Why do you hate Islam?

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Why do you hate Islam?
Is it because Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world?
cnn.com/WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/
defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10042001_200110043.html
themodernreligion.com/convert/am.htm

Do you deeply believe in the logic of Islam and you can’t say it?
Did you visit Islamic sites or read Koran to judge it?
Judging can’t be done by quick overview but needs reading and comparing.
Do you know Islam respects Jesus and Mary very much and Jewish call them illegitimate and whore?
We have all the resources to know and judge. Check the Internet, it’s free.

Beneficial Links for Non-Muslims
muslim-answers.org
islam-guide.com/
al-sunnah.com/onlyforyou.htm
convertstoislam.org/
muslim-answers.org/am-toc.htm#BIBLE
Thanks for the resources! I am not ashamed to say that I find Islam to be an attractive religion. However, there are parts about it that I cannot reconcile with my conscience and heart. Therefore, I choose to remain what I am and that is a Unitarian Universalist with some liberal Christian beliefs. I also have beliefs stemming from other religions as well. 🙂

May Allah (God) richly bless you. 👍
 
Agabriel,

The American genocide and enslavement of African people likewise has been insufficiently recognized,

Your knowledge, or lack thereof, of history is a laugh riot, Jazzy. Everyone who disputes with me slavery during Islam looses in the end . Moslems bought slaves to free them . Slaves that were bought by moslems were not treated as slaves but members of the family. Why do you think many African Americans are joining Islam now our days because it is the only relgion that didn’t enslave people.

How many American Moslems do you know in the USA ? They are not oppressed in the USA ? Well you can read Amnesty International Report let see.

Today, the common image of Islam being spread by an Arab on camel back riding in off the desert with a Quraan in one hand and a scimitar (a curved sword) in the other offering a choice of either accepting Islaam or losing one’s head. FYI There is no term in Islam which means “holy war” and the true meaning of jihad is to strive/make effort in the way of Allah. Thus striving in the way of Allah can be both peaceful and physical.

The religion did not spread by the sword. There were military confrontations between the Muslim state and the existing world powers of Rome and Persia. However, the areas conquered were put under Muslim administration and the populations were free to maintain their own beliefs. Muslims ruled Egypt, Palestine and Lebanon from the 8th century and sizeable Christian communities continued to exist over the past 13 centuries. Muslims ruled Spain for 700 years and India for 1000 years without the vast majority of the population converting to Islam.

The largest Muslim country in the world today is Indonesia, having over 300 million citizens, never saw a Muslim soldier. Islam spread there and in Malaysia and Philippines by trade. That was also the case of Islam’s spread in West African countries like Nigeria, Ghana, Senegal, Chad and Niger. Also, Islam is the fastest growing religion in America today with anywhere between 500 and 1000 converts daily. This is taking place without any soldiers or even missionaries.

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It takes place because if you don’t covert you are killed or considered a second class citizen.

Ravi explains well.

youtube.com/watch?v=BzV-jPjCjXw

He says Islam is the most quickly spreading forced religion.
 
Claire from DE,

There are more peaceful Muslims than there are extremists Muslims. So…the religion is not to blame, but the people are. Hitler played off German Nationalism, so are Germans to blame? Or was it the Nazis?

Islam is a peaceful religion, just like most. It’s just the ‘‘extremist’’ with their own agenda, who have been brainwashed that are ‘‘terrorists’’, just like any religion.

the problem with the world is people tend to associate the ONE bad example of something with the rest of the crowd…i.e.: all middle easterners are America hating plane crashing terrorists… this is a stupid way to think…Muslim is a peaceful religion, its just that category of extremism that is always portrayed in the media. The terrorists have a warped view on martyrism, but try to change their minds…it’ll get you nowhere. But I do wish that people would quit generalizing about groups. Just like WWII, all Germans at the time weren’t Jew-hating Nazis; it was just that level of the hierarchy that wanted the Aryan race purified…
 
The American genocide and enslavement of African people likewise has been insufficiently recognized
If those of African decent are still so upset by it, they don’t have to stay in America. Easy as that.

Furthermore, there was not only reparations, but, they now get an entire history month, as well as the history of the time in EVERY American history textbook that covers it. If there is anything that has not been recognized, any body has the right to bring this up to the government.

The United States knows and acknowledges it’s past, unlike some places/peoples…I’M LOOKING AT ~YOU~ OTTOMAN EMPIRE/TURKEY!
 
There’s just too much truth and reason in Catholicism for anything else to be credible. I don’t hate Islam, I just think it’s false.
the problem with the world is people tend to associate the ONE bad example of something with the rest of the crowd…
Sometimes such comparisons are justified. Muhammad had relations with a nine-year-old girl. That reflects poorly on the entire religion since it diminishes the credibility of his so-called prophetic office.
 
These are a few thoughts on my dislike for Islam. (All thoughts interconnected)

-Why should I take seriously a religion who portrays God as a capricious bully? God, as Islam sees Him, is a dictator who expects and demands submission for reasons not entirely clear beyond the “He is God, you must submit or be punished.” There is no creative or loving aspect to God in Islam. It speaks volumes that Islam (outside of the mystical fringe Sufi) have produced no noteworthy poetry of the loving relationship between God and his creatures like that found in the Song of Songs, John Donne, and Saint John of the Cross. He expects stasis- why create (and why create beings with free will,) if you wish people to have no choice?

-Why should I take seriously a religion that is rather superficial? With apologies to our fundamentalist Christian brethren- Islam reminds me of these Protestants groups that are high on feeling and low on intellect. We have some very brilliant Calvinists, Lutherans, Anglicans (for example) in this forum who are very knowledgeable and able to present detailed arguments/rebuttals that show both the rich history and scope of the thoughtful theological debate and creative (sometimes original) fruit that sometimes is borne of those trees of thinking. Islam, from all my interactions with its followers, seems to repeatedly use the same pamphlet like arguments in hopes of enticing people. Now, I am aware of that there is a small well of theological/philosophical thought in Islam that is rather rich- but unlike other religions, it seems to have been largely choked out in favor of a by the numbers adherence that can’t really speak to/with me, only at me.

-Islam lacks the irony (and with irony, compassion) that religions like Christianity and Judaism have- and have cultivated. For example when Jesus admonishes the crowd for wanting to punish a woman for adultery in the Gospel of John, he says “Let he who’s not sin cast the first stone.” There is irony in this statement- all of them have naturally sinned at one point. But it is only with that irony can he convey this message (all are sinners) and the greater point still that by recognizing this irony, we are putting ourselves in the others shoes and realizing that the woman of the story (and all of us) need mercy for our trespasses. Where is this in Islam?

-Islam has yet to face the rigors of criticism. Either actual criticism is suppressed in Islamic communities, it is quarantined, or it is ignored; Islam still faces the treatment that has come to all religions…and intuitively, I am not sure it will hold up as well as other faiths.

-There is no room for doubt in lslam and it is much poorer for it. Throughout the Old and New Testaments, holy and righteous people struggle with God, are angry at God, hold contempt for God, and most importantly doubt God. These very human reactions play a part in bringing them closer to God, especially doubt. Doubts leads to a growth of faith because it not only focuses your attention on that which you are doubting, but it also shows us how important the need for faith and trust is in relationships. Where is this in Islam?
 
adstrinity,

Americans whites believed that God wanted them to have the land. Until recent years, the Indian genocide was celebrated in Western movies, and never criticized in schools. Just as Indians were considered uncivilized heathens not deserving basic rights.

phoenix3212,

Back in the 7th century, Muhammed marraige to a 9 year old girl was accepted by all religions and laws of that age. The Jewish religion even says that a man can have intercourse with a girl that is 3 years and one day old [muslims dont beleive that, and the Jews probably dont implement this now] Even up untill a hundred years ago, the offical age of consent for a girl was as young as the age of 10 in the USA.

It was reported in the British Media a few years ago, that a girl aged 9 became pregnant after having sex with a 10 year old girl, And many girls are being married around the age of 10 in many African countires [muslim and non muslim countries] . This proves that a girl can concieve at that age. And if a girl is brought up according to Gods religion, then she is much more mature [mentaly and attitude wise] then a girl of the modern secualr era. Also we have to take peoples life expectancy into consideration back in the 7th century, the life expectancy back then was a lot shorter then it is now thus it was natural for girls to be married as early as the age of nine.

So there is no reason why we should think that Muhammed marraige to a nine year old girl, back in the 7th century, was in contradiction to Gods religion.

no other religious book that instructs men to have only one wife. According to the different scriptures one can marry as many as one wishes. In earlier times, Christian men were permitted as many wives as they wished, since the Bible puts no restriction on the number of wives, It was only later, that the Hindu priests and the Christian Church restricted the number of wives to one.

Polygyny is permitted in Judaism. According to Talmudic law, Abraham had three wives, and Solomon had hundreds of wives. The practice of polygyny continued till Rabbi Gershom ben Yehudah (95% C.E to 1030 C.E) issued an edict against it. The Jewish Sephardic communities living in Muslim countries continued the practice till as late as 1950, until an Act of the Chief Rabbinate of Israel extended the ban on marrying more than one wife.

The following verse from Surah Nisa of the Glorious Qur’an:

“Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one.” [Al-Qur’an 4:3] Islam put an upper limit of four wives. Islam gives a man permission to marry two, three or four women, only on the condition that he deals justly with them. In the same chapter i.e. Surah Nisa verse 129 says:
“Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women…” [Al-Qur’an 4:129] Therefore polygyny is not a rule but an exception. Many people are under the misconception that it is compulsory for a Muslim man to have more than one wife. It cannot be said that a Muslim who has two, three or four wives is a better Muslim as compared to a Muslim who has only one wife.
 
Thanks for the resources! I am not ashamed to say that I find Islam to be an attractive religion. However, there are parts about it that I cannot reconcile with my conscience and heart. Therefore, I choose to remain what I am and that is a Unitarian Universalist with some liberal Christian beliefs. I also have beliefs stemming from other religions as well. 🙂

May Allah (God) richly bless you. 👍
You are very well, whatever your faith. islam teaches that:

Any one may be a Muslim or Jew or a christian or a person of any other faith, as long they believe in Allah (one God) and do good (examplary) deeds and they believe in the accountability of the hereafter, they have nothing to be afraid of the past or the future. (That is verse 2:62 of Quran).

There is no compulsion in (any) religion. Verse 2:256

The catholics have yet to provide any sensible superiority over the teachings of Islam. Islam teaches that God sent messengers to all nations of the world. Do the Catholics believe that?

Islam tells that the message of all messengers of God was “Peace” i.e. Islam.

Forgetting what the present day Muslims are doing, the record and working of the Christians is also not praiseworthy, about free sex and drinking and gambling etc. Muslims are being persecuted by the christians. So they retaliate. That is not for their religion. that is for their own skin.

Hatred is the worst. There are Muslims whose slogan is “Love for All, hatred for none.” How is that for a starter, if it could be followed by Muslims and the christians??
 
adstrinity,

Americans whites believed that God wanted them to have the land. Until recent years, the Indian genocide was celebrated in Western movies, and never criticized in schools. Just as Indians were considered uncivilized heathens not deserving basic rights.
Celebrated? I don’t think it was ever celebrated.

Regardless, what does this have to do with African slaves?
It was reported in the British Media a few years ago, that a girl aged 9 became pregnant after having sex with a 10 year old girl.
REALLY!!! That seems impossible on all sorts of levels. British Media reporting on something scandalous?
 
Let’s play “spot the misdirections”!
Americans whites believed that God wanted them to have the land. Until recent years, the Indian genocide was celebrated in Western movies, and never criticized in schools. Just as Indians were considered uncivilized heathens not deserving basic rights.
Well that sure has a lot to do with Islam… :rolleyes:,
Back in the 7th century, Muhammed marraige to a 9 year old girl was accepted by all religions and laws of that age. The Jewish religion even says that a man can have intercourse with a girl that is 3 years and one day old [muslims dont beleive that, and the Jews probably dont implement this now] Even up untill a hundred years ago, the offical age of consent for a girl was as young as the age of 10 in the USA.
Except for the first sentence, none of this has anything to do with Islam. And to say “Muhammad’s marriage was accepted by the religions of that age” sounds like you either want to claim that Islam’s teachings are context-dependent (i.e., not applicable now), or that somehow Jews and Christians approved of Muhammad’s moral example! RIGHT! Any evidence of that? We have plenty of writings that say to the contrary, from the early critiques of St. John Damascene, the famously-quoted Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Palaeologos, straight through today. Muhammad’s example is not in keeping with other religions. His “marriage” to Aisha is but one troubling aspect that makes it hard for non-Muslims to imagine that such man could be from God.
It was reported in the British Media a few years ago, that a girl aged 9 became pregnant after having sex with a 10 year old girl
:confused: Well that’s a medical mystery, how two girls of any age could impregnate each other…still nothing to do with Islam, though.
And many girls are being married around the age of 10 in many African countires [muslim and non muslim countries] . This proves that a girl can concieve at that age. And if a girl is brought up according to Gods religion, then she is much more mature [mentaly and attitude wise] then a girl of the modern secualr era.
“When she is brough up according to God’s religion…” she’s still 10! Muslim GIRLS are still GIRLS! Quit kidding yourselves. You guys are not some sort of special group. If Muslim girls seem more serious it’s probably because in some Muslim societies they are not given a proper education and are made to work at a very early age, so they have to grow up fast. None of this betrays any sort of maturity that would make them fit parents. My mother died when I was 14, so I too had to grow up a bit earlier than I would have otherwise. Should I have also had a child? Or, wait…I am in the wrong religion for that, right? Alhamdulillaah, I say!
Also we have to take peoples life expectancy into consideration back in the 7th century, the life expectancy back then was a lot shorter then it is now thus it was natural for girls to be married as early as the age of nine.
Muhammad certainly lived long enough…too long, some might say… :mad:
In earlier times, Christian men were permitted as many wives as they wished, since the Bible puts no restriction on the number of wives, It was only later, that the Hindu priests and the Christian Church restricted the number of wives to one.
Don’t lie about our book to make Islam more palatable! That’s disgusting. Stop it.
The practice of polygyny continued till Rabbi Gershom ben Yehudah (95% C.E to 1030 C.E) issued an edict against it. The Jewish Sephardic communities living in Muslim countries continued the practice till as late as 1950, until an Act of the Chief Rabbinate of Israel extended the ban on marrying more than one wife.
Wow. So Islamic influence corrupts Jews? And you want this to be seen as evidence of how good Islam is? Are you insane?

This thread is awful. How would you like it if I started a thread that said, as you have said here with regard to us, “Muslims only hate Christianity because they secretly, deeply believe in it and they are jealous of its success throughout the world in converting people”? (We too can play the numbers game, as Islam is growing in the USA where most people are irreligious, it is losing followers in Africa among previously strongly Muslim communities.)

You would say that this characterization is wrong and offensive and you would be right. Please consider your reaction to this hypothetical situation before you start another thread like this one. .
 
Why do you hate Islam?
Is it because Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world?
No.
Do you know Islam respects Jesus and Mary very much and Jewish call them illegitimate and whore?
I don’t give *** what Islam respects, it does not respect me, hence I do not respect it. You may call that hate.
 
Sam_777,

I was raised as a Christian, and I admit that there is a great deal of hatred and discrimination towards Islam I’ve seen and heard it, straight from the mouths of preachers and ‘christians’ I, myself, respect and admire Islam, for its perpetual struggle for justice and equal treatment.

I believe that many of the so called “Western Christians”, have an agenda to destroy and eradicate Islam. In the 50’s and 60’s, westeners targetted communism and regarded it as a threat to the western way of life~fallacy 50 years later, its the same, the only thing that changes is the target.

Now, westeners are trying to eradicate Islam, kuz its always stood in the way and been an economic/social/and religious burden for ‘christians’ Signs: surveillance of Muslims world wide, “War on Terror aka War on Islam”, and the blockade of Islamic movements inside American prisons…the list goes on

dzheremi,

Americans are “Ignorant” because their media is extremely one sided. The majority know no other sides to the story, nor do they want to question it because it may be questioning their love for their country. The majority of the people in USA have been conditioned to believe whatever their government tells them. That is why, the most one hears from an American in times of crisis is ìI am raising the flag to give support to the cause.î What cause? The cause of murdering others, the cause of having a Zionist fascist state of Israel and its cronies control the media and the decision making hierarchy in this country!

Incidentally, some questioned our humanity compared to that of the America and its people. I like to answer your doubt by posing a handful of questions:

Americans are “Ignorant” because their media is extremely one sided. The majority knows no other sides to the story, nor do they want to question it because it may be questioning their love for their country. The majority of the people in USA have been conditioned to believe whatever their government tells them. That is why, the most one hears from an American in times of crisis is raising the flag to give support to the cause. What cause? The cause of murdering others, the cause of having a Zionist fascist state of Israel and its cronies control the media and the decision making hierarchy in this country!

Incidentally, some questioned our humanity compared to that of the America and its people. I like to answer your doubt by posing a handful of questions:
  1. Who killed more than 3 million Vietnamese? America
  2. Who nuked inhabitants of Hiroshima and Nagasaki into extinction? America
  3. Who has killed over 1 million Iraqi babies from food and medicine deprivation? America
  4. Which country’s foreign secretary considers the death of 500,000 babies an acceptable price? Americas. Lesley Stahl asked former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright during her interview on 60 Minutes in 1996, the following:
“We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And – and you know, is the price worth it?”
Albright responded: “I think this is a very hard choice, but the price – we think the price is worth it.”
  1. Which country has turned Afghanistan into uranium wasteland and thus, uninhabitable? America
  2. Which country has also turned areas of Iraq, Kosovo, Serbia and Bosnia uninhabitable? America
  3. Which country conspired to facilitate the invasion of Afghanistan by the former Soviet Union? America did.
 
dzheremi,

Americans are “Ignorant”
Before you go on: Where, in any part of my post, did I ask you why you think Americans are “ignorant”? (In other words, how is any of what follows any kind of answer to anything in my post?)
because their media is extremely one sided. The majority know no other sides to the story, nor do they want to question it because it may be questioning their love for their country. The majority of the people in USA have been conditioned to believe whatever their government tells them. That is why, the most one hears from an American in times of crisis is ìI am raising the flag to give support to the cause.î What cause? The cause of murdering others, the cause of having a Zionist fascist state of Israel and its cronies control the media and the decision making hierarchy in this country!
What’s your point? Americans have access to the same media as any other people with (un-restricted) internet/satelite TV. You can’t blame everything on the media. And I don’t know what Israel has to do with anything. No one is talking about Israel but you.
Incidentally, some questioned our humanity compared to that of the America and its people. I like to answer your doubt by posing a handful of questions:

Americans are “Ignorant” because their media is extremely one sided. The majority knows no other sides to the story, nor do they want to question it because it may be questioning their love for their country. The majority of the people in USA have been conditioned to believe whatever their government tells them. That is why, the most one hears from an American in times of crisis is raising the flag to give support to the cause. What cause? The cause of murdering others, the cause of having a Zionist fascist state of Israel and its cronies control the media and the decision making hierarchy in this country!
Hahaha. Speaking of “ignorance”, you appear to have cut & pasted this twice in the same post. Oops. Don’t worry; I won’t use this to form any opinion of Muslims. I know plenty who can actually form original thoughts rather than just blindly rattling off anti-American invective. You should try to emulate them.
Incidentally, some questioned our humanity compared to that of the America and its people. I like to answer your doubt by posing a handful of questions:
  1. Who killed more than 3 million Vietnamese? America
  2. Who nuked inhabitants of Hiroshima and Nagasaki into extinction? America
  3. Who has killed over 1 million Iraqi babies from food and medicine deprivation? America
  4. Which country’s foreign secretary considers the death of 500,000 babies an acceptable price? Americas.
Who murdered untold numbers of native Sudanese in southern Sudan? Muslims.
Who blew up the Al-Askari mosque in Iraq because it was being used by followers of the “wrong” sect? Muslims
Who killed over 150 Jews in Baghdad in the farhud in 1941, years before there was an “Israel” to scapegoat? Muslims
Who seized the Grand Mosque in Mecca, the holiest place in Islam? Muslims

Grow up and face the fact that not every bad thing that happens in the Middle East happens because America or Israel will it.
“We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And – and you know, is the price worth it?”
Albright responded: “I think this is a very hard choice, but the price – we think the price is worth it.”
What does this have to do with anything at all? I am really struggling to see how this is even tangentially related to Islam. I am understanding that you do not like America, but what of it? You are not exactly building a coherent argument.
  1. Which country has turned Afghanistan into uranium wasteland and thus, uninhabitable? America
  2. Which country has also turned areas of Iraq, Kosovo, Serbia and Bosnia uninhabitable? America
Yes, because these places were all sooooo great before America came to them. I’ll admit we did not make any of them better (in my personal opinion, at least), but you’re an idiot if you don’t realize that what went on in the Balkans and Afghanistan wasn’t the result of America plotting against the nationals of those countries, but of actions taken by the people of those countries themselves. America didn’t make the Bosnians and Serbs go to war with each other, for instance.
  1. Which country conspired to facilitate the invasion of Afghanistan by the former Soviet Union? America did.
I have heard this theory more than once. Maybe there is some truth to it. Anyway, what is the point of any of this? Are you trying to insult me because you are making assumptions that I will disagree with all of your assertions? I don’t know if Russia was lured into Afghanistan or not. I do know that the Afghans were not partial to the Soviet puppet government before the invasion, and I have known Russians who served over there who for their part didn’t like it, either. The world is not so simple as “Islam good - not Islam bad” (or for that matter, Christian good - not Christian bad). You don’t have to be a non-American to recognize when people are suffering, either from war or oppressive government or whatever. Why do you think so many of us don’t like Islam to begin with?
 
I was raised as a Christian,
It would be good to tell us your complete story. 🙂
and I admit that there is a great deal of hatred and discrimination towards Islam I’ve seen and heard it, straight from the mouths of preachers and ‘christians’
Again Christianity doesn’t teach that, unlike Islam which does. http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon13.gif
for its perpetual struggle for justice and equal treatment.
Stay tuned tomorrow for a thread specially for you. 😉
I believe that many of the so called “Western Christians”, have an agenda to destroy and eradicate Islam.
Maybe you should call them “Western Seculars”. :cool:
 
I despise Islam because it keeps those adherents, who are also God’s Children, from true and authentic relationship, worship and Sacraments in His one Church that God established. Islam is the largest of the Christian heresies, which means an awful lot of people are being misled. I despise Islam because it misleads people, which means I love the people who are being misled by Islam, and desire that they have an authentic knowledge of God and intimate relationship with Him, which is virtually impossible in Islam. Some adherents to Islam will decry this, and not knowing any better they will deny what I’ve said. It must be said that one must know what is true, before one can identify what is not true. I do know the truth in the Catholic Church, and those who don’t know this, will never be able to differentiate between truth and falsehood.
 
lid2;,
The American genocide and enslavement of African people likewise has been insufficiently recognized,


I am not American, but I have seen dozens of AMERICAN movies about the tragic slavery that took place in America some centuries ago.
If you want to talk about genocide please preach to your muslim brothers; so many deny the Holocaust and in Turkey you have a whole Muslim nation that denies the genocide of the armenian Christians in 1919.

Your knowledge, or lack thereof, of history is a laugh riot, Jazzy. Everyone who disputes with me slavery during Islam looses in the end . Moslems bought slaves to free them.

Actually slavery is allowed in Islam and its still practiced many places in the Muslim world. Wipe your own nose first…

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Slaves that were bought by moslems were not treated as slaves but members of the family. Why do you think many African Americans are joining Islam now our days…**

You live in denial. Africa is fastly becoming a Christian continent.

**How many American Moslems do you know in the USA ? They are not oppressed in the USA ? Well you can read Amnesty International Report let see. **

Yes, they are not opressed in the US because of a constitution based on freedom. As for Amnesty Int. they have sold their soul to left-wing agendas long time ago. No one takes Amnesty Intl. very seriously in Europe anymore…

. There is no term in Islam which means “holy war” and the true meaning of jihad is to strive/make effort in the way of Allah. Thus striving in the way of Allah can be both peaceful and physical.

You speak against your own knowlege: there are two kinds of jihad ac. to Islam: the small and the big one. you have defined the big one… the striving of the soul. But you forget the small one… or you dont know about your own religion?

**The religion did not spread by the sword. There were military confrontations between the Muslim state and the existing world powers of Rome and Persia. However, the areas conquered were put under Muslim administration and the populations were free to maintain their own beliefs. **

Continue to live in your dream fantasy… My question is only: Why are you here?

The largest Muslim country in the world today is Indonesia, having over 300 million citizens, never saw a Muslim soldier. Islam spread there and in Malaysia and Philippines by trade. That was also the case of Islam’s spread in West African countries like Nigeria, Ghana, Senegal, Chad and Niger. Also, Islam is the fastest growing religion in America today with anywhere between 500 and 1000 converts daily. This is taking place without any soldiers or even missionaries.

The spread of Islam takes place through child birth… demographics. This is a known fact. The spread of Christinanity takes place through inner conviction and sincere quest for truth. When it comes to Indonesia: Islam is not the statereligion in Indonesia which means its clergy cannot dominate over non-muslim people. However there is both islamic terrorism in Indonesia and on the Philippines just like so many other places… There is also the tragedy of Darfur… arab Muslims made a genocide not long ago. Maybe you choose to erase that from your collective memory, but true history does not forget…
 
Agabriel,

The American genocide and enslavement of African people likewise has been insufficiently recognized,

Your knowledge, or lack thereof, of history is a laugh riot, Jazzy. Everyone who disputes with me slavery during Islam looses in the end . Moslems bought slaves to free them . Slaves that were bought by moslems were not treated as slaves but members of the family. Why do you think many African Americans are joining Islam now our days because it is the only relgion that didn’t enslave people.

How many American Moslems do you know in the USA ? They are not oppressed in the USA ? Well you can read Amnesty International Report let see.

Today, the common image of Islam being spread by an Arab on camel back riding in off the desert with a Quraan in one hand and a scimitar (a curved sword) in the other offering a choice of either accepting Islaam or losing one’s head. FYI There is no term in Islam which means “holy war” and the true meaning of jihad is to strive/make effort in the way of Allah. Thus striving in the way of Allah can be both peaceful and physical.

The religion did not spread by the sword. There were military confrontations between the Muslim state and the existing world powers of Rome and Persia. However, the areas conquered were put under Muslim administration and the populations were free to maintain their own beliefs. Muslims ruled Egypt, Palestine and Lebanon from the 8th century and sizeable Christian communities continued to exist over the past 13 centuries. Muslims ruled Spain for 700 years and India for 1000 years without the vast majority of the population converting to Islam.

The largest Muslim country in the world today is Indonesia, having over 300 million citizens, never saw a Muslim soldier. Islam spread there and in Malaysia and Philippines by trade. That was also the case of Islam’s spread in West African countries like Nigeria, Ghana, Senegal, Chad and Niger. Also, Islam is the fastest growing religion in America today with anywhere between 500 and 1000 converts daily. This is taking place without any soldiers or even missionaries.

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You got to be kidding me. You expect me to respond back to this fairy tale?

It would make as much sense as responding to the fairy tale of the big bad wolf and the three little pigs. Oh, the wolf would have let those pigs go, if they would not have prejudged him and his desire to eat them.

The violence in Islam is inexcusable and your viewpoint on Slavery in islam is another fairy tale. While it still is going strong, even some Muslims got caught with their slaves in our lands. and they now sit in prison. Some are going on trial.

Here are some articles: list of articles 1, articles 2.

There are more, and I figure you won’t read these since the fairy tales you give to me would be in jeopardy.
 
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