Why does God want his Saints to suffer?

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Can a person run away from becoming a saint ? Or can grace be too strong to resist? Like for example, let’s say you pray often and attend mass. God reveals to you he wants you to travel somewhere. What if you resist and never do it?
It seems like the closer you draw to Christ - the more you suffer, the less appealing your sins become, the more you see yourself for who you are (sometimes it can be unappealing reflection)
 
Can a person run away from becoming a saint ? Or can grace be too strong to resist? Like for example, let’s say you pray often and attend mass. God reveals to you he wants you to travel somewhere. What if you resist and never do it?
It seems like the closer you draw to Christ - the more you suffer, the less appealing your sins become, the more you see yourself for who you are (sometimes it can be unappealing reflection)
God wants to give His saints the greatest joy they could ever experience on earth and in Heaven.
Whatever God.calls you specifically to do will give you the greatest joy because it will fit your personality and talents. Eg singer, lawyer, shopkeeper, he has a mission you will love. He will not ask you to do something he has not given you the ability to do.

Whether you are a saint or a sinner. You will still experience some suffering in this life.

Which is better to face it with?
With God in joy. And gain Heaven.
Or with satan and no hope? And gain Hell. Satan treats his own servants with contempt, and punishes them.

God wishes to give us great blessing on earth.

God blesses His servants on earth in EVERY way.
It is God who has given you all you have.
 
Can a person run away from becoming a saint ? Or can grace be too strong to resist? Like for example, let’s say you pray often and attend mass. God reveals to you he wants you to travel somewhere. What if you resist and never do it?
It seems like the closer you draw to Christ - the more you suffer, the less appealing your sins become, the more you see yourself for who you are (sometimes it can be unappealing reflection)
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Part of why we need to suffer is to shorten our time in Purgatory. We all have sinned, and penance is more than a Pater and an Ave (and Our Father and a Hail Mary). Suffering, borne with love, is of such a great value. Suffering purifies our soul, much like metals being tested in fire. It makes us worthy, by God’s grace, to enter Heaven and spend eternity with Him.
It seems like the closer you draw to Christ - the more you suffer, the less appealing your sins become, the more you see yourself for who you are (sometimes it can be unappealing reflection)
You’ve hit the nail on the head here! 👍
 
Suffering is how we are tested and purified, and ultimately strengthened by “what doesn’t kill us”.

Jesus suffered “for our sins” so that we don’t have to. In this world, we must pay for our “crimes” – but if we think we have to pay for our “sins” then we haven’t accepted that Jesus already took care of that. We “repent” from our sins by honest resolve to change ourselves for the better. Jesus “paid” for them so that we can be “forgiven” of them.

It’d be like if a friend in front of you tells the movie ticket attendant, “I’m getting both of ours,” and gets two tickets, and I say, “just to be sure I’d better pay for my own.” So how much does that make the friend’s gift worth?

Suffering is like how we feel when the world runs us through its obstacle course of mainly nonsense, so that we may become anxious, depressed, or whatever. We also know that suffering is not something that God the Father is too picky about. He sends sun and rain on both the righteous and unrighteous, and Job suffered more than anybody else and he was of great faith.

So to me, “suffering” for retribution of sins is what Jesus came to protect us from, because the wages of sin is death. He came so we may be born again.

So what about practical uses of suffering? Just like an army boot camp – get used to dealing with enough **** day after day, and soon the “real world” starts to smell like roses. This comes across to me as similar to the Dark Night, and as others have mentioned that is a way of getting a “head start” on purgatory.

The false self says, “when things are in order, I will find peace.” Our True Selves, speaking in the in spirit, would maybe say, “when I find peace, things will be in order.”

The peace of Christ is not like the world can give; the world can only give comfort, which is conditional and temporary. For “peace” to be of value, it has to stay with us during both times of worldly comfort, and times of being tested by the world.

James 1:2-8
2 Consider it all joy, my brothers, when you encounter various trials, 3 for you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance. 4 And let perseverance be perfect, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing. 5 But if any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God who gives to all generously and ungrudgingly, and he will be given it. 6 But he should ask in faith, not doubting, for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed about by the wind. 7 For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord, 8 since he is a man of two minds, unstable in all his ways.
 
It’s a myth to believe that only the saints suffer.

Everyone suffers on this earth, the difference between saints and everyone else, is that they link their suffering to the passion of Jesus Christ.

Also, the greatest suffering saints go through is the dark night of the soul where their faith is tested greatly while here on earth.

Jim
 
This ^^^^ Jim said it best.

God doesn’t want anyone to suffer.
How we deal with our inevitable suffering is what makes people saintly.
 
Why does God want his saints to suffer?

From their own thoughts, a lot of the suffering is what they desire, for they see suffering as a great way to show their love. So sometimes they have been denied to suffer more by their spiritual director. They want to suffer more and more because they love Jesus and crave to love him. It isn’t forced but chosen since they see it for what it is.

To the average “6 packer”, this makes no sense. God loves them too, but they only see the Budwiser in front of them and the tv screen. (Now I will take a blast from the “prejudgers”.) But then if the truth were known that is where it started for a lot of us, or at one time or another.

May God bless us every one.
 
Matthew 16:24
Then Jesus said to his disciples, "Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me.
Matthew 10:38
Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me.
1 Peter 2:21
To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.
What is a saint? A saint is someone who enjoys the beatific vision. Can you run away from being a saint? Yes— but that would involve The Bad Place. In Heaven, everyone is perfectly happy, but, say, Mother Teresa’s capacity for happiness is more like Shamu’s tank, and perhaps someone else’s capacity for happiness is like a sake cup. Both are filled to the brim, but the capacities are not equal.

So can someone have challenges placed in their path? Opportunities for developing charity, patience, understanding, compassion, humility? Can people ignore those opportunities? Of course people can fail… the Bible is full of people who failed. But it’s also full of people who recognized that failure, and redoubled their efforts to become far greater people than who they were at the time of their failure.

The “Interior Castle” by Teresa of Avila is an excellent book if you haven’t read it. Read it, and see where you’ve been, where you are, things in the future that you’ve had glimpses of, and so on. For me, it became too abstract beyond a certain point, so I never finished it… but it’s certainly a valuable read, especially for someone who is able to perceive themselves through the eyes of God, versus through the eyes of men.
 
Can a person run away from becoming a saint ?
Yes, you can run away from becoming a saint. Take into consideration, though, that only saints are in heaven so those who don’t become saints go to the other place instead.
 
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