Why do you need to tell the ward?

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I am SO confused! A friend on another board is moving. I didn’t know she was a Mormon until she posted that one of her visiting teachers found out she was moving and she was called in to answer questions about it.

What business is it to the ‘church’? Why would you have to inform…nay, ask permission, to move?

Lastly, why is it called a ward?

Thanks!

Just curious
 
I am going to guess its in relation to their tithing which, is demanded of them.
 
Ah! There you are again! You are a fount of knowledge!! 🙂

Ok. I was just wondering why. It seems so strange to me…

My sister was almost sucked into a cult (not LDS) and they had some similar rules. Heck, we caught her as she was going out the door to disown us and join ‘the path of righteousness’.
 
Make no mistake, I am no fount of knowledge, :o

I just happen to enjoy looking into faiths that are non trinitarian (as we believe it)

Glad to hear your sister did not get swept away into something like that.
Ah! There you are again! You are a fount of knowledge!! 🙂

Ok. I was just wondering why. It seems so strange to me…

My sister was almost sucked into a cult (not LDS) and they had some similar rules. Heck, we caught her as she was going out the door to disown us and join ‘the path of righteousness’.
 
I am SO confused! A friend on another board is moving. I didn’t know she was a Mormon until she posted that one of her visiting teachers found out she was moving and she was called in to answer questions about it.

What business is it to the ‘church’? Why would you have to inform…nay, ask permission, to move?

Lastly, why is it called a ward?

Thanks!

Just curious
This is just one of the ways Mormons keep VERY close tabs on their members. If you move, you’re supposed to let them know. But if you don’t…no matter, they’ll hunt you down. They start by calling your relatives and/or friends . Or else your relatives just turn you in. This is what happened to my husband. Then they forward your member record file to that ward. Then they sic the missionaries on you or the bishop just shows up or you suddenly have a home teacher calling AND showing up. I’m not even a member, but I still get messages once in awhile for relief society events!:eek: So they have a file on ME.

Some people try to go inactive by not alerting their current ward that they are moving. They try to just fade away. It may work for a little while…but like I said before, they usually find you. I imagine that your friend was trying to go inactive. She likely got hauled into the Bishop’s office for an interview because she didn’t tell them she was moving and they found out. They’ll want to know WHY she wasn’t going to tell them she was moving. I imagine she was grilled on her “testimony”:rolleyes: . A member in good-standing would never dream of not telling the ward where they could forward the family’s records.

A ward is a geographical boundry where all people within that ward are to attend a certain church building at a certain time. As I understand it here, they rotate the times throughout the year. So you’re not stuck with a time forever. I know my in-laws dislike going really early or really late since they are 3 hour blocks of time. You’re just not allowed to pick a time that’s convenient for you. Even if you would prefer to drive a little further and go to a different ward house because you like the music more, or maybe some of your family attend there…you can’t.

That is control.

It is presumably to maintain the tight control of the people within the ward and ultimately their accountability for their tithing. If you go skipping around…you could likely get out of your tithing, fast offerings, and other financial obligations. If all your records are in one place and you are ASSIGNED a time, ASSIGNED a church, ASSIGNED a bishop, it is easier for them to hold you accountable among your neighbors. It is peer pressure to conform. You WANT to be a worthy temple-recommend Mormon, so you need to keep up with the Jones’.

A really weird example of this I’ve observed time and time again in my husband’s family. They’ll all get together for Christmas or some other big holiday where families usually all come together. But sometimes when one of these holidays is really close to Sunday, you’d think they would all go to the ward where the family is gathering. Isn’t that what most people do? As Catholics, we love to attend Mass with our families on Easter and Christmas no matter if it is not your usual parish!

My husband’s siblings and their spouses make a big deal of wrapping things up early because they all “have to get back to their OWN wards” JUST for Sunday. I kid you not. I thought they were joking the very first time this occured:eek: . They forsake FAMILY get-togethers because they obviously feel they need to make an appearance at their own ward at these important holidays and visiting another ward (which anyone can certainly do) if it can be avoided, is.:confused:
 
I was only a Mormon for a very brief time (less than a year), but I have to say I found the Mormon church to be a very nice bunch of folk, not TOO awfully controlling (except for that all-important tithe and the health issues (tobacco, alcohol, caffeine) so that you can get your Temple Recommend.

When you move and “tell the ward,”
it’s similar to most dioceses’ requirement that Catholics
be REGISTERED at their neighborhood parish (even if they never attend THAT parish but attend another instead).

The control-level in Mormonism is NOTHING
compared to the tight control of the JW religion ((of which I was raised in, but only a baptized member for about 5 years)).

Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+
 
Brother Jaypeeto4,

Be more specific about their tithing, wont you? While we have our envelopes, we are asked to give surely, but not by a set forced amount- and if we cant give we can give our time or talents, but- please tell us how far the mormons go to INSURE they get their money.
I was only a Mormon for a very brief time (less than a year), but I have to say I found the Mormon church to be a very nice bunch of folk, not TOO awfully controlling (except for that all-important tithe and the health issues (tobacco, alcohol, caffeine) so that you can get your Temple Recommend.

When you move and “tell the ward,”
it’s similar to most dioceses’ requirement that Catholics
be REGISTERED at their neighborhood parish (even if they never attend THAT parish but attend another instead).

The control-level in Mormonism is NOTHING
compared to the tight control of the JW religion ((of which I was raised in, but only a baptized member for about 5 years)).

Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+
 
I was only a Mormon for a very brief time (less than a year), but I have to say I found the Mormon church to be a very nice bunch of folk, not TOO awfully controlling (except for that all-important tithe and the health issues (tobacco, alcohol, caffeine) so that you can get your Temple Recommend.

When you move and “tell the ward,”
it’s similar to most dioceses’ requirement that Catholics
be REGISTERED at their neighborhood parish (even if they never attend THAT parish but attend another instead).

The control-level in Mormonism is NOTHING
compared to the tight control of the JW religion ((of which I was raised in, but only a baptized member for about 5 years)).

Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+
Jaypeeto: Did you ever get into a temple?
 
When you move and “tell the ward,”
it’s similar to most dioceses’ requirement that Catholics
be REGISTERED at their neighborhood parish (even if they never attend THAT parish but attend another instead).
There is one significant difference. Mormons track their members in a membership database. If you move out of a ward, there is a ward clerk that starts to wondering where you went. If you believe it is none of their business where you went, too bad. Some other mormon member will be sure to help the old ward clerk, and your new ward clerk, to get your membership records into the correct ward. If that doesn’t work, there is a whole church department that does nothing but try to find where a person has moved and where their membership records belong. They call relatives that they have on record, and inquire if they know where you have landed.

So even if you move, and never tell the old ward you left or your new ward you have arrived, it always ends up that those membership records follow you. Which, once they find their place you will receive phone calls from mormon leaders of various organizations who want to check up on you. Ward bulletins mailed to your house and everyone else in the ward, with things like your birth date posted in them. Missionaries coming to your door asking to speak to your children, by name.

If this is bothersome then it is required that you request, in writing, that your name be removed from their membership records. But your name is never actually removed. It is kept in the mormon church’s membership database, just flagged as no longer a member (or whatever lingo they use). So there is always the possibility (and has happened) that some mormon screws up and uses that database record to contact you. Again.

And this is not just a removal from their database, it is a removal from their church. Either you are on board with all this tracking you down, or you are not a member. There is no being a member and keeping your privacy and accounting for yourself.

So all that to say, when you register with a Catholic parish, it is at your discretion. And no one is going to track you down, check on why you don’t go to church every Sunday, or send you parish bulletins in the mail!
 
Hi.
No, I didn’t stay in long enough to get a Temple Recommend.

I HAVE, however, been inside the beautiful
Washington, DC Mormon Temple, which was built in the early 1970s. It was not DEDICATED yet and was open to the public for tours. My junior high school scheduled a three hour tour of the new Temple, and I was awestruck at the stunning beauty and serenity of the place. The building is enormous and majestic, not like the much smaller Temples the LDS build these days.
The Washington DC Temple is topped by marble corners that have beautiful gold spires soaring into the air. On the central and tallest spire is a beautiful golden statue of the Angel Moroni blowing a trumpet. When you’re driving on the Capital Beltway in Kensington Maryland, and come around the curve and see that gorgeous temple soaring above the tops of the trees for the first time, it is enough to take your breath away and cause you to lose control of your car. It’s quite a sight to see. Much more beautiful than the Salt Lake Temple, which is much older in style and architecture.

We went all through the building, including the room where Baptisms for the Dead are performed and saw the big baptismal pool that sits on the backs of twelve sculpted bulls, and we went through the Celestial Room and everything. It was very lovely and serene. Because of that visit, I had a lifelong fascination with the Mormon church which culminated in my briefly joining the church for a few months in my 20s. Nice people, but I couldn’t get comfortable in my spirit with the doctrines, so I left the LDS church. I wrote a letter of resignation to church headquarters in Salt Lake and, unlike the cruel treatment I received after being booted out of the Witnesses, the LDS headquarters in Salt Lake sent me a lovely and kind letter inviting me to come back to the LDS Church anytime and that they’d be waiting with open arms.
Nice folks.

Of course, not believing in Mormonism, and believing in Catholicism, I wouldn’t recommend Catholics visiting new temples that are still open to the public, unless you’re just curious.

Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+
 
Hi.
No, I didn’t stay in long enough to get a Temple Recommend.

I HAVE, however, been inside the beautiful
Washington, DC Mormon Temple, which was built in the early 1970s. It was not DEDICATED yet and was open to the public for tours. My junior high school scheduled a three hour tour of the new Temple, and I was awestruck at the stunning beauty and serenity of the place. The building is enormous and majestic, not like the much smaller Temples the LDS build these days.
The Washington DC Temple is topped by marble corners that have beautiful gold spires soaring into the air. On the central and tallest spire is a beautiful golden statue of the Angel Moroni blowing a trumpet. When you’re driving on the Capital Beltway in Kensington Maryland, and come around the curve and see that gorgeous temple soaring above the tops of the trees for the first time, it is enough to take your breath away and cause you to lose control of your car. It’s quite a sight to see. Much more beautiful than the Salt Lake Temple, which is much older in style and architecture.

We went all through the building, including the room where Baptisms for the Dead are performed and saw the big baptismal pool that sits on the backs of twelve sculpted bulls, and we went through the Celestial Room and everything. It was very lovely and serene. Because of that visit, I had a lifelong fascination with the Mormon church which culminated in my briefly joining the church for a few months in my 20s. Nice people, but I couldn’t get comfortable in my spirit with the doctrines, so I left the LDS church. I wrote a letter of resignation to church headquarters in Salt Lake and, unlike the cruel treatment I received after being booted out of the Witnesses, the LDS headquarters in Salt Lake sent me a lovely and kind letter inviting me to come back to the LDS Church anytime and that they’d be waiting with open arms.
Nice folks.

Of course, not believing in Mormonism, and believing in Catholicism, I wouldn’t recommend Catholics visiting new temples that are still open to the public, unless you’re just curious.

Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+
I rather thought the one in San Diego looked like it had been built by the folks at Disney.
 
I could not help but think, “If looks could kill”

😛

I am sure many things that “look good” can be very deadly indeed.
 
I think that they call it a “ward”, because that’s where they lock up the sick people.😃
 
We use it to stab Draculas; specially the ones that crawl out of the Catholic Church. 😃

zerinus
Do they also make sure that it contains a piece of the True Cross? 😛

Why are we talking about Mormonism on a Catholic chat board? :confused:

I think if people are serious about learning what Mormons believe and why they do various things, they should ask the Mormons. Nobody here really knows.

This is just my off-the-cuff opinion, but I’m sure they would want to know the change of address for the same reason all your other friends would want to know your change of address - in order to be able to keep in touch with you. I don’t buy the conspiracy theory. 🤷
 
Do they also make sure that it contains a piece of the True Cross? 😛
We manufacture our own. The cross is no longer required. This is a new dispensation. 😃
Why are we talking about Mormonism on a Catholic chat board? :confused:
You tell me! 🤷
I think if people are serious about learning what Mormons believe and why they do various things, they should ask the Mormons. Nobody here really knows.
I am a Mormon; and I am here! 🙂
This is just my off-the-cuff opinion, but I’m sure they would want to know the change of address for the same reason all your other friends would want to know your change of address - in order to be able to keep in touch with you. I don’t buy the conspiracy theory. 🤷
What are you talking about? :confused:

zerinus
 
We manufacture our own. The cross is no longer required. This is a new dispensation. 😃
There you have the mormon belief system in a nutshell, folks. “The Cross is no longer required” all you need is Joseph Smith, who claimed to be greater than Christ Himself. Now do you see why mormonism is surely a cult?

You tell me! 🤷

I am a Mormon; and I am here! 🙂
zerinus, you need to be somewhere else, for sure. Have you thought about trying to convert the JWs? After all, cultists speak the same language.

What are you talking about? :confused:
Read the rest of the thread, zerinus. If you drop out, the mormon Gestapo track you down.
zerinus
 
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