Why don't Catholics have Open Communion?

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This is not a fact, its a belief. The Anglican Church considers itself part of the one holy catholic and apostolic Church. By portraying your belief as fact you are misleading others.
The FACT is that the Catholic Church believes the Anglican church is NOT a part of it.
The Catholic Church alone is in a postion to decide its membership.
The Anglican church broke away from Catholicism and it remains separated today.
 
I see it as a family reunion where the host says don’t invite Uncle Chuck, Aunt Jackie, or Cousin Dave because they just won’t do what I want them to.
It is truly sad that you see it this way. Uncle Chuck, cousin Dave, and Aunt Jackie are all invited, but they choose to go to the neighbor’s reunion down the street. Only the separated brethren can choose to reunite, all we can do is invite.

The Eucharist is much more that “meaningful” as you put it. When I say “amen” as I receive Him, I say I would die to receive Him, and many have by saying this. This is the most “August” of sacraments that the Catholic Church through her ministers delivers to the faithful. That description is in Canon Law. The Eucharist is the summit of our worship and our lives as Catholics, as it should be because the Eucharist is Jesus! From the very beginning it is written that before one is to receive he must first be taught and come to believe.

All are welcome; some come home while others do not. If I invite you to come home and eat with us but when you sit to eat at my house I expect you to remove your hat. If you do not you may not be invited the next time, it is disrespectful. If you go to communion in the Catholic Church, chances are you will not be refused. Very seldom does this happen, the reason is simple, the minister most often has no idea who you are and whether you are able to receive. Therefore you are given communion.

But if you read 1 Corr. 11; 27-31, you will see there is scriptural basis for what the church teaches. If you see in Matt 18:18, whatever you (speaking to the apostles) bind on earth is bound in heaven, whatever you loose is loosed. The authority is given to the apostles to bind and loose. I believe the Church has the duty to keep the Eucharist as the most “August” of sacraments, with that come home and join in the Eucharistic bounty! If you choose to remain separate, then you are separate and not able to receive the Eucharist worthily. You can receive but it would not be a good idea for you, and it would be disrespectful.

But to say you are not welcome to come to mass is just not true.🙂
 
The FACT is that the Catholic Church believes the Anglican church is NOT a part of it.
The Catholic Church alone is in a postion to decide its membership.
The Anglican church broke away from Catholicism and it remains separated today.
Yes Catharina, but the Anglican Church alleges that they have maintained Apostolic Succession and in that sense are part of the universal church. Were you to ask them who are the modern day successors of the early Church I believe they would say
  1. the Roman Church
  2. the Eastern Church
  3. the Anglican Church
I believe I have seen that posted earlier on this forum.

When the Anglicans state they are part of the “one holy Catholic and Apostolic church” they are using the word “Catholic” in the sense of “universal”, not in the sense of being part of the Roman Catholic church.
 
This is not a fact, its a belief. The Anglican Church considers itself part of the one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
There are all kinds of issues with whether or not you have a valid priesthood - can Bishops from other religions have the proper intent, to ordain Anglican priests? (Anglican Bishops have no authority to ordain their own priests because of changes to the Anglican ceremony made by King Edward VI.)

Because of these questions, the Church errs on the side of caution, and does not allow anyone to partake of Anglican communion (which may not be valid, due to the “priest” possibly not being actually ordained; this also of course means that, quite probably, no Anglican has ever validly received Confirmation or First Holy Communion, which would be the reasons why they can’t receive Holy Communion in Catholic churches.)
 
Yes Catharina, but the Anglican Church alleges that they have maintained Apostolic Succession and in that sense are part of the universal church. Were you to ask them who are the modern day successors of the early Church I believe they would say
  1. the Roman Church
  2. the Eastern Church
  3. the Anglican Church
I believe I have seen that posted earlier on this forum.

When the Anglicans state they are part of the “one holy Catholic and Apostolic church” they are using the word “Catholic” in the sense of “universal”, not in the sense of being part of the Roman Catholic church.
Agree.
 
There are all kinds of issues with whether or not you have a valid priesthood - can Bishops from other religions have the proper intent, to ordain Anglican priests? (Anglican Bishops have no authority to ordain their own priests because of changes to the Anglican ceremony made by King Edward VI.)

Because of these questions, the Church errs on the side of caution, and does not allow anyone to partake of Anglican communion (which may not be valid, due to the “priest” possibly not being actually ordained; this also of course means that, quite probably, no Anglican has ever validly received Confirmation or First Holy Communion, which would be the reasons why they can’t receive Holy Communion in Catholic churches.)
Also agree.
 
Variables relevant to the Anglican practice are numerous.
The issue is: Anglicans keep a SEPARATE house, outside the Catholic Church.
It is their decison to do so and has been so since the inception of that denomination.
 
Here we go again :rolleyes:
It is extremely easy for Anglicans to become Catholics, if they decide they want to. 🙂

There is absolutely nothing, except acceptance of the authority of the Pope, preventing you from joining us on this side of the Tiber.
 
It is extremely easy for Anglicans to become Catholics, if they decide they want to. 🙂

There is absolutely nothing, except acceptance of the authority of the Pope, preventing you from joining us on this side of the Tiber.
This is something that both Catholics and Anglicans are working on. On another thread I posted a report from the ARCIC group which basically said that Anglicans will work towards recognizing the Pope’s unique role in Christ’s church while the Catholic Church will work towards a better dispersion of authority at the local level as well as the use of synods. So both church’s recognize this isn’t a one way street here. Both parties have things to work on here.
 
It is extremely easy for Anglicans to become Catholics, if they decide they want to. 🙂

There is absolutely nothing, except acceptance of the authority of the Pope, preventing you from joining us on this side of the Tiber.
That and the fact that we can’t receive Communion until next Easter. 😃

If you guys will let us bring our music, I’ll think about it haha
 
That and the fact that we can’t receive Communion until next Easter. 😃

If you guys will let us bring our music, I’ll think about it haha
Agreed, I’ll think about it if they at LEAST adopt anglican chant.
 
That and the fact that we can’t receive Communion until next Easter. 😃
Anglicans don’t have to go through RCIA. Two weeks of preparation with a priest, plus how ever long it takes to get the Bishop’s permission, is more usual. 😃
If you guys will let us bring our music, I’ll think about it haha
Heck, we let everyone else bring theirs. Why not? 🙂
 
Anglicans don’t have to go through RCIA. Two weeks of preparation with a priest, plus how ever long it takes to get the Bishop’s permission, is more usual. 😃
That’s what I’d recently heard. I asked several different parishes about it last year (for informative purposes), though, and they all said that it was required for all non-Catholics no matter what. They didn’t care that I was from the Episcopal Church. And it’s only offered in September in my city. :confused: Not that I’m doubting you at all…I just wonder if some places are really slow to catch up. 🤷
 
That and the fact that we can’t receive Communion until next Easter. 😃

If you guys will let us bring our music, I’ll think about it haha
We already use a lot of your music! Although as a former Episcopalian, I confess I do miss the Willan Mass, so please bring that when you come, OK?

Unfortunately, from what I understand, the Lutherans are more likely to beat it back to Rome than the Anglicans. The American Episcopal church is not making it easy. 😉
 
That’s what I’d recently heard. I asked several different parishes about it last year (for informative purposes), though, and they all said that it was required for all non-Catholics no matter what. They didn’t care that I was from the Episcopal Church. And it’s only offered in September in my city. :confused: Not that I’m doubting you at all…I just wonder if some places are really slow to catch up. 🤷
Agreed. Took me over a year. RCIA is actually up to the parish as I know that my parish conducts it differently than my son’s parish, within the same diocese.

But the wait was worth it! 🙂
 
We already use a lot of your music! Although as a former Episcopalian, I confess I do miss the Willan Mass, so please bring that when you come, OK?

Unfortunately, from what I understand, the Lutherans are more likely to beat it back to Rome than the Anglicans. The American Episcopal church is not making it easy. 😉
Yea, thats true. We Episcopalians love to make trouble!
 
We already use a lot of your music! Although as a former Episcopalian, I confess I do miss the Willan Mass, so please bring that when you come, OK?

Unfortunately, from what I understand, the Lutherans are more likely to beat it back to Rome than the Anglicans. The American Episcopal church is not making it easy. 😉
Well, the Lutherans who are likely to beat it back to Rome are probably not the Lutherans Rome would want to have. Expatriates from the ELCA or other liberal Lutheran World Federation bodies.

Incidentally, off topic, but what is up with the look of modern Roman Catholic parishes in America, anyway? My WELS parish looks more Catholic than the two Catholic churches here in town. What hideous, bland architecture.
 
That’s what I’d recently heard. I asked several different parishes about it last year (for informative purposes), though, and they all said that it was required for all non-Catholics no matter what. They didn’t care that I was from the Episcopal Church. And it’s only offered in September in my city. :confused:
If you were talking to the secretary or to another lay person, that’s what she has to say to everyone who phones, since, in the first place, she doesn’t (typically) know anything about the actual process itself, and secondly, she has no idea who she’s talking to. You would also be amazed at how many calls we get from people who “know it all” despite never having set foot in a church of any kind, before - so she is screening those ones out, as well.

Get an appointment with a priest and speak to him face to face - I feel sure that once he knows your situation, things will start to happen for you very quickly. 🙂
 
Well, the Lutherans who are likely to beat it back to Rome are probably not the Lutherans Rome would want to have. Expatriates from the ELCA or other liberal Lutheran World Federation bodies.

Incidentally, off topic, but what is up with the look of modern Roman Catholic parishes in America, anyway? My WELS parish looks more Catholic than the two Catholic churches here in town. What hideous, bland architecture.
I’m sure the past 50 years are going to be remembered as a kind of “Dark Ages” for the Church, with regard to art and architecture. 😦
 
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