Why does God allow

[Vanny]

I’ve always wondered…
I believe God is the author and creator of all life-and He opens and closes he womb. If I don’t conceive-which I haven’t in a while though I’d like to- It’s because he thinks it best for me eternally to not have a child at this time.
Also, I;ve always believed that God gives couples children so that New souls can be created and live with God in heaven through all eternity.
Why does God allow children to be conceived outside of His will?
My brother knows a lesbian couple who underwent artificial insemination and had a child -Why did God create that life outside of His will- and the child won’t be raised in a Christian home, either(both into paganism)
I don’t have as much of a problem with unwed mothers because someday the mother may marry and turn to Christianity someday and also the child was conceived the natural way.
Why does God allow life to come into being if it’s a cloned embroyo that’s not even a product of a man and woman but just asexual reproduction? ( and most likely will be destroyed)
Just wondering…

 

[Ruthie]

God has given us all free will.

He wants us to choose Him, to choose to love Him; to be faithful Catholics.

Sure, maybe the world would be a better place if the Lord took away our ability to sin.

But would we know that? No. We’d be living like the animals, who have no morals, and thus cannot make moral choices.

Thus we could not choose to love God. There would be no need for Jesus’s Passion; no need for the Church - we’d just eat and sleep and reproduce, like the animals do.

That’s not what He wants!

 

[Della]

Along with Ruthie’s great answer I just wanted to point out that many a child brought up in less than good conditions or in dysfunctional families have turned to God because God is capable of overcoming any situation in life in order to call people to himself. So, don’t despair when those who do things outside of God’s will seem to benefit by their disobedience. God has and can bring good out of bad and save people we believe haven’t a chance at a life with Christ.

 

[Vanny]

Thank you both for your great replies!

 

[Della]

Vanny:

Thank you both for your great replies!

You’re quite welcome.

 

[777]

Ruthie:

God has given us all free will.

He wants us to choose Him, to choose to love Him; to be faithful Catholics.

Sure, maybe the world would be a better place if the Lord took away our ability to sin.

But would we know that? No. We’d be living like the animals, who have no morals, and thus cannot make moral choices.

Thus we could not choose to love God. There would be no need for Jesus’ Passion; no need for the Church - we’d just eat and sleep and reproduce, like the animals do.

That’s not what He wants!

So? The church can still be around and we can pray in peace, with no sin. We’d all be devine.

 

[jegow]

777:

So? The church can still be around and we can pray in peace, with no sin. We’d all be devine.

I think the point was that there would be no purpose for the Church if God had eliminated all sin in the world. Even though there is sin in the world we should still be able to find peace in our prayers and in Christ.

To the thread: Not all the times do things happen that God had in His plan but He allows them. Also, not all the things that we plan and want God to allow happen because they are not in His plan for us.

 

[Kay_Cee]

Vanny:

I’ve always wondered…
I believe God is the author and creator of all life-and He opens and closes he womb. If I don’t conceive-which I haven’t in a while though I’d like to- It’s because he thinks it best for me eternally to not have a child at this time.

Heaven also helps him (or her) who helps himself.

Have you considered Natural Family Planning? I conceived both my kids using it. We got baby #1 the first month we tried. Baby #2 took two months.

Also, I;ve always believed that God gives couples children so that New souls can be created and live with God in heaven through all eternity.

Right.

Why does God allow children to be conceived outside of His will?

I’m unsure what you mean by this. Nothing can happen outside of God’s will, at least in the sense of His allowing it to happen. As it is, God creates all of us in His own image and likeness. Perhaps you mean these children are conceived by a *manner *that opposes God’s will.

My brother knows a lesbian couple who underwent artificial insemination and had a child -Why did God create that life outside of His will- and the child won’t be raised in a Christian home, either(both into paganism)
I don’t have as much of a problem with unwed mothers because someday the mother may marry and turn to Christianity someday and also the child was conceived the natural way.
Why does God allow life to come into being if it’s a cloned embroyo that’s not even a product of a man and woman but just asexual reproduction? ( and most likely will be destroyed)
Just wondering…

Everything God allows is for a higher purpose. Children who are conceived under such circumstances are no less persons than anybody else. One of them may very well turn out to be the next Mother Teresa.

Please give NFP a try if you haven’t already. I was 35 when I married and unsure if I could have a baby at that age. I had my first at age 36 and my second at age 38.

 

[Vanny]

Kay Cee-

Yes, That was what I meant- not that the conception itself was out of God’s will (obviously God did will it or He would not have created that life!) more the MANNER in which it was conceived-which would be out of His will, especially cloning- I’m afraid people will try to bring cloned babies and eugenically altared children to life
But you’re quite right- He may have a purpose for those children and they will spend eternity in heaven with Him.

As for NFP- yes, dh and I do use it and love it even though we’re not Catholic(yet).
I like you married at 37, had my first at 38 and second at 40, then two m/c after that. Then I started using NFP and found my hormones were out of whack ( hence probably reasons for m./c)
I took progesterone supp. for awhile, can’'t afford any more- we never did conceive again. My advanced age is probably the reason(over 45).

 

[mosher]

God has two “aspects” to His will. The first is the active will that we are all familiar with. The second is His permissive will which is usually forgotten. God permitts things to happen that are not in accord with His active or positive will to allow for human freedom. Apart from the gift of His Son the giftof human freedom is the greatest gift God gave us. Without this permissive will we would not be free to love Him and choose Him as He desires. This is why all bad things happen … God loves us so much He permits us to do bad things.