Why does the US and so many of its citizens continue to support the death penalty?

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A criminal on death row has ample opportunity to repent and be forgiven should they choose to do so. I find no moral issue with the death penalty.
 
And what is the percentage of African Americans that live in poverty? Those in poverty are more likely to commit crimes. It’s not a black and white world
 
Really. Do you think anyone goes to hell or us everyone saved because no one is evil?
 
But we have to understand why people do it. It has nothing to do with race.
 
Someone who commits moral sin isn’t evil, they just did an evil thing. If someone was evil then they weren’t created in the image and likeness of God
 
do_justly_love_mercy said:
Is anybody able to provide any suggestions as to why the United States is so resistant toward the idea of abolishing the death penalty,
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The death penalty is largely a State issue. The exception is with federal crimes, in which case the federal death penalty was only reinstated in July of 2019 after a 16 year moratorium. So your question should really be framed differently.

Some States have abolished the death penalty. Some have not. For those here who are not familiar with the way the US is framed, think of the States as separate countries that are unified under a Constitutional umbrella. The States are largely free to run their business the way they want. At least, that’s the way it was intended to be.
 
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No because CCC 2267 is explicitly directed to “safeguarding the common good” which is the secondary (2) justification in Roman Catechism of Trent, thus doesn’t even discuss , let alone abrogate the primary (1) justification above (retribution)
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What is your basis for this conclusion? It is certainly not the way the Pope or the Vatican has explained it. The Catechism is very clear, and obviously authoritative. Can you point to some other authority to support your claim?
 
African-Americans are about 13% of the general US population, but commit half the murders.

Yet slightly over half of those who receive the DP are white.
 
10% of white people are below the poverty line, and 20% of black people do. Doesn’t account for 12% of the population committing +50% of the violent crime. Especially since like 25% of native Americans are in poverty, and we don’t see the same super high crime rate.

That being said, were pretty far off topic.
 
No one is created evil. But people have free will to become evil. Your position can never be reconciled to reality.
 
Romans 13:

Let every soul be subject to higher powers: for there is no power but from God: and those that are, are ordained of God. Therefore he that resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God. And they that resist, purchase to themselves damnation. For princes are not a terror to the good work, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? Do that which is good: and thou shalt have praise from the same. For he is God’s minister to thee, for good. But if thou do that which is evil, fear: for he beareth not the sword in vain. For he is God’s minister: an avenger to execute wrath upon him that doth evil. Wherefore be subject of necessity, not only for wrath, but also for conscience’ sake.
 
The only reason I’m “against” death penalty is because of Pope Francis’s prudential judgement on the matter. But inside, I’m not…
 
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Can you point to some other authority to support your claim?
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The Catechism of Trent is the authority as is the rule on doctrinal abrogation. This was discussed at length on Trent Horn podcast, you should listen to it. It’s under death penalty
 
Aquinas11 said:
The Catechism of Trent is the authority as is the rule on doctrinal abrogation. This was discussed at length on Trent Horn podcast, you should listen to it. It’s under death penalty
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So the current Catechism lacks authority? Are you denying the teaching authority of the current Magisterium? You can certainly disagree with the Church, but how do you deny the Church’s authority to define its own teaching?
 
I explained my position on current CCC , see (1) and (2) above. Not going to repeat myself
 
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