Why do we call priests "Father"????

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Why do we call priests “Father”???

Is there some scriptural references for this? Or does it originate from sacred tradition? If so, then how did that get started and by what basis?

I’m still learning about my faith, and I can see how protestants would be confused by us referring to priests in the same supposed manner as “God the Father”.

I love the church and try to be obedient. But I want to be well informed so I can defend my faith.

Thanks!!!

Kenny
 
Not only is there nothing bad or wrong, as Rob states, but Protestants themselves called their ministers “Father” (and women leaders “Mother”) until the Irish usage of the term for Catholic priests made them do otherwise. Karl Keating had an interesting e-letter about this not too long ago—here it is:

catholic.com/newsletters/kke_050906.asp
 
Ken:

**Think about it? Wouldn’t you address your father as “Father”? Priests are our Fathers in Christ. They are our Spiritual Fathers because they feed us spiritually, teach us, and guide us. We also address the Pope as “Holy Father.” Not because he is God. Ofcourse, he’s not God. We say “Holy” because think about it, his ministry is Holy. We say “Father” because he’s our spiritual father in Christ. **

Now, God the Father is so great that he has many titles. Some say, “Eternal Father” (as in the Divine Mercy Chaplet), some say “Father Yaweh.” And yes some also say “Holy Father.” Some also simply say “Father.” What ever the title, obviously the intention is to honor him above all. Our words are not that important, it is our spiritual communication with God that is important. I personnally like to use “Eternal Father Yahweh” because there is only one eternal father and also I like to mention his biblical name: "Yahweh."

Please read the above Catholic links that were posted by the others.


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Thanks!!

Great resources. I’ve put them in my “favorites” for my internet.

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Kenny
 
Ken, you’ll especially be interested in Karl Keating’s letter showing the history behind calling preachers Father (Yes, preachers!).
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                        Dear Friend of Catholic Answers:
Every Catholic apologist has had Matthew 23:9 thrown at him: “And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven” (King James Version).

“See!” says the Fundamentalist or Evangelical. “This means you shouldn’t call priests ‘Father.’ It’s against the Bible.”

Catholics and Protestants alike have worked on the assumption that opposition to the title “Father” has been part of the Protestant position from the beginning of the Reformation. Not so. It turns out that not so long ago Protestants used to call their own clergymen “Father”–and their clergywomen “Mother.”

My colleague Peggy Frye, one of Catholic Answers’ staff apologists, brought to my attention an article written for “The Christian Century” in 1985. The article is titled “Are ‘Mother’ and ‘Father’ Appropriate Titles for Protestant Clergy?” The author is David L. Holmes, who teaches in the religious studies department at the College of William and Mary.
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                        You can find his article at:
                        [www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=1916](http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=1916)
Holmes was prompted to write by the then-new intrusion of female priests into the Episcopal Church. How should such women be titled? For many years the male clergy in the high-church wing of that denomination commonly had used the title “Father.” Holmes quotes writers who argued that the appropriate title for newly-ordained female priests should be “Mother,” to keep the usage in parallel.

He backs up this suggestion by noting that until the nineteenth century it was common for Protestant clergy, whether male or female, to use titles that nowadays are pretty much restricted to Catholics. We use “Father” when referring to priests and “Mother” when referring to heads of women’s religious orders. It turns out that Protestants used to do much the same.

Holmes noted that in the early years of our country, “Father” was a term of respect given to older men, including clergy. “Congregationalists, Baptists, Methodists, and German Reformed commonly addressed older ministers as ‘Father’ well into the nineteenth century.”

The title also was given to younger ministers who “served as spiritual fathers.” “Herman Melville, for example, based his character Father Mapple–the whaleman-chaplain in ‘Moby Dick’–on Father Edward Thompson Taylor, the Methodist pastor of Boston’s Seamen’s Bethel.”

John Wesley, the founder of Methodism, was known not only as “Mr. Wesley” but also as “Father Wesley,” and “the Shakers called their matriarch ‘Mother’ and their male leaders ‘Father.’”

Mary Baker Eddy, the foundress of the Christian Science Church, was known as “Mother Eddy.” Likewise for the foundress of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church, Ellen Gould White, who was called “Mother White.”

(Cont.)
 
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Holmes goes on to say, in surveying early American usage, that “if calling clergy ‘Father’ had violated biblical norms, the Christian Church and Disciples of Christ surely would have opposed it, for these groups were formed in an attempt to restore not only the doctrine and practices of primitive Christianity, but also its very nomenclature.”

Those denominations said that using “reverend” or “doctor” for clergy was unscriptural, but Holmes says that the founders of these churches used “Father” “for their own clergy as well as for each other. And none of the movement’s opponents ever seemed to exploit a contradiction in the movement’s use of ‘Father’ as a clerical title. They apparently saw no contradiction.”

But by the middle of the nineteenth century these usages began to disappear. “By the 1920s only Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and some Episcopal clergy and nuns were being addressed as ‘Father’ or ‘Mother.’”

Why the change? The blame lies with the Irish, says Holmes. Until the great wave of Irish immigration in the 1840s, most Catholic priests in America were addressed as “Mister,” “Monsieur,” or “Don,” not “Father.” This was the Continental usage. The title “Father” was restricted to monks, and few priests in America were monks.

But the Irish had a different custom. They referred to all priests, whether religious or secular (that is, monastic or diocesan) as “Father.” By the late nineteenth century “the Irish had influenced English-speaking Roman Catholicism to call every priest ‘Father.’”

This bothered Protestants. So long as Catholic priests had been called “Mister,” Protestants were comfortable calling their ministers “Father.” But when Catholics changed their usage, Protestants, in order to distinguish their position from “priestcraft” and “popery,” changed their usage too.

Matthew 23:9 now began to be used in a polemical sense. Protestants discovered in it a warning against the Catholic usage, a warning they had not seen when their own clergy were titled “Father.”

“As more and more Irish Catholic priests moved into the United States, Protestants began to assert that ‘Father’ was unbiblical,” says Holmes. “The literalist interpretation of Matthew 23:9 became a standard weapon in the arsenal of anti-Catholicism. … As a result of this reaction, the twentieth century brought generations of American Protestants who knew nothing of ministers addressed as ‘Father.’”

I look forward to using this information the next time a Fundamentalist or Evangelical refers to Matthew 23:9. It should make for an interesting discussion.

Until next time,

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Notworthy
 
Jesus calls the disciples as ‘children’ on atleast two occasions - at The Last Supper , after Judas has left and again after the Resurrection , when He has prepared them breakfast !

When Philip pleads with Him ,‘show us The Father’ , His words - ‘if you have seen Me, you have seen The Father’ …

We had lost the Father relationship in The Garden where Adam refused to defend The Father( when the serpent implied The Father as liar!) ; our Father hunger that started there , is fulfilled by The Father Love of The Lord who feeds us …

St. John , as the youngest of the disciples probably related the best to this Father love and hence ‘the beloved’ …

Every priest, who represents this Father role in the suprenatuaral sense also would carry this identity , it would seem , to be the best of their role !
 
etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/kjv2www?specfile=%2Ftexts%2Fenglish%2Freligion%2Fkjv%2Fkjv-pub.o2w&query=Father+Abraham&docs=text&sample=1-100&grouping=work

(“Father Abraham”)… I don’t think Abraham was literally the Father of any of the New Testament writers…

Saint Paul…

1 Cor. 4:17
For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.
Timothy was not literally Paul’s son.

1 Cor. 4:15
For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
Here Saint Paul speaks of “begetting” (becoming the spiritual father of) his flock.

We must also remember the role a priest takes… when he receives Holy Orders which he received thru Apostolic Succession (laying on of hands which has continuted from the Apostles to priests & bishops today) he literally becomes one of God’s representatives on Earth (Vicarus Christus). When a priest says the words of consecration at Mass, it is not him who “makes” the bread & wine the Body & Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ but God.

Hope this helps… Merry Christmas!
 
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