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quasimodo
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that’s the question
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Vera_Ljuba
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Maybe they are just good buddies, who like to get together, drink some wine and make bets. You know, the story of poor Job.
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Wesrock
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Satan isn’t some source of evil. It’s like asking why God doesn’t obliterate every sinner in existence (aka: all of us).
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JapaneseKappa
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I mean, Satan was literally the instigator of original sin.
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Vonsalza
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Because he has a job to do, of course. He affects the reality in which you genuinely experience some degree of free moral agency…
If God is all-powerful, then anything that may run contra to God (prima facie) exists for a greater, more meta- purpose for that God.
Psalm 119:91, after all.
If God is all-powerful, then anything that may run contra to God (prima facie) exists for a greater, more meta- purpose for that God.
Psalm 119:91, after all.
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Wesrock
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Instigator, yes, but man had the capability to sin without him, and man had the capability to truly say no. Satan is a temptor. Satan has a will to do evil. But he isn’t evil incarnate (poetically, maybe he is, but not literally).
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Roseeurekacross
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God doesn’t get rid of any of His ensouled. Human and Angel creatures.
We either end up ultimately in Heaven with our Creator, or banished to hell.
We either end up ultimately in Heaven with our Creator, or banished to hell.
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JapaneseKappa
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Children have the ability to sin and say no and all that. But we still don’t hold them culpable when they are coerced by an adult into doing something wrong. We know that they are ignorant and that the adult has fully developed powers of persuasion and knowledge of what motivates children. Now of course Adam was an adult. But the devil is an angel. The devil does not grow old, or tired. The devil knows things Adam never can, even things about Adam.
Letting the devil “go to work” on Adam was like letting an adult convince a child to do something wrong, and being surprised when the adult succeeds.
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Wesrock
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That the devil’s intellectual powers were greater than Adam’s doesn’t mean that Adam himself lacked fully formed reasoning ability. While relatively much different, Adam absolutely was not a child in his decision making. Furthermore, Church teaching is that in those with original sin, our ability to subdue our animal appetites to reason is wounded, such that hunger, sexual appetite, mortality all pull on our decision making in a disordered way, leading us to poor decisions. Adam did not suffer that disadvantage and what partial excuse it affords him. And children are in a so.ewhat worse state, having these types of pressures, but lacking fully developed reasoning abilities to balance them (this isn’t to say they sin worse, as they can’t consent the way adults do, but that they are more easily lured). So the analogy, while maybe good in capturing the relative difference in intellect, doesn’t translate well as an excuse for Adam and Eve.
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Wesrock
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Speaking to the original question again, Vonsalza and Roseeurekacross made the two best points.
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ChurchSoldier
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He already has.
That’s the answer
In God’s kingdom there is no time. Read Revelation about what happens to Satan.
Satan’s destruction has not manifested itself to our perception as of yet because we live in a finite state of being, for the time being.
Great question though!
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mikekle
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Doesnt the church even admit it is a complete mystery why God permits the diabolical? If its a mystery to them, I doubt we could figure it out.
Personally I believe Satan is doing exactly what he was created for, one verse that says Satan must be released for a short time after being chained in the pit made me think…why MUST he be released again if not to serve some greater purpose?
Unfortunately for us to have free will, there must be an alternative to God (the other choice), satan serves this purpose. After getting booted from heaven, what better place to send him than down to earth, among us…God could have sent him DIRECTLY to hell, since it was created specifically for them, but he didnt…there is probably a good and complex reason as to why he did this.
Personally I believe Satan is doing exactly what he was created for, one verse that says Satan must be released for a short time after being chained in the pit made me think…why MUST he be released again if not to serve some greater purpose?
Unfortunately for us to have free will, there must be an alternative to God (the other choice), satan serves this purpose. After getting booted from heaven, what better place to send him than down to earth, among us…God could have sent him DIRECTLY to hell, since it was created specifically for them, but he didnt…there is probably a good and complex reason as to why he did this.
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brian_custer
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at the end of time, satan will be permanently entombed in the hell he has created; in the meantime, he has free will and the means of a very evil, yet powerful. spiritual being to tempt & create havoc in the world
which is coming to an end…
which is coming to an end…
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pablope
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That is because Satan, with his devilish mind, can turn that defeat to his advantage…meaning he will say/claim, he was defeated by a greater power that him…and so God know this…who is all wiser than Satan.
So the best way to defeat satan is to humiliate him…by turning away from satan and turning ourselves to God…and His Church…this is the best way to defeat and get rid of satan.
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MaryT777
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Good answer as well!~He already has.
That’s the answer
In God’s kingdom there is no time. Read Revelation about what happens to Satan.
Satan’s destruction has not manifested itself to our perception as of yet because we live in a finite state of being, for the time being.
Great question though!
Revelation 20:10/NAB
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The Devil who had led them astray was thrown into the pool of fire and sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet were. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
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ffg
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I’d say, he did.
But seemingly not in the way other sinners might think is right before they acknowledge, as sinners, they deserve the same.
This is where we thank God for time (to repent).
But seemingly not in the way other sinners might think is right before they acknowledge, as sinners, they deserve the same.
This is where we thank God for time (to repent).
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Dorothy
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You said it well! Satan and his cohorts are on a leash, so to speak. When God allows them to tempt us and we resist, we grow stronger spiritually. God uses them! We have all the means given to us by Our Lord Jesus Christ to overcome the world, the flesh, and the devil. Pray much!He already has.
That’s the answer
In God’s kingdom there is no time. Read Revelation about what happens to Satan.
Satan’s destruction has not manifested itself to our perception as of yet because we live in a finite state of being, for the time being.
Great question though!
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BrunoMaria
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If God just got rid of Satan, God had to extinguish him. But once you are immortal (we all are and so are Angels) you can’t die, because God made Angels and us immortal. Lucifer was an Angel. God banned him - first on earth, then into hell. The place all who rebell against God will land.
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mikekle
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But God did not send him to hell when he was cast out of heaven, he cast him down to earth, among us…why do you think that was done?
This would be like catching the fox trying to break into the hen house and locking him INSIDE the hen house as punishment…does that really make sense?
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Dorothy
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God is infinitely good. He makes sense as he has our salvation in mind. We don’t always “get it”.
Satan and his cohorts are on a leash…they tempt only as far as God lets them. The Lord gave us the perfect Way to make the right choices.
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