Why doesn't the CC in US used the RSV Bible instead of the NAB in their Liturgy?

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Since the Catholic RSV Bible is recommended by most theologians, and many Catholic Apologists, and its even used in the Navarre Bible Commentary, how come we don’t use the RSV Bible in our Liturgy?

Is it possible for the Church change this and make the RSV Catholic Bible the official Book use for Liturgical worship instead of the New American Bible?
 
I asked this once and was told by my priest that the NAB is used
“for liturgical purposes”
Not for study purposes.
 
Is it a copyright issue? The USCCB holds the copyright to the NAB.
 
Hellisreal said:
I asked this once and was told by my priest that the NAB is used
“for liturgical purposes”
Not for study purposes.
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That’s funny, my copy is called The Catholic Study Bible. Donald Senior call your office.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
Since the Catholic RSV Bible is recommended by most theologians, and many Catholic Apologists, and its even used in the Navarre Bible Commentary, how come we don’t use the RSV Bible in our Liturgy?
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Others can give you the history and some of the politics involved. One thing the NAB has going for it is its simplicity of translation. If you only had a 4th grade education, then years later moved to this country and learned some English, and are trying to stay awake during the Liturgy of the Word because of the two jobs you are working, you are likely to grasp a little more of the meaning of readings from the NAB than the RSV.
Is it possible for the Church change this and make the RSV Catholic Bible the official Book use for Liturgical worship instead of the New American Bible?
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Yes, although this would require a long tedious process of the USCCB approving the idea, creating new liturgical books based on the RSV-CE translation, and getting those approved by Rome. I think most bishops think there are bigger fish to fry, and are not likely to approve resources to travel down this road.
 
Digitonomy said:
Yes, although this would require a long tedious process of the USCCB approving the idea, creating new liturgical books based on the RSV-CE translation, and getting those approved by Rome. I think most bishops think there are bigger fish to fry, and are not likely to approve resources to travel down this road.
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There’s no more need to make new liturgical books. Ignatius Press already publishes a Lectionary based on the RSV-2nd CE. All the bishops need to do is say something to the effect of,

“Together with the current Lectionary based on the text of the New American Bible, we hereby also permit for liturgical use the Lectionary based on the text of the Second Catholic Edition of the Revised Standard Version.”

That’s it. Can be done in a day. The only resources they need are a few sheets of paper for the approval.
 
porthos11 said:
There’s no more need to make new liturgical books. Ignatius Press already publishes a Lectionary based on the RSV-2nd CE. All the bishops need to do is say something to the effect of…
That’s it. Can be done in a day.
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Don’t they need Vatican approval for use of the new lectionary at mass?
 
I believe Lectionaries based on the RSV-CE and the Jerusalem Bible could be used quite licitly in the USA in the past. There was a specific action within the last five or so years to limit it to lectionaries based on the NAB.
 
porthos11 said:
There’s no more need to make new liturgical books. Ignatius Press already publishes a Lectionary based on the RSV-2nd CE.
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Did Ignatius do this with a view toward getting approval for use in mass? Or is this used in other countries? If the latter, new Vatican approval shouldn’t be needed.

But if none of these is the case, why did Ignatius go to the expense of publishing a lectionary?
 
This might be a little bit OT, but the Byzantine Catholic Church in the United States uses the Ignatius Bible. Maybe that’s painting with a very broad brush, but all the parishes that I’ve attended use it, anyway. At the Roman indult Mass I play for, the priest reads the vernacular readings from the Douay-Rheims bible. So is anyone sure that the NAB actually has to be used in the first place? :rolleyes:
 
Mannyfit75 said:
Since the Catholic RSV Bible is recommended by most theologians, and many Catholic Apologists, and its even used in the Navarre Bible Commentary, how come we don’t use the RSV Bible in our Liturgy?

Is it possible for the Church change this and make the RSV Catholic Bible the official Book use for Liturgical worship instead of the New American Bible?
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As to your first question, I’d like to know also. It’s used in all of my bible studies, etc. It’s excellent.

As to your second question, I think all we can do is just hope the Bishops make that change. I imagine we’re allowed to write them. In the mean time, I’ll just keep reading it as my bible of choice at home. P.S., I use it when I do the scripture readings in RCIA as well. People seem to like it, and no one has said anything to me yet. It’s only required for liturgy, I believe.

What do they use in other English speaking countries for liturgy?

Canada, Australia, Belize, Great Britain, Ireland

I’m curious. Is it RSV in those countries?

Peace,

Steven
 
StevenFrancis said:
As to your first question, I’d like to know also. It’s used in all of my bible studies, etc. It’s excellent.

As to your second question, I think all we can do is just hope the Bishops make that change. I imagine we’re allowed to write them. In the mean time, I’ll just keep reading it as my bible of choice at home. P.S., I use it when I do the scripture readings in RCIA as well. People seem to like it, and no one has said anything to me yet. It’s only required for liturgy, I believe.

What do they use in other English speaking countries for liturgy?

Canada, Australia, Belize, Great Britain, Ireland

I’m curious. Is it RSV in those countries?

Peace,

Steven
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Steven,

I’m not sure about the Lectionary, but I do know that the other countries in the English speaking world are entitled to a MUCH better translation of the Divine Office, including the psalms, hynmody, and other readings. I know this because I have a copy of the Office printed for use in Great Britain, Ireland, Australia, and a handful of African nations. Canada and the US get short shrift, sadly.

I believe that it is possible to order it through Amazon.com. While not valid for public recitation in the United States, it is a GREAT breviary for people who wish to privately pray the new Liturgy of the Hours without the NAB’s nasty distractions.
 
Digitonomy said:
Did Ignatius do this with a view toward getting approval for use in mass? Or is this used in other countries? If the latter, new Vatican approval shouldn’t be needed.

But if none of these is the case, why did Ignatius go to the expense of publishing a lectionary?
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The Lectionary is approved for use in the Antilles. Those guys there are the luckiest. It’s approved by Rome, and adopted by the Antilles Episcopal Conference.

All the USCCB needs to to is just approve that lectionary for use too. They don’t have to rescind the NAB if they don’t want to.
 
porthos11 said:
The Lectionary is approved for use in the Antilles. Those guys there are the luckiest. It’s approved by Rome, and adopted by the Antilles Episcopal Conference.
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That is also the ONLY English Lectionary that was approved without any changes.
 
Brendan said:
That is also the ONLY English Lectionary that was approved without any changes.
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that’s right. It’s the only English lectionary in existence that fully matches a published Bible.

Does anyone on the forums have any pull with the USCCB’s Committee on Liturgy? Perhaps one can write them to approve the Ignatius RSV Lectionary alongside the NAB lectionary.

If they do that, then perhaps our own Episcopal Conference in the Philippines will more quickly follow suit.
 
In the Traditional Latin Mass. The Missals (1962) will be using the classic Douay Rheims for the english translation, which in my opinion is a far better and a more poetic translation than the NAB.
 
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