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When God knows that they would suffer for eternity? Or would the damned enjoy their afterlife for eternity too?
Why do you think they don’t know? The people in Hell do not end up there accidentally. Quite the contrary, it’s very deliberate.Would people in heaven enjoy their happiness while they’re knowing that there is people who staying outside of heaven and suffering?
Not necessarily. God gives us every chance to repent before we die, whether it’s as that car is heading right towards us, or a church with confession open on the way there.Deliberate? That’s what i think but this would rule out the hypothesis that someone can just “happen” to die in mortal sin. If damnation is deliberate, final impenitence needs to be a willful choice, not something that maybe “happens” to you because a coked out drug addict ran you down with his car while you were in mortal sin.
Again, we are given every chance. Even if we die “suddenly”. How that works, I admit, I don’t know, but God would not be merciful if such a chance was not extended either way.@Fauken
Before we die, of course, but if you die suddenly repentance is not possible. At least if the traditional understanding of death is true which i don’t believe it is.
Can you provide a quote for this traditional understanding?Well, that’s quite different from the traditional understanding.
And from that sermon:“From all this can you now have any doubt that God wishes to save you? From this moment onward never dare to utter again: ’ wonder does God wish to save me. Maybe He wishes to see me damned on account of the sins I have committed against Him.’ Get rid of all such thoughts, once and for all, since you must now realize that God is helping you with His graces and calling you insistently to love Him.”
St. Alphonsus Liguori is a Doctor of the Church, but he does not decide doctrine nor how mercy works. If anything it looks like that sermon was about obstinate unrepentance and not God trying to hit us while we’re down.“God is ready to heal those who sincerely wish to amend their lives, but cannot take pity on the obstinate sinner. The Lord pardons sins, but He cannot pardon those who are determined to offend Him.”