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followingtheway
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*]Catholicism taught me how to be loyal to Jesus Christ (who is GOD)
*]You can chose your religion now, so they didn’t take away your choice.
*]Lutherans, Anglicans/Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Methodists, Calvinists, Dutched Reformed and so on, all baptize babies, why give Catholicism a bad wrap?
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Tenofovir
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duneman
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well thats like saying baptism was forced upon you. i hear adults today say, no we did not get out child baptised as they want the child to make that decision for themselves later in life… well thats not the idea… they do that for you because you cant make that decision yet… so they protect you…
so Catholic was forced on you /??
so i picture you at your desk when you were six years old , studying all your books on theology, mormonism, koran readings, lutheranism etc. and in background your mom calls you , “get ready for church honey, time to go”… and you saying , darn i have not decided yet which religion to study , they already baptised me when i was a week old, without my permission, really offensive people, how dare they do that
see what i mean???
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well thats like saying baptism was forced upon you. i hear adults today say, no we did not get out child baptised as they want the child to make that decision for themselves later in life… well thats not the idea… they do that for you because you cant make that decision yet… so they protect you…
so Catholic was forced on you /??
so i picture you at your desk when you were six years old , studying all your books on theology, mormonism, koran readings, lutheranism etc. and in background your mom calls you , “get ready for church honey, time to go”… and you saying , darn i have not decided yet which religion to study , they already baptised me when i was a week old, without my permission, really offensive people, how dare they do that
see what i mean???
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cerad2
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Exactly. Which is why parents should wait until their kids are old enough for themselves to decide which invisible sky creature they want to believe in.
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CourtAdvocate
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My point about my childhood is I had no choice — so you are telling me my freedom to choose Catholicism did not matter, according to the adult who made the choice for me instead of it being my choice???
My intention was to state my experience, not give Catholicism a bad wrap — if other young kids had a choice I did not have, good for them. Christ was never about forcing someone to believe in him or be a follower.
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followingtheway
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My bad“Dutched” and Reformed at the same time. Poor people
DUTCH ReformedYou’ll find that in a religions, not just Catholicism.
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Anna_Scott
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Hello, MelaniHi everybody! I’m new here and my name is Melani, I’m sixteen years old, and I have grown up in a Christian household since the day I was born. For six months I have been dating a Catholic boy, who has brought my attention to many interesting things about Catholicism that I would like to further discuss on here!
Considering that I am not Catholic, my boyfriend and I like to have discussions about the differences between Catholicism and Protestantism. I have a close friend of mine that is a non-denominational Christian that seems to be just so bitter towards Catholicism. Now, as 1 Corinthians 16:14 states, “Do everything in love.” I feel as though many Protestants condemn the Catholics (and I also feel that Catholics do the same to Protestants at time) and I have always wondered, what for? Was it something that happened when people broke away from the Catholic church? Is it because of Luther’s teachings?
I, for one, am very understanding and respectful to the Catholic church - I really like it! My sister-in-law is Catholic, while my sister and brother-in-law are slowly converting to Orthodoxy. Personally, I feel as though one day I could possibly convert to Catholicism, but in order to do so I must learn a lot first. Maybe it’s just me, but often I feel as though there is a certain bitterness to it all. What’s in the way of feeling loving and accepting our brothers and sisters in Christ??
God bless and many smiles to you
Melani
I’m always so delighted to see young people engage in discussion here. CAF is a great forum. Most Catholics are very helpful, post with charity, and will welcome you with open arms.
As for your question about accepting our brothers and sisters in Christ: sadly, there is a surprising amount of ant-Catholic rhetoric, much of which originates in the pulpits of some Protestant Churches. However, many who are so against Catholicism don’t really understand what Catholics actually believe. Some anti-Catholic websites say Catholics worship Mary, believe in a works salvation, etc. They misunderstand the Catholic faith. So, they are against what they believe to be Catholic.
One thing that might be helpful is to start threads on specific issues and explore them one at a time. Questions regarding the Sacraments are a great place to start.
For example, you could start a thread entitled:
“What is the Catholic view of Baptism and why are infants baptized?”
“What is the Catholic view of the Real Presence in The Lord’s Supper?”
These should keep you busy for awhile.
Peace and prayers for you on your journey,
Anna
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Swiss_Guy
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Well, since you don’t have a religion, of course you’d think that. But why should anyone deny a child the priceless gift of Baptism which gives them eternal life when the parents promise to raise their children in the Catholic faith? From a Catholic perspective, it doesn’t make sense to wait and have their kids choose a false religion.
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Swiss_Guy
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Christ is giving you a priceless gift in Baptism to incorporate you into the Church. It would be bad for a parent or person to deny you salvation so you can choose.
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Anna_Scott
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CourtAdvocate,
Would you clarify your point. Are you saying you are against a Baptism, in which there is no choice, such as infant Baptism?
Peace,
Anna
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James_Miller
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We must love our brothers and sisters but refuse any errors they hold.
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hn160
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I am “Dutched” ( Pennsylvania German } and Lutheran but I don’t condemn the Roman Catholic Church but I believe that they are wrong in some of their beliefs when compared to Lutheran beliefs. That said, I give thanks that they believe that Christ’s Body and Blood is in the bread and wine.“Dutched” and Reformed at the same time. Poor people
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Anna_Scott
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hn160,I am “Dutched” ( Pennsylvania German } and Lutheran but I don’t condemn the Roman Catholic Church but I believe that they are wrong in some of their beliefs when compared to Lutheran beliefs. That said, I give thanks that they believe that Christ’s Body and Blood is in the bread and wine.
I respect your appreciation of shared beliefs. Catholics, Anglicans, Lutherans, etc. are not really that far apart on the major issues.
Peace,
Anna
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Tenofovir
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But you’re German and not Nederlands. Unless you’ve been “made Dutch”.I am “Dutched” ( Pennsylvania German } and Lutheran but I don’t condemn the Roman Catholic Church but I believe that they are wrong in some of their beliefs when compared to Lutheran beliefs. That said, I give thanks that they believe that Christ’s Body and Blood is in the bread and wine.
One of the main Protestant churches here in SA, is the Dutch Reformed Church. It was run by Dutch settlers although Germans and French Huguenots also joined in later.
(Don’t be offended by my remark earlier. I just found the “DUTCHed” bit funny.)
The Dutch are good people although these days some of them experiment with euthanasia and abortion. Sigh.
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momfromwi
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In Wisconsin, where I live, about 80% of residents who have a religious affiliation are Protestant. Lutherans are the largest Protestant group in the state, with about 25% of Protestants being Lutheran. Catholics make up about 30% of the religious population here, so Lutherans and Catholics are pretty much equal in population (which is why my dad was Catholic and my mom Lutheran )
My mom’s Lutheran church and a neighboring Catholic church sometimes hold events together - not sure what they are, I’ll have to find out. I do feel a friendliness and acceptance among the two churches here in Wisconsin. I think the German (Lutheran) and Polish (Catholic) cultures immigrating here and then merging together (Milwaukee area) may have something to do with it.
My mom always participated in the Eucharist if we would go to mass, and the priests never said anything, even though they knew she wasn’t Catholic.
I now live in a different part of the state, and there is a definite separation between the two churches. Even though I wanted to become Catholic, joining a parish was uncomfortable - wasn’t as welcoming as the ones in Milwaukee were.
)My mom’s Lutheran church and a neighboring Catholic church sometimes hold events together - not sure what they are, I’ll have to find out. I do feel a friendliness and acceptance among the two churches here in Wisconsin. I think the German (Lutheran) and Polish (Catholic) cultures immigrating here and then merging together (Milwaukee area) may have something to do with it.
My mom always participated in the Eucharist if we would go to mass, and the priests never said anything, even though they knew she wasn’t Catholic.
I now live in a different part of the state, and there is a definite separation between the two churches. Even though I wanted to become Catholic, joining a parish was uncomfortable - wasn’t as welcoming as the ones in Milwaukee were.
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Tenofovir
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Poland was never very big on religious persecution. Protestants, Jews, even Tartar Muslims settled in various parts to escape religious persecution and were given official protection by the Catholic king.
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Swiss_Guy
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Your math isn’t adding up. 80+30=110. I’d say it’s more like 50% Protestant (1/2 Lutheran), 1/3 Catholic. But close enough, right?In Wisconsin, where I live, about 80% of residents who have a religious affiliation are Protestant. Lutherans are the largest Protestant group in the state, with about 25% of Protestants being Lutheran. Catholics make up about 30% of the religious population here, so Lutherans and Catholics are pretty much equal in population (which is why my dad was Catholic and my mom Lutheran
My mom’s Lutheran church and a neighboring Catholic church sometimes hold events together - not sure what they are, I’ll have to find out. I do feel a friendliness and acceptance among the two churches here in Wisconsin. I think the German (Lutheran) and Polish (Catholic) cultures immigrating here and then merging together (Milwaukee area) may have something to do with it.
My mom always participated in the Eucharist if we would go to mass, and the priests never said anything, even though they knew she wasn’t Catholic.
I now live in a different part of the state, and there is a definite separation between the two churches. Even though I wanted to become Catholic, joining a parish was uncomfortable - wasn’t as welcoming as the ones in Milwaukee were.
But part of the good relations might be that in Germany, Catholics and Lutherans traditionally got along better than in other countries with Protestant/Catholic conflicts. (From my family experience–I’m German and somewhat Scandinavian), Scandinavians are much more anti-Catholic. And in other parts of Wisconsin, Lutheran churches have more of a Scandinavian history rather than a German one.
Oh, to someday live in Milwaukee.
It’s a great city.
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momfromwi
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Swiss,
You are right - my math is awful! Doesn’t help that I have a 5-year old tugging on me as I try to type something
Bottom line is, the Catholic church has the most members in WI, followed by the Lutheran church.
I agree with what you say about the German and Scandinavian relationships with the Catholic church, makes sense.
You are right - my math is awful! Doesn’t help that I have a 5-year old tugging on me as I try to type something
Bottom line is, the Catholic church has the most members in WI, followed by the Lutheran church.
I agree with what you say about the German and Scandinavian relationships with the Catholic church, makes sense.
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