
1 Timothy 2:9-10: "I desire then that in every place the men should pray,
lifting holy hands** without anger or quarreling”

There are many other verses besides this that talk about lifting of hands as part of worship.

The raising of hands is a very ancient act of worship. It’s not just a Christian or Jewish thing either. I believe pagans in the Mediterranean world would have prayed with outstretched hands as well.

It sort of experienced a revival in the 19th and 20th centuries with more revivalistic and Pentecostal type traditions developing.

If you want to know more, look at the Wikipedia entry on the Orans.
PRAISE on! 👍
 
Why do members of some Protestant groups raise and wave their arms while singing hymns and songs? Is there a specific significance to this? And how did this develop?
Main reason- it gets the people going. Probably started to develop during the Second Great Awakening, but then a whole lot of things started to develop then. Sort of gave Christianity in the United States its own unique identity and voice, while spreading that identity worldwide via missionaries at almost the exact same time.

For those who are bothered by or uncomfortable with emotion and expressiveness in a church service, please allow me to gently remind you of two words. Black church.

That is all.
 
Main reason- it gets the people going. Probably started to develop during the Second Great Awakening, but then a whole lot of things started to develop then. Sort of gave Christianity in the United States its own unique identity and voice, while spreading that identity worldwide via missionaries at almost the exact same time.

For those who are bothered by or uncomfortable with emotion and expressiveness in a church service, please allow me to gently remind you of two words. Black church.

That is all.
I respectfully ask, what do you mean by Black Church…
 
I respectfully ask, what do you mean by Black Church…
Well, there’s these churches in America that minister to a primarily black congregation. There is a distinctive style of music, preaching, and worship that tends to set these churches apart in a cultural sense. Incidentally, one of the main characteristics of this particular identity entails much raising of the hands. Just a little something to keep in mind when you’re talking about how odd these people are, who do things at church that are strange and different and certainly intolerable within the Latinate tradition.

There may or may not be some black Christians around to see or comment, but it doesn’t really make a difference either way. Christians worship in different ways because of differences in cultural backgrounds, and sometimes there is a strong racial element as well. I want to introduce this as a subtext to keep in mind because this topic has some indirect bearing on racial issues that may demand some care and sensitivity.

So that’s what I mean, and that’s why I brought it up. It may be something to keep in the back of everyone’s collective mind.
 
There may or may not be some black Christians around to see or comment, but it doesn’t really make a difference either way. Christians worship in different ways because of differences in cultural backgrounds, and sometimes there is a strong racial element as well. I want to introduce this as a subtext to keep in mind because this topic has some indirect bearing on racial issues that may demand some care and sensitivity.

So that’s what I mean, and that’s why I brought it up. It may be something to keep in the back of everyone’s collective mind.
It was mentioned earlier in the thread. Maybe the since of how “black” is used caused me to write African American when I generally self identify as “Black”
 
I think it is a difference in cultures than anything else. Catholics seem quiter in general. We spoke and sang in tounges but quietly.

Perhaps it comes from Catholicism in Americas Irish roots. Irish learned to be quiet in church during penal days.

I am very sure things would be more lively in Hispanic parishes.
Actually, the majority of my peoples churches are quiet. It comes from them once being catholic. There are a few that are lively, but with their music.
 
Main reason- it gets the people going. Probably started to develop during the Second Great Awakening, but then a whole lot of things started to develop then. Sort of gave Christianity in the United States its own unique identity and voice, while spreading that identity worldwide via missionaries at almost the exact same time.

For those who are bothered by or uncomfortable with emotion and expressiveness in a church service, please allow me to gently remind you of two words. Black church.

That is all.
Do you have a problem with the African Americans? I love the way they praise God, its beautiful.
 
Do you have a problem with the African Americans? I love the way they praise God, its beautiful.
I think you two are talking past each other I got the opposite impression from his post. A bit off topic but it seems to be what happened as the community shifted from “say it loud, I’m Black and I’m proud” to emphasizing perceived African cultural roots and started using African American instead of Black as a self identifier.
 
Come on people! “The Black Church” is standard usage to refer to the African-American Protestant tradition in the United States. Please refer to Wikipedia: Black church.
 
Come on people! “The Black Church” is standard usage to refer to the African-American Protestant tradition in the United States. Please refer to Wikipedia: Black church.
I remember a few years ago as the media style books started changing sometimes it slipped by the editors that in stories mentioning the color black and not a community of people their word processing software automatically changed “black” to “African American” :o
 
Maybe because they just don’t care.

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