Why do you hate Islam?

[sedonaman]

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There is no use you abusing any one.**

How is quoting Mohammed “abusing” him or Islam?

 

[GraceDK]

I don’t hate anyone. I think Chrsitains are disadvantaged when they debate Muslims because they don’t have the luxury of abrogation. Muslims can see yes we recognize Jesus and we respect and revere Jesus and Moses and so on, but now they have been abrogated. Christians don’t have that luxury since Muhammad appeared after Jesus and the Koran attacked the trinity. So they have no choice but to attack Muhammad and try to delegitimize him in any way. Something Muslims don’t have to do. So it appears that Christians are filled with hate. But they are no different than Muslims are.

As far as we koranist are concerned, we don’t believe in abrogation. Though not all, many Koranist, such as myself accept the authority of the Gospel and Torah and all the previous scriptures. Even those Koranist who don’t, they tend to avoid the topic. They have to, the koran is crystal clear about the authority of the OT and the NT. I believe that some Koranist are disturbed with some elements in the OT(if you know what i mean). They say to themselves, my God, this is hadith in steroids. But I obey the Koran, or at least I try to.

The Koran is crystal clear about the Gospel and Torah being the words of God. The Koran spoke of the Gospel and Torah in the same category as the Koran. We all know this.

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If Muslims say something else thats not the Koran’s business. So let the Gospel judge between me and anyone.

Sir. What Islam has is not a privilege but a disadvantage. Your god is the god of abrogations. The Koran comes to say something contradicting the other revelations… so please take the consequence… dont give us some smoothtalk like: “I believe the Bible is from God… but… no I dont believe Jesus is God…” This is just nonsense, okay. Have a logical and consequent approach. The Bible says what it says. If you believe it you dont believe the Koran… I know its a method among Muslims to say: “OH we have sooo much in common… now look at the beauty of Islam…” Its a missionary tool which I find a bit too cheep, sorry.

Our Lord and God is unchangeable. If He were not, then He would not be God. Also, He can inspire and protect His written Revelation ,whereas Islam says that god cannot do that: its said by actual Islam that Judeo-Christian Scriptures in their current form have been falsyfied.
And you must say so as a Muslim, because the God who reveals Himself in Christ in the Holy Bible is totally different in His works, actions and teachings than your god is.

And no, if Muhammed pointed at Jesus Christ, then we would not critizise him because he would be a repentant sinner. Now what Muhammad does is to point at himself and say a heap of lies. No real Christian or Jew believed in him because he was leading an immoral life, didn’t know Jewish or Christian Scripture (His knowlege was very lacking and even wrong at some places in the Koran) and could never perform one miracle…
Because of the cruelty of your prophet we are sad to see that you want to follow immoralty instead of Light and Love.

We say Muhammad is bad because Muhammad appears bad in YOUR OWN authority-scriptures. Deal with that. I can never get one Muslim to say: HECH YES, only a phedofile lowlife has sex with a 12 year old girl.
And until you can all say that I will continue holding that infront of your face because I want to see you in heaven.

 

[dolphinlove]

MDK, there is no revealed truth in bibleNT. It is a work of some unknown men wrote what they thought. Bible is a man made book, said to be inspired. Inspiration is well below a revelation. Inspiration is from the inside of a person. revelation is from outside and above. You have nogood beliefs (news) about a God.

Um, your wrong again planten, the bible IS inspired by God, the quran is inspired by the devil.

**I told you that you do not have any truth about any religion. God revealed Himself to all people of the world through the messengers. jesus was just one of them. A Messenger. A true messenger and the Messiah for the Jews. **

There you go abusing Jesus yet again, he is the Son of God, not a mere prophet. We see Jesus for who really is. When will muslims learn lowering Jesus to mere prophethood is blasphemis?

Don’t worry. You christians had converted many millions to christianity through your planning and effort and massacre during the 14th to 20th century C.E. But it was all wrong.

WRONG! We spread it peacefully, again, shall we go over islams history of how it was spread by muhammad and his mass killings and forced conversions?

Wrong teachings. These were spread successfully all over the world and many were converted to christianity in Afrika and Asia. And you spread your ibles too. But that was the end of your effort because soon the people learnt all about the falsehood of your teachings, they stopped converting and those who had been christians got divided into many sects. Some became atheists too,a nd some JW’s and some Mormons.

Why are there 6 million muslims in Africa alone converting to Christianity, its because they are finally seeing the truth, which is Christianity. They realise how wrong islam actually is, and how it is inspired by the devil

You christians are in the habit of blaming of blaming islam about convert or die. that is all false. If any one wants to see the real face of Catholics and the good example of convert or die, ten that person should see the massacre done by king ferdinand and queen Isabela in Spain.

There is no use you abusing any one.

Planten, go back to take history lessons, you really have no idea.

 

[tomarin]

You are either with Jesus and his teachings or you arent, you cannot worship 2 Gods.
The teachings of islam are clear, and even the muslims have trouble defending some of it, but yet, you admire it…
I dont think you truly understand whatr you are admiring.

This is going to blow your mind, Dolphinlove, but I also admire some aspects of rabbinical Judaism. Does that mean that I worship three gods? No, I only worship God. Each one of these three religions worship the same God, although the other two (Judaism and Islam) do so imperfectly.

I think this is what the Church teaches in her encyclical Nostra Aetate. So I am not only with Jesus I’m with his Church.

 

[Agabriel]

This is going to blow your mind, Dolphinlove, but I also admire some aspects of rabbinical Judaism. Does that mean that I worship three gods? No, I only worship God. Each one of these three religions worship the same God, although the other two (Judaism and Islam) do so imperfectly.

I think this is what the Church teaches in her encyclical Nostra Aetate. So I am not only with Jesus I’m with his Church.

Judaism and Christianity worship the same God, Islam worships a combination of Muhammed/Allah, the Quran and a black stone. With Islam you have to read their texts, and then look at their behaviors. With Muhammed not having a clue as to what the Judeo-Christian God was, he wasn’t able to convey it in his spouts in the Quran.

I don’t know how anyone could come up with anything different unless one is a Muslim desperately trying to convince us that they are a part of the Judeo-Christian religions. Just because there is pressure to accept this, doesn’t make it so.

 

[tomarin]

I don’t know how anyone could come up with anything different unless one is a Muslim desperately trying to convince us that they are a part of the Judeo-Christian religions.

Then how do you explain this excerpt from the papal encyclical Nostra Aetate (emphases mine)?

The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself, merciful and all-powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth (5), who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes great pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. They also honor Mary, His virgin mother; at times they even call on her with devotion. In addition, they await the day of judgement when God will render their deserts to all those who have been raised up from the dead. Finally, they value the moral life and worship God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting.

The hierarchy of the Catholic Church seem to disagree with you. I’m pretty sure they are not secret Muslims.

 

[Agabriel]

Then how do you explain this excerpt from the papal encyclical Nostra Aetate (emphases mine)?

The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself, merciful and all-powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth (5), who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes great pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. They also honor Mary, His virgin mother; at times they even call on her with devotion. In addition, they await the day of judgement when God will render their deserts to all those who have been raised up from the dead. Finally, they value the moral life and worship God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting.

The hierarchy of the Catholic Church seem to disagree with you. I’m pretty sure they are not secret Muslims.

And one thing to remember - it wasn’t made in an ‘infallible’ moment - so it can indeed be disagreed with.

To keep using that as a mind numbing excuse to figure out what Islam really is - just makes Muslims get upset. I don’t care, get upset. Until the behavior of Muslims change - and that goes for the majority that do nothing to stop their terrorists, and start telling the truth about Islam, then I don’t know how anyone can come to any other conclusion.

And I like how you defend such despicable behavior by other Muslims by pointing out some Vatican II thing.

 

[Claire_from_DE]

Then how do you explain this excerpt from the papal encyclical Nostra Aetate (emphases mine)?

The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself, merciful and all-powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth (5), who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes great pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. They also honor Mary, His virgin mother; at times they even call on her with devotion. In addition, they await the day of judgement when God will render their deserts to all those who have been raised up from the dead. Finally, they value the moral life and worship God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting.

The hierarchy of the Catholic Church seem to disagree with you. I’m pretty sure they are not secret Muslims.

These are the beliefs and practices the Muslims have in common with Catholics. We are united, or at least somewhat connected, because of these. It is the differences that cause us problems.

 

[Claire_from_DE]

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You christians are in the habit of blaming of blaming islam about convert or die. that is all false. If any one wants to see the real face of Catholics and the good example of convert or die, ten that person should see the massacre done by king ferdinand and queen Isabela in Spain.
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Wasn’t the war done to drive the invading Moors (Muslims from northern Africa) out of Spain? You really can’t blame the inhabitants of an area for resisting and fighting back. At that time, the invaders were Muslim and the local kings were Catholic. Since Spain wasn’t united at that time, if the Moors had been content with the Spanish areas they had already occupied, there might have been peace. But they continued their northern invasion and were driven out prior to Fernando and Isabel I think. However, those who remained were considered a danger to the state and possible insurrectionists. Only those who had truly converted to Catholicism (not just to be safe) were felt to be loyal to the government.

What massacre are you referring to? If it was the inquisition, that only dealt with those who claimed to be Catholics. The inquisition had no authority over Muslims who had not converted to Catholicism.

 

[sedonaman]

And one thing to remember - it wasn’t made in an ‘infallible’ moment - so it can indeed be disagreed with.

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And I like how you defend such despicable behavior by other Muslims by pointing out some Vatican II thing.

No need to fret. What he quoted was what the Vatican said about Muslims, not Islam. What it is merely saying is that there are lots of Muslims sincerely seeking God, but [implied] that it doesn’t make Islam correct. I haven’t researched it out, but I’m sure that the Vatican is somewhat less positive about Islam itself. Just consider the pope’s comments at Regensburg.

The frustrating thing about this thread, besides getting side-tracked, is that the question, “Why do you hate Islam?” gets immediately interpreted to mean “Why do you hate Muslims?”

 

[7_Sorrows]

i don’t hate Islam. i have studied islam and i have a Koran at my house which i use for reference. i think Islam probably has positive attributes, but also many negative ones.
i am not one to judge whether it is a false religion or not.

i think the extremists have given Islam a bad name - and for good reason.

i pray that someday, these nations that prohibit religions other than Islam, will allow other religions and many will learn about Christianity and realize that it offers the truth through Christ.

 

[sedonaman]

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What massacre are you referring to? If it was the inquisition, that only dealt with those who claimed to be Catholics. The inquisition had no authority over Muslims who had not converted to Catholicism.

You have to remember the Muslim reference point. Islam was born with the idea that it should rule the world. That is the normal state of affairs, and a status short of that is a disorder. Therefore, anyone or anything standing it the way of Islam reaching its goal of world dominion is an “aggressor” and/or is “fighting an aggressive war” against Islam. Even the mere existence of a non-believer is an act of aggression against Islam. This is why Muslims claim they fight only in “defense” of Islam. It’s as though you have to have a different English dictionary in your hand when debating a Muslim.

This is also why they claim that their wars against the Crusaders were defensive in nature, which is laughable when you consider what took place before the Crusades:

609-22 AD – Mohammed preaches in Mecca
622 – Meccans kick Mohammed out, he and his followers move to Medina, raid caravans
624 – Battle of Badr
625 – Battle of Uhud
629 – Muhammad conquest of Mecca
632 – Mohammed dies
633 – Mesopotamia falls to Muslim invasion, followed by the entire Persian Empire
635 – Damascus falls
638 – Jerusalem capitulates
643 – Alexandria falls, ending 1,000 years of Hellenic civilization
648-49 – Cyprus falls
653 – Rhodes falls
673 – Constantinople attacked
698 – All of North Africa lost
711 – Spain invaded
717 – Muslims attack Constantinople again; repelled by Emperor Leo the Isaurian
721 – Saragossa falls, Muslims sights on southern France
720 – Narbonne falls.
732 – Bordeaux was stormed and its churches burnt down
732 – Charles Martel and his Frankish army defeat Muslims, turning back the Muslim tide
732 – Attacks on France continued
734 – Avignon captured by an Muslim force
743 – Lyons sacked
759 – Arabs driven out of Narbonne.
838 – Marseilles plundered
800 – Muslims incursions into Italy begin, Islands of Ponza and Ischia plundered
813 – Civitavecchia, the port of Rome sacked
826 – Crete falls to Muslim forces
827 – Muslim forces begin to attack Sicily.
837 – Naples repels a Muslim attack
838 – Marseilles taken
840 – Bari falls
842 – Messina captured and Strait of Messina controlled
846 – Muslims squadrons arrived at Ostia, at the Tiber’s mouth, sack Rome and St. Peter’s Basilica
846 – Taranto in Apulia conquered by Muslim forces
849 – Papal forces repel Muslim fleet at the mouth of the Tiber
853 – 871 – Italian coast from Bari down to Reggio Calabria controlled, Muslims terrorize Southern Italy.
859 – Muslims take control of all Messina
870 – Malta captured by the Muslims.
870 – Bari recaptured from the Muslims by Emperor Louis II
872 – Emperor Louis II defeats a Saracen fleet off Capua
872 – Muslim forces devastate Calabria
878 – Syracuse falls after a nine-month siege
879 – Pope John VIII forced to pay tribute of 25,000 mancuses (AUD$625,000) annually to the Muslims
880 – Byzantine Commanders gain victory over Saracen forces at Naples
881 – Muslims capture fortress near Anzio, plunder surrounding countryside with impunity for forty [40] years.
887 – Muslim armies take Hysela and Amasia, in Asia Minor.
889 – Toulon captured
921 – English pilgrims to Rome crushed to death under rocks rolled down on them by Saracens in the passes of the Alps
902 – Muslim fleets sacked and destroyed Demetrias in Thessaly, Central Greece,
904 – Thessalonica falls to Muslim forces
915 – After three months of blockade, Christian forces victorious against Saracens holed-up in their fortresses north of Naples
934 – Genoa attacked by Muslim forces
935 – Genoa taken
972 – Saracens finally driven from Faxineto
976 – Caliphs of Egypt send fresh Muslim expeditions into southern Italy. Initially the German Emperor Otho II , who had set up his headquarters in Rome, successfully defeated these Saracen forces
977 – Sergius, Archbishop of Damascus, expelled from his See by Muslims
982 – Emperor Otho’s forces ambushed and his army defeated
1003 – Muslims from Spain sack Antibes
1003-09 – Marauding bands of Saracens plunder Italian coast from Pisa to Rome from bases on Sardinia
1005 – Muslims from Spain sack Pisa
1009 – Caliph of Egypt orders destruction of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem, the Tomb of Jesus
1010 – Saracens seize Cosenza in southern Italy.
1015 – All Sardinia falls
1016 – Muslims from Spain again sack Pisa
1017 – Fleets of Pisa and Genoa sail for Sardinia, find Saracens crucifying Christians, drive Saracen leader out. Saracens try to re-take Sardinia until 1050
1020 – Muslims from Spain sack Narbonne
1095 – The First Crusade.

There were 463 years between Mohammed’s death in 632 and the calling of a Crusade to free lands that had been Christian for a thousand years before the Muslim invaders arrived.
Source: “The Crusades In Context” by Dr Paul Stenhouse

Of course, Islamic-driven warfare didn’t stop with the end of the Crusades. One of the other regular Muslim posters on this forum even went so far as to claim that their conquest of Southern and South Eastern Europe were to ensure the religious freedom of Muslims! You gotta ask yourself how many Muslims were in Spain, Southern France, and Vienna before the Muslim invasions.

Another concept is Islamic dualism. Our thinking in the West is based upon the law of contradiction. If two things contradict each other, then at least one of them has to be false. But inside of Islamic logic, two contradictory statements can both be true. Islam uses dualistic logic and we use unitary scientific logic. This is why understanding them is difficult.

 

[tomarin]

And one thing to remember - it wasn’t made in an ‘infallible’ moment - so it can indeed be disagreed with.

Good grief, stop moving the goalposts. I was responding to your comment that “I don’t know how anyone can come up with anything different unless he is a Muslim trying to convince us Islam is part of the Judeo-Christian tradition”. That’s an absurd thing to say once you’ve been shown the text of the encyclical I quoted (unless you think Pope Paul VI was secretly a Muslim).

I’ll just assume that you believe anyone who disagrees with you is a secret Muslim and get on with my life.

And I like how you defend such despicable behavior by other Muslims by pointing out some Vatican II thing.

Why shouldn’t I quote it if it proves you’re wrong?

 

[jakasaki]

You have to remember the Muslim reference point. Islam was born with the idea that it should rule the world. That is the normal state of affairs, and a status short of that is a disorder. Therefore, anyone or anything standing it the way of Islam reaching its goal of world dominion is an “aggressor” and/or is “fighting an aggressive war” against Islam. Even the mere existence of a non-believer is an act of aggression against Islam. This is why Muslims claim they fight only in “defense” of Islam. It’s as though you have to have a different English dictionary in your hand when debating a Muslim.

This is also why they claim that their wars against the Crusaders were defensive in nature, which is laughable when you consider what took place before the Crusades:

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Of course, Islamic-driven warfare didn’t stop with the end of the Crusades. One of the other regular Muslim posters on this forum even went so far as to claim that their conquest of Southern and South Eastern Europe were to ensure the religious freedom of Muslims! You gotta ask yourself how many Muslims were in Spain, Southern France, and Vienna before the Muslim invasions.

Another concept is Islamic dualism. Our thinking in the West is based upon the law of contradiction. If two things contradict each other, then at least one of them has to be false. But inside of Islamic logic, two contradictory statements can both be true. Islam uses dualistic logic and we use unitary scientific logic. This is why understanding them is difficult.

Well said SedonaMan, well said.

I’m sure our muslim member Planten will come along and correct your “historical data”…

 

[MDK]

MDK, there is no revealed truth in bibleNT. It is a work of some unknown men wrote what they thought. Bible is a man made book, said to be inspired. Inspiration is well below a revelation. Inspiration is from the inside of a person. revelation is from outside and above. You have nogood beliefs (news) about a God.

Yes, according to you, and this is the result when you do not know these men, you do not know the truth, and you do not really know much about God. If we on the other hand say according to God, then there is revealed truth in the NT. The inspiration we refer to in the NT is from God, the Holy Spirit. Like I said, since you don’t know God, you won’t understand the truth I tell you.

**I told you that you do not have any truth about any religion. God revealed Himself to all people of the world through the messengers. jesus was just one of them. A Messenger. A true messenger and the Messiah for the Jews. **

Yes, another thing you’ve said wrong… and unfortunately you’re very, very ignorant of what God has done, and very, very arrogant about your ignorance.

Don’t worry. You christians had converted many millions to christianity through your planning and effort and massacre during the 14th to 20th century C.E. But it was all wrong. Wrong teachings. These were spread successfully all over the world and many were converted to christianity in Afrika and Asia. And you spread your ibles too. But that was the end of your effort because soon the people learnt all about the falsehood of your teachings, they stopped converting and those who had been christians got divided into many sects. Some became atheists too,a nd some JW’s and some Mormons.

Who is worried? Which falsehood(s) did they (whoever they are) learn?

While you’re coming up with your false list, I’ll tell folks that the only falsehoods about Catholicism are those invented by those acting as enemies to the Church of God.

You christians are in the habit of blaming of blaming islam about convert or die. that is all false. If any one wants to see the real face of Catholics and the good example of convert or die, ten that person should see the massacre done by king ferdinand and queen Isabela in Spain.

It is sadly ignorance that keeps people from knowing God. I hope you get over your ignorance. You apparently know nothing in reality about the Inquisition(s). It’s just when someone has no truth, they move on to attempt slander via Inquisition. It may take a while for you to overcome your ignorance. The first thing one should do when finding their self in a hole, is to stop digging.

There is no use you abusing any one.

Well, it wasn’t done. Your claim to the contrary is simply another false accusation, of which at least this you are consistent at.

 

[MDK]

When you think the Bible agrees with you then you quote it as if what you’re quoting is fact. When you are shown to be wrong you dismiss it as an afterthought.

The Quran reads like it was written by a child and is lacking in the complexity that we find even in a Disney children’s film. The directives are culled from an outside view of a foreign societal concept, attempting to harmonize Judaism with Christianity. It’s schizophrenic, self contradictory and frightening in that it’s actually a book of how to operate a society. It’s impossible to compare it to the Bible, but the simplicity of the Quran explains why Muslims have so much difficulty understanding the Bible, although I think a better explanation is that they don’t actually read the Bible but pull quotes written by others out of context and with no Christian explanation or attempt at understanding. Instead they reply with the ever profound “say not three” statement. The proper response to that would be to duck.

This response is no surprise and is far more abusive than what it was a reply to, which was a criticism of the religious system itself and a profound concern for the Muslim people who have been lied to over the centuries by Mohammad’s book and the religion he invented.

Yes, another good point about the hypocrisy of Islamic propagandists.

 

[MDK]

No need to fret. What he quoted was what the Vatican said about Muslims, not Islam. What it is merely saying is that there are lots of Muslims sincerely seeking God, but [implied] that it doesn’t make Islam correct. I haven’t researched it out, but I’m sure that the Vatican is somewhat less positive about Islam itself. Just consider the pope’s comments at Regensburg.

The frustrating thing about this thread, besides getting side-tracked, is that the question, “Why do you hate Islam?” gets immediately interpreted to mean “Why do you hate Muslims?”

This is a very good point. It’s akin to the reaching out to the Lutherans as well, where Cardinal Ratzinger (who was at Vatican II), wrote about the faith of the Lutherans, but did not discuss how the lack of Sacramental Priesthood in the Lutheran church deprived them of five of the Sacraments, including a valid Eucharist.

We have to keep this on track, as we hate Islam because it hurts those who subscribe to it, namely Muslims. As fellow children of God, we seek their best interest and so we seek for them to have an authentic relationship with God, which is very difficult when subscribing to the false teachings of Islam. All of the tools of salvation are in the Catholic Church, and so we ask them to come to God, in His Church.

 

[MDK]

i don’t hate Islam. i have studied islam and i have a Koran at my house which i use for reference. i think Islam probably has positive attributes, but also many negative ones.
i am not one to judge whether it is a false religion or not.

i think the extremists have given Islam a bad name - and for good reason.

i pray that someday, these nations that prohibit religions other than Islam, will allow other religions and many will learn about Christianity and realize that it offers the truth through Christ.

It takes all of about 10 seconds to discover Islam is false, as there are many ways.

Here is one:
Islam was produced from one who claimed public revelation, 500 years after the end of public revelation by the Apostles of Jesus. Islam treats the Son of God as though He were only a prophet, and less of a prophet than Mohammad.

I could go on, but if that doesn’t do it for you, then you’re really not a Catholic.

God only built one Church, and so there’s only one true faith. There are, unfortunately, many false faith systems, and Islam is one of them.

 

[jakasaki]

Many centuries have come and gone, and the world is not the same as it was in the beginning.

There is only one thing that is not changing; the God of the Bible.

It is His quality that does not change.

He is the same yesterday, today and forever.

What He was in the beginning, he is today also.

He is the same.

There is no change in Him, even a bit.

If He could walk with Adam in the Garden of Eden, then He can walk with us today also.

If He could walk with Moses and the Israelites, then He can walk with us today also.

If He could talk to Abraham and be his friend, then He can talk with us and can be our friend today also.

If He could wipe away the tears and heal the broken hearted people then,

He can do the same today also. Why? It is because He does not change but remains the same forever.

But when we come to the koran and the hadiths, we see that mohamad declared himself to be the “last and final prophet, the “seal” of the prophets” and the koran as the last revelation.

And to boot, mohamad claimed that there will be no prophets after him.

By declaring this, mohamad declared that God is dead because God will never speak again nor send His prophets or apostles.

By declaring this, mohamad blasphemed God, and by saying this, he made the “unchanging” God as “changed.”

But I want to tell you that it is possible that mohmad is correct in his prediction because allah and the God of the Bible is not the same God.

The God of the Bible is an unchanging God, and that’s why the Bible says, in ~~~

1 John 4:1-3,

1 Beloved,** do not trust every spirit but test the spirits to see whether they belong to God,** because** many false prophets have gone out into the world.**

2 This is how you can know the Spirit of God: every spirit that acknowledges Jesus Christ come in the flesh be longs to God,

3 and every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus does not belong to God. This is the spirit of the antichrist that, as you heard, is to come, but in fact is already in the world.

The **God of the Bible never said **that He will send a **Last **prophet, but He said that we will come across both true and false prophets, but we have to test every spirit and know whether they are from God or not.

Since islam is new, it had no ways of testing a “true prophet” of God - The Jews and the Christians did and that is why they kept questioning and testing mohamad, but alas, mohamad failed all of the tests.

Whatever mohamad said the pagan arabs listened. Just like a child where you read “mother goose” to them as toddlers, they take it all in.

Islam is false - hate is a “harsh” word. I dislike it and believe it’s people being misled into a false religion/ideology and most important is that they can’t question it and the ones who do question it, leave it.

 

[StevieD]

As far as I am aware Islam is the only ‘religion’ that threatens those who convert to other religions with death. In the UK there are families in hiding because they have converted to Christianity. The muslims say that they regard Jesus as a prophet but as they seem to ignore every lesson that He taught, we can’t really take them seriously.
Mahomet’s ‘recognition’ of Jesus in this way was merely a ploy to make the conversions of Christians easier in his day. His instructions to murder and enslave are odious and irreligious. We have had Muslim teachers in the UK telling young men that in the future (when the jihad is won) they will be permitted to murder or enslave their ‘Kufr’ neighbours (i.e. us!). Is it any wonder Islam is despised.