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CMatt25
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Took awhile but glad you finally understand how my ID stands. So now you can go about discussing HIM not us.
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CMatt25
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Darron, like Tweety I have. And I suspect others have taken the time to as well. Don’t worry. I don’t see hate or lies from you. Peace.
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fbl9
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According to your words CMATT25 all this is the truth.
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Protestant101
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So far; you haven’t corrected anyone; you have just called them names. Actually; I don’t count people like you as true Catholics. I have learned NOTHING about Catholicism from you…but I have learned other things. Not sure if I’ll write home to Mom about what I have learned though. I feel nothing but hatred and venom from you - and you have the nerve to call what you do “truth.” Hmmmmaybe you are just showing us what not to do?
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Protestant101
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The authority for the Church is the Word of God. All “Tradition” is derived from His written Word. If the tradition you speak of is not in the Bible; then it has no authority but the Church; but the church’s authority is never portrayed as separate from that of God’s Word. These two authorities are one and the same, and never independent of the other.
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mariahloves
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I’m sorry, I don’t get what you mean? Did something happen on this thread? Because I haven’t read it all yetYes Mariah, but when I explain about honoring and remembering Mary, not worshiping statues or explain how an indulgence does not save but lessens the purgatorial punishment of sin aleady forgiven as the Catholic Church teaches, I am still accused of hate.
Dude, I always feel misunderstood on here…I was repling to the OP…the title of the thread is why does one hate the Catholic Church, I was just using the word he was using. I’m ex SDA btw, we have common ground
sorry for the misunderstandingHi…well I used to be a SDA and we used to have like “special” Sabbaths where elders/pastor would make powerpoint presentations about how the CC is pagan, the whore of Babylon, it’s corrupt, bishops and whatnot are only in it for the money (LOL…seriously), the pope is the anti-Christ, all that stuff and I had been reading some anti-Catholic stuff on the internet but for some reason one day it clicked and I was like this can’t be true there’s no way they blatantly do unChristian things so I looked into it and did my researched and prayed and became convinced that the CC is the one true church founded by Jesus Christ, the more I know and understand the doctrines the more I believe so now I’m in RCIA and I’ll be baptised Easter
also my grandma will be confirmed in the Church as well
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Protestant101
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No problem on my end. I am not aware of anything that you did wrong.Dude, I always feel misunderstood on here…I was repling to the OP…the title of the thread is why does one hate the Catholic Church, I was just using the word he was using. I’m ex SDA btw, we have common ground
I will say though that by your post above I can see you have had some big changes in your spiritual life and beliefs. And since this topic is about why people supposedly hate the Catholic Church, can you honestly say that you really hated them when you believed certain teachings about antichrist, mark of the beast, etc?
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mariahloves
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No I never hated them at all! I believe my feelings were something along the lines of “man they’re messed up” maybe not using such polite words, lol. But fortunately now I see the error in that, but never hatred. And I don’t think most people who are against or in disagreement with the CC actually hate either
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CMatt25
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The SDAs I know don’t hate Catholic people.
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mariahloves
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No they don’t but there is a little too much negative focus for my comfort. I mean I’m not talking about one specific SDA church, I’m talking about several…they also had alot of anti-Catholic like pamphlets and stuff. It was kind of strange maybe it’s just my area 
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Protestant101
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Thats the only point I was trying to make and it is good to see someone who was an Adventist come out and say that. Hatred is rarely a part of it.
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Protestant101
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I don’t look at it, when correctly understood, as any more negative than anyone else who disagrees with one another. It’s not necessarily 'wrong" or “hate” when we feel that a belief is not from God, and that the devil is behind that belief. Catholics do it all the time too. Thats what this forum is all about; and there are only a few here whom I really feel hate me. Most of them are just trying to do like me and stand up for what they believe. They have done nothing at all to offend me.No they don’t but there is a little too much negative focus for my comfort. I mean I’m not talking about one specific SDA church, I’m talking about several…they also had alot of anti-Catholic like pamphlets and stuff. It was kind of strange maybe it’s just my area
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mariahloves
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Yeah but like when you’re talking about someone being the anti-Christ, to me that’s the worst thing you could ever be called or accused of. You’ve got to admit, it’s a bit of a different situation than say someone thinking baptism is symbolic and disagreeing with the Catholic view of it, n’est-ce pas?
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Interesting conversations. First off, how are we building the church by saying one is going to hell when a human really doesn’t know your state of salvation? Many catholics will say that because you are not catholic, yet the Vatican has recognized that their is salvation outside the catholic church. Well, from my experience going to a catholic church for the past six months, the clergy (my priest) has a very strong understanding of biblical truth, but many of the catholics who fill the pews aren’t very sound when it comes to biblical knowledge. Example:
How do you receive salvation?
Catholic Answer: Through Jesus Christ and good works.
Lutheran Answer: Through Jesus Christ alone, the good works are a result of true received salvation (result of truly received salvation, not another condition of salvation).
The above answer “Catholic Response” was from a real nice gentleman who believes good works is also part of the salvation process. Scripturally incorrect per the book of James, as he was incorrectly using to explain the “Good Works” book of the New Testament.
Christianity is not a “works” based faith. Yet, many in the Catholic church really believe this to be another needed step for salvation. Why?? Many Catholics, just don’t break open the Holy Bible and read it. The only time they hear scripture is when the priest reads it during mass. “But I’m in Church five days a week”? How can you progress if you are not feeding yourself with the word of God daily? What I agree with in the Catholic Church:
- Mary is the mother of the God the son (second person in the Trinity/Godhead).
- Eucharist (actual presents of Christ through his flesh and blood).
- Not a big statue kind of guy myself. Many Catholics say it is visual aid and that they are not being worshipped, but do we really know what the actual people looked like? The cruxification, yes I believe is needed, yet the the true image of Christ Jesus is not known.
- Zero to very little evangelizing or spreading/testifying of our Savior Jesus Christ. What is up with that anyway?
- I accept and believe that Mother Mary is the most rightous woman who ever walked the earth and she should always be in our minds thanking her for bringing forth our Lord and Savior, but it gets a little extreme in some cases. Sometimes it appears She may be presented as just as important as Jesus.
- Why aren’t clergy correcting Catholics with flawed perceptions about the works needed for salvation along with accepting Christ Jesus?
How many Catholics due you know have spoken in tongues (or at least claim it). A great gift from God, that in many cases is taken out of context in the Holy Bible. Is the bible alone good enough for God our Father?
Have a great day and May Christ be with you.
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Protestant101
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Well; I don’t care to change anyone’s mind on this. I can only say what I know and believe. I see many of the views of the Catholic Church as pretty well equal to the worst of our’s you could name. But it’s all in how people choose to react to other beliefs. You can call it “hate” or you can call it what it actually is, which in 99% of cases is the opposite of hate, There isn’t a Catholic on this earth or on this forum who wouldn’t try to warn me if they thought something I believed was of the devil. And some have already tried. Do I look at that as “hate,” or do I choose to see it as them being concerned, and having a love for my soul? I have chosen to believe the latter; and I don’t see why Catholics cannot do the same - in fact I know many that do. That’s why I have been on this forum for 4 years.Yeah but like when you’re talking about someone being the anti-Christ, to me that’s the worst thing you could ever be called or accused of. You’ve got to admit, it’s a bit of a different situation than say someone thinking baptism is symbolic and disagreeing with the Catholic view of it, n’est-ce pas?
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elvisman
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If you haven’t klearned anything about Catholicism from me or anybody else here - it because you have closed your mind and your heart to the truth.
I am not offering my own opnions here - just the facts as taught by the Church.
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tweetymom
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I for one do not hate you. I consider you a dear brother in Christ. What we all need to do is stand up for Jesus, not al the yadayada. Love is the most important thing we should show to one another. Sometimes not enough of it is shown here as well as in our world.
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fbl9
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Do you hate these parctices/beleifs of the Chruch, which, according to SDA teachings, lead people to hell.
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elvisman
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Read post #185.
**I rest my case.
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