Why doesn't God "hard wire" absolute knowledge of his existence in us to know he exists?

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One question that kind of lingers when it comes to the problem of evil is why does God allow man to have to live by faith. Why can’t he just give every one certainty that he is the Way, the Life, and the Truth.

Why can’t God just “hard wire” into everyone an absolutely clear insight that leaves no doubt whatsoever in our minds that he exists…and then gives us the free choice to still want to love him or not (kind of like how the angels in Heaven had perfect certainty of him but still reblled against him anyway)? Wouldn’t that make him more perfect instead of leaving it up to us to figure it out on our own?

Why do we have to live by faith and risk falling into erroneous beliefs that will damn us and cause us to do evil?
 
One question that kind of lingers when it comes to the problem of evil is why does God allow man to have to live by faith. Why can’t he just give every one certainty that he is the Way, the Life, and the Truth.

Why can’t God just “hard wire” into everyone an absolutely clear insight that leaves no doubt whatsoever in our minds that he exists…and then gives us the free choice to still want to love him or not (kind of like how the angels in Heaven had perfect certainty of him but still reblled against him anyway)? Wouldn’t that make him more perfect instead of leaving it up to us to figure it out on our own?

Why do we have to live by faith and risk falling into erroneous beliefs that will damn us and cause us to do evil?
“Hard wired” does not equal free will. It’s really just that simple.
 
“Hard wired” does not equal free will. It’s really just that simple.
I think the better answer is that He didn’t because it wouldn’t achieve the affect of ensuring no one would choose against Him, and it would also diminish our ability to chose Him freely.

We know that absolute knowledge of God wouldn’t remove our free will because the Angels had absolute knowledge of Him, and some of them still chose to reject Him. That being said, it would slightly diminish the freedom of choice.

To the OP, my personal opinion on the matter is that it’s because our love given in faith is superior to a love given through knowledge. If we KNOW He exists, then there is no faith, only knowledge. While that knowledge can result in a positive type of love, I would argue that the love given through faith is the greater love. If we love Him more, then He is able to reciprocate to a greater degree.

Ultimately, those who attain the Beatific Vision through faith will have a greater capacity to love God than had they simple made a choice based on their knowledge of Him. In short, the gain (a greater love for God) is greater than what is lost (the temporal knowledge of His existence.) Even if this choice of faith over knowledge produces an infinitesimally small increase in our capacity to love Him, those who do so will be loving Him for eternity, so it will amount to a literally-infinite increase in our love for Him.

In response to the argument that if more people know Him, more people will chose Him, I wold point out that this is not necessarily true, and what evidence we do have on the subject actually contradicts that assumption.

All throughout scripture there have been people who know God in the absolute sense. Adam and Eve are a prime example of this. They knew God existed beyond any shadow of a doubt, and yet they still chose to sin. Similarly, let’s look at the Apostles. Judas Iscariot knew all that the other Apostles knew, he saw the same miracles, heard all the same teachings, and yet he still chose to reject Jesus. Consider Kings Saul, David, and Solomon. Each of them knew God intimately. They spoke with Him regularly at at least one point in their lives. Yet, of the three of them, two fell into grievous sin, and suffered greatly for it. There are many, many other examples of people who have direct knowledge of God’s existence ultimately seeming to reject Him.

So, what are we to make of this? Simply that knowledge of God does not increase the likelihood that someone will choose God.

What does that knowledge do?

It increases our culpability and our obligation to God.

Jesus Himself says that had He never preached, the people who rejected Him would not have sinned; however, since He did preach, their sin remains. (I apologize, I cannot remember the specific verse. Can someone help me out here?) This shows us that a greater degree of knowledge results in a greater obligation and culpability. (“To whom much is given, much will be expected.”). If it is the case that simply hearing the word of God makes us liable to judgment if we reject it, how much more severe would the punishment be if we KNOW God and still reject Him?

Taking all this into account, I would say that God’s decision not to make Himself absolutely know to us is more a gift than a curse. It allows those who do come to Him to have a greater love for Him, and it spares those who reject Him of an even greater eternal torment.

Edit: Ooh, this is post #5,000 for me. i think this is a pretty good on to hit a round number like that one. Woohoo!
 
I believe the soul is in the Truth of the existence of God. I am interacting with a firm unbeliever in even the existence of his own soul, God, evil. This person , now almost 60, has various likenesses of budda, the egyptian dog, indian/nepalese figurines surrounding him.

He can fall to rages of anger etc. But when I talk of God to him, the conversation stays a little normal for a time. If I pray when he is starting to rage, he shuts up, just stops, doesnt disconnect, just listens.

I believe this is his soul thirsting for the light.

He is quite sane and lucid, just has anger management problems.

I have faith he will continue to allow his soul some fresh air.
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We are all born with a potentially deadly condition called Original Sin. This includes everyone. The Bible tells us the spirit wars against the flesh. The mission of the Church is to spread the Gospel to the whole world and the laity are a part of that. We get to choose. There are Catholics who have left the faith, but it is never too late to come back.

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We know that absolute knowledge of God wouldn’t remove our free will because the Angels had absolute knowledge of Him, and some of them still chose to reject Him. That being said, it would slightly diminish the freedom of choice.
How would it diminish freedom of choice? It would merely allow us to make our choices based on better information.
 
How would it diminish freedom of choice? It would merely allow us to make our choices based on better information.
Because it makes me more of a choice based on fear of the consequences, farther than on love for Him. While that’s a fine place to start our journey towards loving God, it seems that it would make it more difficult to move beyond that step…

That’s just my opinion on the subject, and regardless of whether it does or doesn’t, that doesn’t change the rest of what I wrote.
 
Because it makes me more of a choice based on fear of the consequences, farther than on love for Him. While that’s a fine place to start our journey towards loving God, it seems that it would make it more difficult to move beyond that step…

That’s just my opinion on the subject, and regardless of whether it does or doesn’t, that doesn’t change the rest of what I wrote.
Sorry to disagree with your 5000th post, but I don’t really follow your logic. Are you saying that your “love” for God is somehow better due to the fact that you don’t have absolute knowledge of his existence? I would think the the opposite would be true.

But that’s just my opinion.

Congratulation on all the electrons you have donated to CAF.
 
Hard wiring is the instilling of instinct. It eliminates the potential for faith, or belief in the unseen. We have a craving to know the origin of things, and our intellect and will allow us to pursue it. But, it must be our by effort and not a simple response to an animal instinct.
 
Sorry to disagree with your 5000th post, but I don’t really follow your logic. Are you saying that your “love” for God is somehow better due to the fact that you don’t have absolute knowledge of his existence? I would think the the opposite would be true.

But that’s just my opinion.

Congratulation on all the electrons you have donated to CAF.
Yes, I do think that. The love born of faith is based on some degree of trust. A love born of knowledge isn’t, at least not in the same way.

In the end, I know He has a good reason for it, this is my understanding of what that good reason is.
 
Historically speaking, it looks like we are hardwired to believe in God, or at least in some form of divinity. In which case not to believe in God would be the delusion.
 
Sorry to disagree with your 5000th post, but I don’t really follow your logic. Are you saying that your “love” for God is somehow better due to the fact that you don’t have absolute knowledge of his existence? I would think the the opposite would be true.

But that’s just my opinion.

Congratulation on all the electrons you have donated to CAF.
“Thomas, you have faith because you have seen Me. Blessed are all those who never see Me and yet they still believe.”
John 20: 29
 
Adam & Eve were “hard wired” and they sinned the first chance they were tempted to disobey God.
 
One question that kind of lingers when it comes to the problem of evil is why does God allow man to have to live by faith. Why can’t he just give every one certainty that he is the Way, the Life, and the Truth.

Why can’t God just “hard wire” into everyone an absolutely clear insight that leaves no doubt whatsoever in our minds that he exists…and then gives us the free choice to still want to love him or not (kind of like how the angels in Heaven had perfect certainty of him but still reblled against him anyway)? Wouldn’t that make him more perfect instead of leaving it up to us to figure it out on our own?

Why do we have to live by faith and risk falling into erroneous beliefs that will damn us and cause us to do evil?
Human beings were created by the Creator as beings endowed with volitional consciousness; simply, we live by being confronted with alternatives and making a choice of our actions. The rest of created life lives by an automatic, unerring form of self-knowledge that acts for the good and the preservation of the creature; something called “instinct.”

Man, at least after reaching an age of reason where he/she realizes that choice must be made to live and thrive, does not have instinct. The creator made man in 'his image and likeness" because the creator desired a creature that would willingly choose to love his/her creator.

I am assuming that your “hard wiring” includes the knowledge of the consequences of rejecting the love of the creator?

To have a hard wired knowledge of God, would seriously impact our freedom of choice, our free will, and in general, “force” us to love God.

And what beloved wants a love that is coerced?
 
I guess Absolute Knowledge is a slightly different to Absolute Faith ,
Absolute Knowledge would mean you have seen or heard the actual word of God ,
or perhaps angels teaching you the truth etc ,
Whereas Absolute Faith is something that would be more of an instinct ,

We can’t be Hardwired with Absolute knowledge , simply because then we wouldn’t need to discover for ourselves , and therefore perhaps have a wrong attitude towards the world ,

Imagine a 15 year old with the Absolute Knowledge or all worldly things ,
You couldn’t learn by your mistakes , ,
if you never made mistakes in your life and in your faith,
Then how could you be tested in Fire ?
I am Hard Wired in my Faith , because of the path I had talked in my life,
I learnt the hard way, which has made me strong in my faith,
If I hadn’t fallen hurting myself , I would never have discovered for myself the Power and wisdom of God , I am much stronger now than if I were Hardwired in Absolute Knowledge
 
One question that kind of lingers when it comes to the problem of evil is why does God allow man to have to live by faith. Why can’t he just give every one certainty that he is the Way, the Life, and the Truth.

Why can’t God just “hard wire” into everyone an absolutely clear insight that leaves no doubt whatsoever in our minds that he exists…and then gives us the free choice to still want to love him or not (kind of like how the angels in Heaven had perfect certainty of him but still reblled against him anyway)? Wouldn’t that make him more perfect instead of leaving it up to us to figure it out on our own?

Why do we have to live by faith and risk falling into erroneous beliefs that will damn us and cause us to do evil?
Hi Ben Sinner,

I think Paul said He did.

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures. Romans 1
 
One question that kind of lingers when it comes to the problem of evil is why does God allow man to have to live by faith. Why can’t he just give every one certainty that he is the Way, the Life, and the Truth.

Why can’t God just “hard wire” into everyone an absolutely clear insight that leaves no doubt whatsoever in our minds that he exists…and then gives us the free choice to still want to love him or not (kind of like how the angels in Heaven had perfect certainty of him but still reblled against him anyway)? Wouldn’t that make him more perfect instead of leaving it up to us to figure it out on our own?

Why do we have to live by faith and risk falling into erroneous beliefs that will damn us and cause us to do evil?
The test for Adam was actually one of faith. Would he believe God’s word or not? To the extent that he disbelieved God, Adam rejected God as * God. We’re challenged here with the same test, except by now humanity has experienced the evil that results when God’s will no longer reigns in our lives and our world. We literally know* good and evil here, the good of existence and the good of the rest of God’s creation, and the evil of our own limitations as finite, fragile beings whose existence is not self-dependent, who can and will die, along with the evil of sin that we experience daily in this exile from perfect goodness.

That in itself should compel us to look more deeply for something beyond ourselves, something that we already have a sense of, Something familiar that we cannot quite touch and yet has to do with our very own substance. And yet Something that we also might have a sort of revulsion towards, preferring ourselves perhaps as the catechism teaches that Adam did, not so sure that we even want a superior being guiding us. There’s sort of an unspoken conspiracy against God IMO; we betray humanity somehow when we begin to draw near to Him. The struggle can also be characterized as one between pride and God.

But with the help of our experiences here, primarily the knowledge of good and evil, together with revelation and grace, we can begin to turn back home again, to, with help, “choose” faith, reversing the choice within ourselves that Adam made and thus participate in owning our justice, the justice that he forfeited.

Apparently God deemed it worthwhile that man should spend time in our exile here-and that exile would not be an authentic one unless for a struggle with certainty about His existence, because that’s where it all began-we’re exiled from Him. Someone once said that integrity is to do the right thing even when no one’s looking. The Master’s gone away, now, for all practical purposes. What will He find us doing when He returns?
 
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