"Why does there have to be a God?"

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This question was posed to me on Facebook…

"Paul, why does there have to be a God, just because things are pretty cool, surely people can just accept that things are pretty awesome without having to have a reason as to why they are so cool. If people really deep down thought that god controlled everything, then we wouldn’t have hospitals, why not just deal with what you are given.

How can you say that science doesn’t disprove God, it glorifies him? (surely a her). Science is pretty amazing stuff. What proof do you have that there is a god?"

What is a good response?
 
NolePaul2009 said:
This question was posed to me on Facebook…

"Paul, why does there have to be a God, just because things are pretty cool, surely people can just accept that things are pretty awesome without having to have a reason as to why they are so cool. If people really deep down thought that god controlled everything, then we wouldn’t have hospitals, why not just deal with what you are given.

How can you say that science doesn’t disprove God, it glorifies him? (surely a her). Science is pretty amazing stuff. What proof do you have that there is a god?"

What is a good response?
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Something can not come from nothing. There must be a first cause for the universe, that first cause is God.

God Bless
 
I Read A Story, It Goes That Isaac Newton Showed His Scientist Friend A Model Of The Solar System. Which Was Very Much Like The Real Thing, Scientifically Speaking!the Friend Came To The Same Conclusion As You. That It Was Cool.awesome!! But For Any Scientist It Does Beg The Question.and The Scientist Did Ask… Who Made It?ofcourse Isaac Answered No One Did. It Just Is! The Scientist Begun To Do Measurments And Found It To Be Mathematically Beautiful!! He Asked Again. Who Made It? Isaac Again Said No One Did.so The Friend Grew Frustrated And Said Thats Impossible!some One Had To Have Made It!!but Isaac Said Nah!! It Just Is.by Chance!!the Scientist Said Non Sense Some One Must Of Made It.some Thing Of Such Mathematical Accuracy Cant Just Appear!! Isaac Then Said Okidoki!so What You Telling Me Is That Some One Had To Have Made This… But The Real Thing Much More Complex In Magnitude And Beauty Has No Creater?is That Not Strange Or What?
 
bilop said:
Something can not come from nothing. There must be a first cause for the universe, that first cause is God.

God Bless
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That’s no proof of the very specifically described God of Catholicism.​

Maybe some other god’s responsible for the universe anyway - or array of gods. Why not ?
 
NolePaul2009 said:
This question was posed to me on Facebook…

"Paul, why does there have to be a God, just because things are pretty cool, surely people can just accept that things are pretty awesome without having to have a reason as to why they are so cool. If people really deep down thought that god controlled everything, then we wouldn’t have hospitals, why not just deal with what you are given.

How can you say that science doesn’t disprove God, it glorifies him? (surely a her). Science is pretty amazing stuff. What proof do you have that there is a god?"

What is a good response?
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“do you play poker?”

anyone that disinterested in their environment should be taken advantage of immediately!😃
 
NolePaul2009 said:
This question was posed to me on Facebook…

"Paul, why does there have to be a God, just because things are pretty cool, surely people can just accept that things are pretty awesome without having to have a reason as to why they are so cool. If people really deep down thought that god controlled everything, then we wouldn’t have hospitals, why not just deal with what you are given.

How can you say that science doesn’t disprove God, it glorifies him? (surely a her). Science is pretty amazing stuff. What proof do you have that there is a god?"

What is a good response?
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1st answer.

There doesn’t “have” to be a God.

2nd Answer.

There is no proof.

Believe it or not, you answer the questions honestly and you may get a smigdgeon of curiousity headed your way. Don’t try and invent answers.

There doesn’t need to be a God to explain things, we can simply say we don’t know. And there isn’t any “proof” of a god, and there is even less “proof” that a particular understanding of God is correct. So what?

If a person is an athiest they have already accepted these conclusions. It doesn’t hurt to acknolwege them.
 
Dameedna said:
There is no proof.
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What about the existence of our conscience? It seems strange (to me at least) that something like moral awareness would “evolve” randomly in a purely materialistic universe as imagined by atheists.
 
Regarding the question: Why does there have to be a God?

There has to be a God because there has to be Love and Truth in this world (we Catholics believe God is Love and Truth), otherwise there is hatred and deception with nothing good in this life to save us…and we can only imagine how evil and harmful a world filled with hatred and deception without love and truth would be. A brutal hellish experience.
 
ready said:
Regarding the question: Why does there have to be a God?

There has to be a God because there has to be Love and Truth in this world (we Catholics believe God is Love and Truth), otherwise there is hatred and deception with nothing good in this life to save us…and we can only imagine how evil and harmful a world filled with hatred and deception without love and truth would be. A brutal hellish experience.
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Furthermore, if you reject the existence of God, who is all good, you also necessarily reject the existence of evil, which is the absence of good. Evil obviously exists; just open a newspaper. How does an atheist account for the existence of evil? He cannot, therefore he willy-nilly goes into the arms of moral relativism and cannot logically take a strong moral stand on anything.
 
Dameedna said:
1st answer.

There doesn’t “have” to be a God.

2nd Answer.

There is no proof.

Believe it or not, you answer the questions honestly and you may get a smigdgeon of curiousity headed your way. Don’t try and invent answers.

There doesn’t need to be a God to explain things, we can simply say we don’t know. And there isn’t any “proof” of a god, and there is even less “proof” that a particular understanding of God is correct. So what?

If a person is an athiest they have already accepted these conclusions. It doesn’t hurt to acknolwege them.
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Just FYI people don’t believe in God just because they don’t understand something, or as a way to explain something.
 
tomarin said:
Furthermore, if you reject the existence of God, who is all good, you also necessarily reject the existence of evil, which is the absence of good. Evil obviously exists; just open a newspaper. How does an atheist account for the existence of evil? He cannot, therefore he willy-nilly goes into the arms of moral relativism and cannot logically take a strong moral stand on anything.
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Ah yes, the “Wishful Thinking” proof of God.
 
Ask his/her definition of proof. Evidence and proof are different things and not everyone accepts everyone else’s evidence. I have copious evidence that I clean around here, but I can’t prove it – no one is usually here when I get to it and then it gets messed up again immediately. Similarly, miracles happen all the time. But not every skeptic sees them and gets convinced. The universe and science are wondrous and glorious. This does glorify God, and in no way whatever conflicts with belief in God as we know Him. Many, many physicists, biologists and mathematicians, chemists and astronomers and cosmologists are believers in God. A huge number are Christian. A gigantic number are even catholic. But they don’t have to be. The universe on every scale, astronomical, geological, biological, chemical, and subatomic, gives evidence for God but little in the way of total proof. What we have is a preponderance of evidence. The case for faith is currently a civil case. But that will change – and the defendant will be the individual mortal human being. Right now, though, ask for a standard and definitoon of “proof” for this discussion.
 
These are old questions…putting the ‘proff’ bit onto your shoulders. Humans without a Creator ,who left us lesson plans like the Ten commandments,tend to worship the state instead. This has proven disasterous down thru the years…Sig Heil …the state,all for the state etc’ means no one is free…no one can be un-PC…and there is no such thing as love of neighbor as thy self.rather if the state permits it one can maybe give a stale sandwich to a neighbor not out of love and concern but only in front of a camera!.and of course a secular humanistic culture is one of trinket buying…maxing out ones credit card and bad habits like booze,drugs etc…for after all…if this earth is all there is…then eat,drink and be merry for tomorrow its kaput!..the ‘right to life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness’ is the credo of a nation acknowledging a superior Being to be followed…it will be chaos and disaster for any to not follow that credo…
 
tomarin said:
What about the existence of our conscience? It seems strange (to me at least) that something like moral awareness would “evolve” randomly in a purely materialistic universe as imagined by atheists.
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There are mysteries if one is a Christian, & if one is an atheist, & in other positions. Neither POV can be disqualified on the ground that it fails to answer all puzzles, because other POVs also leave various thing as puzzles, as unexplained.​

An Epicurean would probably say that the conscience is composed of exeedingly fine atoms. Is there such a “thing” as conscience ? It might be no more than a disturbance in brain electricity, or something equally obscure and equally reducible to what we are composed of. 🤷 It doesn’t have to be spiritual, or even a real entity. It may be a relation between entities.
 
Why does there have to be a universe that is infinite and eternal? Prove it!
 
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