Why does Moses permit killing after he received the Ten Commandments

[Mboo]

The human that God loved more than all the others and far away is his Son Jesus. And he allowed that his Son would be condemned to death in the most ignominious way. God also loved many other martyrs, but he allowed them to be condemned to horrific mortal tortures.
Your conception of love is the humanist, who aims for the actual well-being of man, while the Love of God, also called charity, aims at the greater glory of God and the salvation of man.
Now the greatest glory of God and our salvation, are obtained by our own sacrifice of our present well-being for love of God.

 

[meltzerboy2]

Such extreme punishment is a LAST resort, not a first one. The rules of punishment in Judaism have a very high bar: two valid eyewitnesses to a crime, understanding that one is committing a crime, and so on. Thus the laws are on the books, so to speak, but very rarely implemented. They serve as a deterrent to committing such deeds more than as an enforcement for deeds that have been committed.

 

[meltzerboy2]

The correct translation of the commandment is “Thou shalt not murder,” not “Thou shalt not kill.”

 

[phil19034]

In the United States, capital punishment might have been morally permissible at some point in time but its most likely immoral nowadays. Popes have said if Capital punishment was the only way of keeping others safe from a person who wouldn’t try to stop killing, it could be justified … but in todays day and age, our jail systems are secure enough to protect the community and general prison population and guards from a person like this. Capital punishment might be morally permissible in a country that cannot properly segregate a criminal like this, but Its 100% immoral in the United states, according to any of the previous popes.

I don’t think capital punishment in the US is “immoral” per say. It’s an issue that up to the individual states.

It could be argued that some states don’t use it enough while others use it too much.

One of the purposes of capital punishment was to prevent criminals from gaining allies in prison.

Today, in some prisons that happens far too much. Some people go to jail and come out more dangerous.

 

[Mboo]

for a death-row prisoner, the proximity of death, and the fact that he has almost no hope of enjoying earthly happiness, gives him a great opportunity to turn totally to God. And accepting in justice his pain , he expiates on earth the eternal punishment due to his sin, and finally he has the privilege as the good thief, to meet Jesus in the sacrament of reconciliation, then in the holy viaticum just before dying.
What gives us the most chance to convert: Living as long as possible in the joys or monotony of the world, or knowing that death is very close without the possibility of still enjoying the joys of the world?
By living as long as possible in the monotony of the world, we move away from God by increasing sin over sin, or we get closer to God?
In my opinion, the current vision of the Church on the death penalty is corrupted by the humanist vision of happiness.

 

[Monica83]

Because the actual Hebrew translation is “Thou Shall Not Murder”.

 

[Aulef]

It looks like there were some concessions when Moses wrote Deuteronomy. But God didn’t exactly command them. He only tolerated it.

Our Lord Jesus Christ speaks about one of these concessions and explains that they were allowed by God for some time because of the hardness of men’s heart

 

[Tatum]

I think that simply because a principle is accepted (that the State may kill under certain conditions) would not mean that all such decisions are to be considered objectively moral carte blanche.

It can surely be argued that there are certain types of State Killings that are not morally defensible…as recent Pope’s are signalling. Namely those where life imprisonment is now a reasonable option. This appears to be a recent mass phenomenon made possible by the efficiencies of capitalism and the independence of the judiciary.

I see this topic has been argued extensively on CAF last year and this seems a very sound premise.