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Doesn’t he make us sinless, too?
I am sorry if I insulted you, it wasn’t my intention.
However, you have to agree that you can’t know for sure what happened 2000 years ago. The so called ‘‘evidence’’ are all written by human hands, and humans could have added up anything.
By that logic, we can’t be sure of *anything *that has happened in the past or of *anyone. *It’s interesting to me that skeptics generally don’t doubt whether we really have accurate records of Plato, Aristotle and other ancients, but when it comes to Christ there emerges doubt and skepticism as to whether historical records about him are truly accurate. Have you ever read the history of the early Church and the intense persecution Christians in the Roman Empire endured before Emperor Constantine? They died because they wouldn’t deny that Jesus was God and wouldn’t acknowledge the Roman Emperor as a god. Basically, to become a Christian in the Roman Empire meant having the death penalty hanging over your head. The Apostles would certainly have been in a position to know if Jesus were God – they were His companions for three years. Why would they die for this belief if they knew it weren’t true? Who would die for something they know is lie? And how could they convince others so thoroughly if this belief weren’t true, so much so they would be willing to give up their lives for this belief?
Have you ever played the telephone game, where you start on one end of a room, whisper a statement into someone else’s ear, and then let the message get passed on from person to person, until the end? Notice how the message is always very different from how it begins? If Christ were just a human and our understanding of Him simply from human sources, then why would we not have a very different understanding of Him now, two thousand years later, than Christians did in the earliest centuries? We still understand Him to be true God and true Man, begotten, not made, one in being with the Father. Surely after two thousand years, our understanding of Jesus would have seriously mutated, as that understanding has in the various offshoot heretical cults over the centuries. How do you explain the Scriptures, written by over 40 different authors over a period of over 1,000 years, being in agreement and harmony, and containing hundreds of prophecies that were written hundreds of years before Christ’s birth, all of which He fulfilled?
Christ is a Person, not an abstract idea. Those who believe in Him *know Him. *He is real because we see His work in ourselves, in our lives and in the lives of others.
The prime minister of Iran doesnt even believe that the Holocaust happened to the Jews in WWII. So, how can you prove to him something happened 2000 years ago and the Holocaust was only 60 years ago?I am sorry if I insulted you, it wasn’t my intention.
However, you have to agree that you can’t know for sure what happened 2000 years ago. The so called ‘‘evidence’’ are all written by human hands, and humans could have added up anything.
You choose to believe that it is all true, even though it might not be. Other religions do the same. That’s my point.
Sure he does, if he knows multiplication. You don’t add 3 things that are the same. 111=1a wise guy dosn’t accept that 3=1.does he?
if you are talking about Jesus, then we was a human being as well…when will muslims learn to differentiate between Jesus the human being and Jesus the God incarnate? Jesus the God is eternal , but Jesus the human being was born miraculously from Mary…can you claim that God cannot do this?secondboy said:God is free from want.he need nothing and no one.
if a man is(was) born then he need father and he isn’t free from want, he isn’t God
I think you dont know concept of that statement " Jesus a human bieng and a god "if you are talking about Jesus, then we was a human being as well…when will muslims learn to differentiate between Jesus the human being and Jesus the God incarnate? Jesus the God is eternal , but Jesus the human being was born miraculously from Mary…can you claim that God cannot do this?
as one of christians said it(trinity) is test of faith.
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what are you talking about? we know perfectly well that Jesus was both human and God…so when you say : how is Jesus God if he prays to the Father? the response is that Jesus was a human as well, under the law, just as the prophecy said… but when Jesus says: before Abraham was, i am, then obviously its not a mere human being talking. I dont know what the bro meant by trinity is test of faith, but the trinity is there in the Bible. The early fathers gave the biblical concept a name, they did not invent it out of nowhere.I think you dont know concept of that statement " Jesus a human bieng and a god "
as one of christians said it(trinity) is test of faith.
Catholic, Orthodox and Protestants are christians, because they believe in trinity.Is it true that Ortodox christians don’t know Jesus as God?
they don’t consider Jesus as God.do they?
to make it easier, i’ll restate an example already given i guess:I don’t understand "three person and one god " three isn’t equal one
if three person are God then there are three Gods not one.
and if Jesus is God why shouldn’t you worship(adore) him?if he isn’t the same God?yes God that you know him as Father.
If i understood truely you want to say God is made up three parts?to make it easier, i’ll restate an example already given i guess:
a man is father , worker, and husband…is he 3 persons? no, he is one person.
You have body, soul, spirit: are you 3 persons? no…the 3 are you.Hope its a bit clearer…
As has been pointed out, three can indeed equal one. It’s simple math.I don’t understand "three person and one god " three isn’t equal one
if three person are God then there are three Gods not one.
and if Jesus is God why shouldn’t you worship(adore) him?if he isn’t the same God?yes God that you know him as Father.
ICE, Water, Steam = 3a wise guy dosn’t accept that 3=1.does he?