Why do women have abortions?

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I did it because…
I believed the pregnancy was dangerous to my health, a notion my mother had drummed into my head.
I didn’t know an abortion was more dangerous to my health.
I was sick and tired and poor and car-less and felt helpless to walk away and decide for myself.
I listened as people talked about how I should abort and how foolish it would be not to and I felt defensive and bewildered.
I thought they would return in different bodies and be happier in the long run.
I had been raised in a society that called abortion a medical operation, taking responsibility, and controlling your body. I knew what it really was but the societal attitude that it was right and that not to abort was wrong got to me.
I was fully convinced no one wanted me or my babies, except me, and I no longer saw myself as counting for anything.
I was given an ultimatum: make the call to the clinic by such-a-time-such-and-such-a-date or face probable death by some mysterious thing that was supposed to be wrong with my pregnancy some unknown time in the following months. I didn’t know whether to believe it but on the deadline day as the hours passed I felt more and more scared to get “in trouble” for letting the hour pass. I finally decided that giving in to the pressure was “obedient” and “responsible”.:hypno:
It was early in the morning when my mother drove me there. I was not totally awake and my thought patterns were like a child’s.
A nurse or whatever she was gave me drugs.
My mother held my hand.
I struggled to figure out what I was thinking and how to do something, to stop this, to find the words that would get me out of it or the thoughts that would make it not wrong, as the drugs slowed my mind down more.
It was too late.
If I could go back in time I would walk out the door and never look back if that would be what it took to have my kids. I would live on the street with them if that was what I would have to do.
 
I seriously cannot understand why someone would have an abortion. I can’t fathom even wanting one. This has nothing to do with it being a sin. I just can’t imagine considering one. I know IVF isn’t considered morally permissable, but I can understand 100% why people undergo it, and I would definitely be tempted. I can even understand why married women use birth control. Those are things I had to be told were sinful, but having an abortion just goes without saying. It would be like shooting my dog. It just wouldn’t cross my mind that it’s something I might want to consider. It doesn’t matter how difficult the situation is. There are always other options. Adoption seems like such a beautiful thing anyway.
 
I didn’t think this would ever happen in my country…

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Sadly, I was wrong…

How can people think this way about children? It is not the “right” of a human being to have choice over the life or death of another human being, Born or not.

Being “born” does NOT make you a Human being… Conception does… Conception is when all the ingredients are mixed together and all the “parts” have been combined into a whole.

Why is it other societies in other countries in the middle east can see this, and we in the west struggle to grasp this basic truth? A human being can survive outside the womb after 18 Weeks!
 
I would like to know what the other major religions generally believe about Abortion. Especially Judaism, Islam and Fundamentalist Protestantism.

Protestantism doesn’t in it’s more softer or less fundamental parts, uphold it as an outright violation of God’s Laws, I know this. But what about the other religions?
 
Lord, in this life we have many crosses to bear. There are many situations that bring a quiver to my voice, and a fearful tremble to my hands. Fear can not grip me nor can it hold me back, or lead me to a compromise. Yet the truth is written on my heart. How can another innocent life be gone, killed before her time. Just another number to be counted as the list goes on. The heavy and deep pain that God feels consumes an entire being. His tears soak the hearts and souls of many.

Though life is precious, pure and holy, for the unborn, there exists those who would merciless kill. It has become dangerously cruel and gory as their blood is shed everyday lying at the mercy of unfeeling hands. As I balance between the invisible line, hesitation is felt on the edge, that which separates life from death. Hidden in the secret of a mother’s womb, are innocent souls who deserve a chance to live as we do. These little souls are fragile like the petals of a rose so soft with dew, a quiet splendor of nature is created. A beauty so pure and white, from the deep silent ground blossoming through the snow. Who would crush this little rose? Who would dare to extinguish life, as if to brutally destroy it by a knife. Dreadful is the frost that kills the rose and wicked are the evil seeds that abortion sows. The secret in the mother’s womb has now become a chamber for execution. Sentencing herself of this crime, the former mother- to- be is left alone. The sterile sheet draped around her conceals the grave which now accommodates her baby.

All unborn children are sacred and human, and they deserve a chance to live as we do. When I serve the Lord in the face of this “heartless slaughter”, my heart beats with courageous determination. I fall to my knees and pray that their innocent lives be spared. Please Lord, open the hearts of all pregnant women and men considering an abortion and all who are for abortion to help them make the choice that is accordance to your will all life is to be respected especially that of an unborn child. As we would shield the rose from being torn, we must commit our lives to saving the unborn.

It is time to join the army and use the greatest weapon of all. Love can conquer sin, and heal all open wounds. Love removes all the fear we may feel on the front lines. With God’s love in us, our hands remain steady and our voices strong. As human beings we make mistakes, and are sorry for them. Most likely they are easily put aside. Yet sometimes our convictions go against your will, such as taking the life of an unborn child. Every broken-hearted, hurting woman needs to feel the love of Christ. They need us to be there. For this reason, we ask you, dear God, to help keep us be chaste in mind, soul, and body. To be chaste in mind, is to be chaste in thought. To be chaste in soul, is to be chaste in heart. To be chaste in body, is to be chaste in our daily actions actions towards others and ourselves. Though society condones the terrible act of abortion, it goes against the moral values that are close to our hearts.
 
st_lucy said:
Here are some stats. It looks like abortion has steadily been declining.
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Statistics on abortions are no longer reliable.

First of all, most birth control pills prescribed now include abortifacients. There is no way to report the number of unborn babies killed by chemical abortion shortly after they are conceived.

As for surgical abortions, I know that my state does not require that surgical abortions be reported for statistical purposes. They’re not even listed as “abortions” and are listed as D&Cs in the medical charts, not differentiated by non-abortion D&Cs. I do not know how many other states don’t require that this data be collected. It is because of abortion proponents such as Planned Parenthood that we continue to be deceived like this.
 
strngrnrth said:
I did it because…
I believed the pregnancy was dangerous to my health, a notion my mother had drummed into my head.
I didn’t know an abortion was more dangerous to my health.
I was sick and tired and poor and car-less and felt helpless to walk away and decide for myself.
I listened as people talked about how I should abort and how foolish it would be not to and I felt defensive and bewildered.
I thought they would return in different bodies and be happier in the long run.
I had been raised in a society that called abortion a medical operation, taking responsibility, and controlling your body. I knew what it really was but the societal attitude that it was right and that not to abort was wrong got to me.
I was fully convinced no one wanted me or my babies, except me, and I no longer saw myself as counting for anything.
I was given an ultimatum: make the call to the clinic by such-a-time-such-and-such-a-date or face probable death by some mysterious thing that was supposed to be wrong with my pregnancy some unknown time in the following months. I didn’t know whether to believe it but on the deadline day as the hours passed I felt more and more scared to get “in trouble” for letting the hour pass. I finally decided that giving in to the pressure was “obedient” and “responsible”.:hypno:
It was early in the morning when my mother drove me there. I was not totally awake and my thought patterns were like a child’s.
A nurse or whatever she was gave me drugs.
My mother held my hand.
I struggled to figure out what I was thinking and how to do something, to stop this, to find the words that would get me out of it or the thoughts that would make it not wrong, as the drugs slowed my mind down more.
It was too late.
If I could go back in time I would walk out the door and never look back if that would be what it took to have my kids. I would live on the street with them if that was what I would have to do.
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Thank you strnghrgh. I see now why you were able to empathize with me. By the mercy of God, we will be with our babies someday.:console:
 
quiet52 said:
Statistics on abortions are no longer reliable.

First of all, most birth control pills prescribed now include abortifacients. There is no way to report the number of unborn babies killed by chemical abortion shortly after they are conceived.

As for surgical abortions, I know that my state does not require that surgical abortions be reported for statistical purposes. They’re not even listed as “abortions” and are listed as D&Cs in the medical charts, not differentiated by non-abortion D&Cs. I do not know how many other states don’t require that this data be collected. It is because of abortion proponents such as Planned Parenthood that we continue to be deceived like this.
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Thank you for pointing this our. This has always been my thought as well. We can never trust PP to give accurate stats on what it is their mills are doing.

I sometimes get a chill when I think how much Sanger has accomplished in her dream of getting rid of the undesirable. She has far surpassed her mentor Hitler. It makes me so sad.
 
Isambard said:
Same reason why I choose to “kill” the sickly by refusing to be an organ donner.
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Sorry but this actually doesn’t make sense at all. You can’t intentionally kill someone inadvertantly or indirectly like that. You do not “Kill” organ doners in the same manner as what occurs in Abortion because you do not actually have delibrate and intentional Malice toward them, so you CANNOT have meliciously delibratly killed them by your action or choice. You kill them by your inaction, but you do NOT kill them by delibrate Malice.

Your example is Just like I “kill” people by not campaining against Mcdonalds even though I know it’s horrible food, thus allowing people to have massive Heart Attacks! hehehe!

It is not out of delibrate and intentionally direct malice, it’s out of “inaction” or “not having the time”. I do not want their death though a direct violent malicious process, but I am somewhat responsible because I did not have the time nor the will to respond. .

In abortion, there is clearly delibrate and selfish direct personal malice, akin to Manslaughter and Negligent murder. The person wants the Child to delibratly be put to direct death right in front of them(or inside of them). They personally know the child and do NOT wish the child wellbeing at all.
 
The so called 'feminist’movement was founded by men! The basic thrust being…lets let em feel depressed,deprived and deeply indepted to us…therefor we can then control them and get them to do what used to be thought of as unspeakable …ie killing their own developing baby and feeling justified even proud…And so Satan and his wagging tail started a campaign of attacking men and convincing women that they have been victims too long and its now time to act…First ,women have been exploited before…and as with all errors,some truth is in the ingredients…and so we have the novel use of the word ‘choice’…we downtroden sisters have been forced to do things for centuries against our will,now its choice…only we can have children and if we ‘choose’ we wont.take that you …men!!! (said with bitter mean tones…brrrrrr) and so the very same men have a great deal now…knock up the gal and in the old tyrannical days you would have had to marry her or pay for the kid etc.now she has an abortion and feels proud about it…man these chicks are dumb. We are using them more then ever…notice how close we came with Hillary and Bubba…under noraml outdated circumstances a wife and mother would have tossed ole Bill and his stained carpet out into the street…no more…now she just stands and smiles and holds his hand and is applauded for being made a fool of by her wayward hubby…we have won…now if we can only legalize child porn…convince the boobs it will satisfy the pervs and reduce child abuse…I know I know thats kinda far out…but they are more and more like Pavlovs mutts tho in the way they get so conditioned…
 
The funny thing is when Women ran the Households in ancient times, they had far far more power and influence then they have today. They owned/managed the properties, mastered the Slaves(in roman times), looked after the finances and took care of the children. This was because Men travelled much more than Women and they were left in charge. Plus of cause they really influenced the Male decision making process for obvious reasons.

Choice does not always bring happyness. It can sometimes be a double edged sword. Our choices can hurt others and we may not realise it, but they can also hurt ourselves. We need to understand this more fully.
 
colliric said:
Sorry but this actually doesn’t make sense at all. You can’t intentionally kill someone inadvertantly or indirectly like that. You do not “Kill” organ doners in the same manner as what occurs in Abortion because you do not actually have delibrate and intentional Malice toward them, so you CANNOT have meliciously delibratly killed them by your action or choice. You kill them by your inaction, but you do NOT kill them by delibrate Malice.
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You don’t kill the fetus maliciously thru abortion either. Only thru denying the fetus access to your body. Ditto for me not donating my organs.
colliric said:
Your example is Just like I “kill” people by not campaining against Mcdonalds even though I know it’s horrible food, thus allowing people to have massive Heart Attacks! hehehe!
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Not at all. Your McDonald’s example involves choice on the part of the person having the heart attack.

For both people needing organs, and fetuses, its luck of the draw for them. You cant choose to be conceived and most people don’t choose to need organs.
colliric said:
It is not out of delibrate and intentionally direct malice, it’s out of “inaction” or “not having the time”. I do not want their death though a direct violent malicious process, but I am somewhat responsible because I did not have the time nor the will to respond.
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Ah, how about a helping hand then? Would you be fine with a government program to harvest your organs, and mandatory donation of blood and bone marrow?
colliric said:
In abortion, there is clearly delibrate and selfish direct personal malice, akin to Manslaughter and Negligent murder. The person wants the Child to delibratly be put to direct death right in front of them(or inside of them). They personally know the child and do NOT wish the child wellbeing at all.
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Umm no. They simply wish to stop granting access of their body. Its really the same as stopping access of one’s body to a parasitic twin, or if while under the knife, doctors hooked your liver up to someone else’s circulatory system w/o your consent. This is doubly true among women who have been raped and become pregnant.
 
Isambard said:
You don’t kill the fetus maliciously thru abortion either. Only thru denying the fetus access to your body. Ditto for me not donating my organs.
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The baby is growing where it is intended to grow. By “denying access” one is directly intending death.
Umm no. They simply wish to stop granting access of their body. Its really the same as stopping access of one’s body to a parasitic twin, or if while under the knife, doctors hooked your liver up to someone else’s circulatory system w/o your consent. This is doubly true among women who have been raped and become pregnant.
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The baby is growing as intended. They are not the property of the mother.
 
fix said:
The baby is growing where it is intended to grow. By “denying access” one is directly intending death.
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So you’re in favour of mandatory organ harvesting?
fix said:
The baby is growing as intended. They are not the property of the mother.
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No, but the blood, oxygen, and nutrients being pumped into the fetus are.
 
Isambard said:
Umm no. They simply wish to stop granting access of their body. Its really the same as stopping access of one’s body to a parasitic twin, or if while under the knife, doctors hooked your liver up to someone else’s circulatory system w/o your consent. This is doubly true among women who have been raped and become pregnant.
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Umm where in there where do you get the idea that a baby growing in his mothers tummy is a parasitic twin? You are aware that this “parasitic twin” has his own DNA separate from his mothers and unlike any other in the world.

Do yourself a favor and brush up on your elementary science.
 
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