Why do some say that Catholic is not Christian?

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I have been told before that being Catholic is completely different than being Christian. How is this even possible? I mean I can understand people saying say Mormons amd Jehovah’s Witnesses not being Christian but how can one say the largest denomination in Christianity amd not to mention arguably the original church which is suppose Eastern Orthodox churches can claim as well is the original church?
 
Because most of the people who say this believe that Christianity began in te United States in the eighteenth century. They want nothing to do with history or the truth.
 
The CC and EO’s are not denominations. All Protestant churches are denominations.

Ask the person who is saying this “what is your definition of a christian?” Then counter with your definition: We are baptised in water in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
 
I have been told before that being Catholic is completely different than being Christian. How is this even possible? I mean I can understand people saying say Mormons amd Jehovah’s Witnesses not being Christian but how can one say the largest denomination in Christianity amd not to mention arguably the original church which is suppose Eastern Orthodox churches can claim as well is the original church?
Hi! 🙂 Tell the person/people who told you this info. that ‘Catholic’ means ‘all-embracing’ - this title is about as Christian as it gets! 👍
 
I have been told before that being Catholic is completely different than being Christian. How is this even possible? I mean I can understand people saying say Mormons amd Jehovah’s Witnesses not being Christian but how can one say the largest denomination in Christianity amd not to mention arguably the original church which is suppose Eastern Orthodox churches can claim as well is the original church?
They don’t understand what the word Christian really means. They have been taught that it means that you believe things other than what the Church that Christ established teaches.

They often don’t really know that all of Christianity comes from the Catholic Church.

Some of them interpret it to mean that you believe a heresy called “Once Saved Always Saved.” Others think it means anything but Catholic.

Protestant means to protest the Catholic Church - God’s Church.
 
The CC and EO’s are not denominations. All Protestant churches are denominations.

Ask the person who is saying this “what is your definition of a christian?” Then counter with your definition: We are baptised in water in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
Your answer is why.

They don’t believe that everybody who is baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spririt as a baby makes them automatically be a christian.

It’s really easy. Christian has the word CHRIST in it. Anybody who believes in Christ is a Christian. But catholics don’t concentrate on this and so the doubt that we’re Christian.

Fran
 
I have been told before that being Catholic is completely different than being Christian. How is this even possible? I mean I can understand people saying say Mormons amd Jehovah’s Witnesses not being Christian but how can one say the largest denomination in Christianity amd not to mention arguably the original church which is suppose Eastern Orthodox churches can claim as well is the original church?
I am not a Catholic but I would say being Catholic is being Christian. However, I would not say that being a Catholic means you are a Christian. Neither does being a Lutheran, Baptist etc mean you are a Christian.
 
I am not a Catholic but I would say being Catholic is being Christian. However, I would not say that being a Catholic means you are a Christian. Neither does being a Lutheran, Baptist etc mean you are a Christian.
You mean that one is a Christian if one is Catholic but that one can be Catholic without behaving as a Christian? But then if one can be Catholic but not behave as a Christian then one is not a Catholic either. What you actually mean is that we can all be unChristian in our attitudes no matter what Christian denomination (I’d agree with this)?
 
Your answer is why.

They don’t believe that everybody who is baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spririt as a baby makes them automatically be a christian.

It’s really easy. Christian has the word CHRIST in it. Anybody who believes in Christ is a Christian. But catholics don’t concentrate on this and so the doubt that we’re Christian.

Fran
Actually, no. Christianity has some unique marks that go beyond belief in Christ. Let’s look at sects such as Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses. Mormons believe in Christ, and baptize with the correct form and matter, but still their baptism is invalid, because they believe in henotheism; and they believe that God the Father and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are separate gods. Jehovah’s Witnesses also believe in Christ, but their concept of Christ is utterly foreign to Christian belief. They adhere to the Arian heresy; they deny the Holy Trinity; they believe Christ is not divine but is the personification of St. Michael the Archangel.

I could go on with other non-Trinitarian sects such as Iglesia ni Cristo and others. Suffice it to say that “belief in Christ” is not the defining characteristic of Christianity, not from a Catholic perspective.
 
That some say it does not prove that they are correct. It would be very interesting to hear them explain in reasonable detail just how they reached that conclusion.

Christians believe that Jesus Christ is indeed the Living Son of God. Accepting that Christ is the Son of God, we should understand that Christ cannot lie. Here is what Christ said and why I am a Catholic and thus a Christian.

**Matthew 16: 15-19 ** He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter said in reply, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” Jesus said to him in reply, **“Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
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Matthew 22: 36-40: “Teacher, which commandment in the law is the greatest?” He said to him, “You shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the greatest and the first commandment. The second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. The whole law and the prophets depend on these two commandments.”

John 6: 51-56
“I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.” The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?” Jesus said to them, **“Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. **

Luke 22: 19-20 Then he took the bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them, saying, **“This is my body, which will be given for you; do this in memory of me.” **And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, **“This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which will be shed for you.”
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John 20: 19-23 On the evening of that first day of the week, when the doors were locked, where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in their midst and said to them, **“Peace be with you.” **When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. The disciples rejoiced when they saw the Lord. [Jesus] said to them again, **“Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.” **And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.”

John 14: 23-26
Jesus answered and said to him, “Whoever loves me will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our dwelling with him. Whoever does not love me does not keep my words; yet the word you hear is not mine but that of the Father who sent me. I have told you this while I am with you. The Advocate, the holy Spirit that the Father will send in my name—he will teach you everything and remind you of all that * told you.”*
 
You mean that one is a Christian if one is Catholic but that one can be Catholic without behaving as a Christian? But then if one can be Catholic but not behave as a Christian then one is not a Catholic either. What you actually mean is that we can all be un
Christin in our attitudes no matter what Christian denomination (I’d agree with i

Basically I am saying that belonging to a church does not make you a Christian. However, I can agree that Catholicism , Lutheranism or whatever valid ism is being Christian.
 
The reason why some Protestants don’t consider Catholics Christians is because they say we follow man made tradition and not the bible…we are idol worshipers .they mock us because we believe that the Eucharist is the real body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ…the Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon…the Pope is the anti-Christ…and we Catholics are going to hell because we follow an apostate church…hows that for starters…😃
 
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Basically I am saying that belonging to a church does not make you a Christian. However, I can agree that Catholicism , Lutheranism or whatever valid ism is being Christian.
Hi again. 👍 I see. I’d tend to disagree. Because of Baptism, we can be bad Catholics, and so bad Christians, but we are still Catholic Christians even when bad ones. When we are sinning, we are sinful Catholic Christians, and if we lapse, we are lapsed Catholics (Catholic Christians). If we are excommunicated Catholic Christians, we are excommunicated Catholic Christians. I think, officially, I’m correct in thinking this. But don’t quote me on it.
 
I have been told before that being Catholic is completely different than being Christian. How is this even possible? I mean I can understand people saying say Mormons amd Jehovah’s Witnesses not being Christian but how can one say the largest denomination in Christianity amd not to mention arguably the original church which is suppose Eastern Orthodox churches can claim as well is the original church?
When I tell people what I am like generally what I say is I am Christian specifically Catholic specifically Latin. All though sometimes I might identify as Catholic immediately but I will mention what I believe about Christianity and use the word Christianity and make sure people know that I apply it to me. By the way my two closest female friends one is Baptist Independent Baptist and very much considers me a Christian my other very close female friend is Anglican Church in North America and also very much considers me a fellow Christian. This is by no means universal in the Protestant world and I thought it would be good to defend that now the reason that I would not consider Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons Christian well Mormon you know we Catholics get accused of adding books to the Bible they really did, in fact they have a couple of other books they consider Scripture and Jehovah’s Witnesses beliefs especially on the Trinity or lack thereof. Conflicts with traditional Christianity
 
Hi! 🙂 Tell the person/people who told you this info. that ‘Catholic’ means ‘all-embracing’ - this title is about as Christian as it gets! 👍
When did people start talking about Catholic meaning all-embracing? Goodness. I think many would disagree with you - those who are divorced and remarried, married gay and lesbians, non-Romans who are refused the Sacrament at the altar, women who are ordained priests or who are waiting to be ordained priests, politically liberal persons who support abortion and other women’s health rights, theologians like Teilard de Chardin and Matthew Fox.

All-embracing? Hmmm.
 
Hi again. 👍 I see. I’d tend to disagree. Because of Baptism, we can be bad Catholics, and so bad Christians, but we are still Catholic Christians even when bad ones. When we are sinning, we are sinful Catholic Christians, and if we lapse, we are lapsed Catholics (Catholic Christians). If we are excommunicated Catholic Christians, we are excommunicated Catholic Christians. I think, officially, I’m correct in thinking this. But don’t quote me on it.
This sounds amazingly like OSAS which by the way I do not subscribe to even though I am a Protestant (I do not like this term.)
 
When did people start talking about Catholic meaning all-embracing? Goodness. I think many would disagree with you - those who are divorced and remarried, married gay and lesbians, non-Romans who are refused the Sacrament at the altar, women who are ordained priests or who are waiting to be ordained priests, politically liberal persons who support abortion and other women’s health rights, theologians like Teilard de Chardin and Matthew Fox.

All-embracing? Hmmm.
I feel like you are attacking us Catholics. Please refrain from doing that I’m not politically conservative or liberal I am Catholic. In fact I was reading Rerum Novarum earlier. Please do not try to pigeonhole Christ’s Church using political terminology
 
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