Why do you care?

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Strength:
Whoooaa… I posted a question on a forum…what in the world is your problem?.. I ask a legitimate question regarding why fellow christians argue over tenets…and you call me circular in my responses and then you want to ask me why I care? You sound manipulative and angry.
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You sure enjoy labeling us as “angry”, you did so in your original post, asking us “why are we so angry?” Nobody is getting angry with you…try not to be so sensitive for heavens sake! You are obviously hyper sensitive to what you perceive to be “anger”, but is actaully nothing of the sort.

You come on here asking why we are so angry and when we respond to your ignorant question you point the finger and say, " ah ha! your being agry again!", but of course we are the manipulative ones! If this is your idea of a legitimate question then its no wonder you don’t understand the difference between a strong position and anger.
 
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Strength:
Hateful, offensive Christians knock on my door…leave pamphlets on my car, try to dictate domestic policy, foreign policy, control over my body, give long ugly speeches at the dinner table, tell me I’m going to hell, censor my music, call me a left wing sinner etc…etc… SO since all of you want to help me…I thought I would in turn try to help you…I’m just a missionary…and I have my own book of gospels…

How does it feel???
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Christianity does not dictate these things, the dictator is truth and common sense.

The law of non-contradiction states: a cannot be* a* and non-a at the same time and in the same sense.

Therefore a and non *a *cannot exist at the same time and in the same sense.

peace
 
Sarcasm lost in translation
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martino:
You sure enjoy labeling us as “angry”, you did so in your original post, asking us “why are we so angry?” Nobody is getting angry with you…try not to be so sensitive for heavens sake! You are obviously hyper sensitive to what you perceive to be “anger”, but is actaully nothing of the sort.

You come on here asking why we are so angry and when we respond to your ignorant question you point the finger and say, " ah ha! your being agry again!", but of course we are the manipulative ones! If this is your idea of a legitimate question then its no wonder you don’t understand the difference between a strong position and anger.
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Strength:
Hateful, offensive Christians knock on my door…leave pamphlets on my car, try to dictate domestic policy, foreign policy, control over my body, give long ugly speeches at the dinner table, tell me I’m going to hell, censor my music, call me a left wing sinner etc…etc… SO since all of you want to help me…I thought I would in turn try to help you…I’m just a missionary…and I have my own book of gospels…

How does it feel???
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OK! I think we are all getting an idea on who is angry around here! It was only a matter of time…I dont know how you held it in for as long as you did to tell you the truth.

By the way, I thought I was the only one that tried to sneak Bob Dylan quotes into my posts! I have to compliment you on that one part! 🙂
 
In reading the last of Strength’s posts, I get the impression s/he is very hurt and angry. I don’t think that it is appropriate for him/ her to vent this in the forums, but I also don’t think that we should turn around and emulate bad behavior ourselves, and the longer this goes on the more likely it is that emotions might simply boil over, his/hers or someone else’s.

Perhaps if we simply “let go and let God” with this, it would be for the best. On thinking it over, I don’t believe Strength wants to be convinced (right now, anyway) that there is any other POV but his/ hers, and I fear s/he will just go on and on and perhaps unwittingly “go too far”. Emotions can bring out good and bad in people. I would rather quietly let this thread die, and say an extra rosary tonight for strength to open him/ herself to God’s love and grace.
 
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Strength:
Hateful, offensive Christians knock on my door…leave pamphlets on my car, try to dictate domestic policy, foreign policy, control over my body, give long ugly speeches at the dinner table, tell me I’m going to hell, censor my music, call me a left wing sinner etc…etc… SO since all of you want to help me…I thought I would in turn try to help you…I’m just a missionary…and I have my own book of gospels…

How does it feel???
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Sounds more like you have a axe to grind. All 8 or 9 of the threads you’ve started are similar in that you ask some question out of curiosity that sounds innocent but is “loaded.”

If you really want to know why I do this. That’s simple, I enjoy the discussion and the fellowship. I’ve met some nice people who know their faith and share my values. I like communicating with them. And in the end, the other Christians I disagree with are still brothers and sisters in Christ. I like that, discussing and disagreeing and still caring about one another. It’s good stuff.
 
I got the impression that instead of validating the worthwhile merits of arguing over whether or not purgatory existed for instance you basically hopped on the relativistic bandwagon (and yes the moral absolute vs. relativism argument is a sham anyway) which I in turn assumed that you were indeed “assuming” - since I thought hair splitting was a waste of time in regards to religion, that I was somehow this morally lacking sinner…why else would you go to such trouble? What are the implications? If I assumed wrong then I stand corrected…but fail to see the relation to my original post.
Tantum ergo:
A lot of assumptions made on your part, strength, and you know what happens when you attempt to assume, don’t you?

I’m heading home, but I would love to come back tomorrow and see just how you got the following ( from my post.

I respectfully request that you actually address what I say, instead of attempting to pocket psychoanalyze me (incorrectly), or “interpret” what you think I said, and tangentially veer into addressing the “interpretation” instead of the real thing?

And since when did “morality existing before Jesus” (wrong again, the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity was begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father, and through Him all things were made–i.e., He pre-existed morality, my friend) enter into the equation? After all, I never said that there were no “moral people” before the Incarnation, did I? So why make up some assertion out of whole cloth? Please address what I really said–let’s say tomorrow, about 10 a.m. eastern. PM me if I’m not on the board by 10:30, in case meetings or some other crises distract me.

God bless.
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Angry men don’t post with smiles on their faces…I’ll tell you a trend I’ve picked up on in this forum…no one can really address my original questions and then leave it alone…I don’t think I was argumentative in my initial post…I simply asked questions…
 
That’s a leap…( if I take off the “what angers you so” will that change the whole theme of this thread?) I’ll do it if it helps everyone.
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martino:
Your original premise was that we are angry…I am not buying your sarcasm bit.
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Strength:
…no one can really address my original questions and then leave it alone…
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I gave you a simple answer that many others likely share.
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JimO:
If you really want to know why I do this. That’s simple, I enjoy the discussion and the fellowship. I’ve met some nice people who know their faith and share my values. I like communicating with them. And in the end, the other Christians I disagree with are still brothers and sisters in Christ. I like that, discussing and disagreeing and still caring about one another. It’s good stuff.
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Strength:
Angry men don’t post with smiles on their faces…I’ll tell you a trend I’ve picked up on in this forum…no one can really address my original questions and then leave it alone…I don’t think I was argumentative in my initial post…I simply asked questions…
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I tried to in post #25.
 
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Strength:
That’s a leap…( if I take off the “what angers you so” will that change the whole theme of this thread?) I’ll do it if it helps everyone.
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It would definitely change the tone of it, that is for sure. But I do not need any help, I think I understand exactly what you are saying…I just dont agree with it.

Maybe you dont mind us defending our faith on a Catholic forum as long as we dont vigorously defend it. You see this as anger somehow and you want to call us on it…the only problem is that between us and you…you are the angry one and by a long shot.
 
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Strength:
That’s a leap…( if I take off the “what angers you so” will that change the whole theme of this thread?) I’ll do it if it helps everyone.
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It makes no difference to me since I never addressed that question but dealt with things I thought more in need of commenting upon. I’d like a response to my posts when you have the time, that is. It’s hard when it is you alone trying to answer everyone else’s responses. But, I think you might benefit from a discussion of the things I saw as important misconceptions of yours. At least in understanding why we Catholics will not back down from the truth, but can love those who do not agree with us, you included.
 
Strength,

I will not continue to post on this thread because you seem to be out to pick a fight, not ask innocent questions. I would suggest that all heretofore involved members who agree with me consider following suit. This is not a productive argument, and no real discussion is to be had with this person at this juncture.

I’m getting out before I say something I’ll regret later. See you all on the other forums!

Mary
 
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