Why don't Jews still practice animal sacrifices?

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Valke2 said:
IMO, sacrifices were only instituted as a way to keep the Jews happy, since that is what they were used to
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Have you forgotten about the passover lamb?

Was God just “keeping” Israel “happy” re the passover lamb or was He delivering them out of the terrible slavery of Egypt?

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emeraldisle said:
Have you forgotten about the passover lamb?

Was God just “keeping” Israel “happy” re the passover lamb or was He delivering them out of the terrible slavery of Egypt?

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I was referring to the practice of sacrifices after Sinai.
However, your opinion is the majority opinion in Judaism (assuming you believe sacrifices should and will be reinstituted).
 
emeraldisle said:
It’s sad you keep ignoring/disbelieving what the God of the Tanakh has said.

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I’m not ignoring it at all. I just understand the Tanakh the correct way, the way Hashem intended Jews to understand it. 🙂
 
HashemEchad said:
I’m not ignoring it at all. I just understand the Tanakh the correct way, the way Hashem intended Jews to understand it. 🙂
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I am going to go off topic, if you can forgive me. You are using “the name” in the place that I might expect you to use Adonai. I understand your user name to be The One Name, which I take to be a reference to the tetragrammaton, which I will not type here, so as to not offend. Can you clarify your usage here in the phrase “the way Hashem intended Jews to understand”? Or have I completely misunderstood and Hashem in your country of origin is a personal name for an individual man, and not a transliteration of the Hebrew for “the name”?

I apologize in advance if I have used an incorrect word and have offended.
 
Adonai is used when reading scripture. When talking about God Hashem or other names are used.
 
I suspect there may be some gentile confusion between pre- and post Mosaic sacrifice.
The former was an individual undertaking, while the latter is a group function that ceased when the group was dispersed.
Abramic sacrifice was between him and the Lord, where temple sacrifice was completely different in nature.
I think - don’t quote me on that.

God bless you.
 
emeraldisle said:
God told the Israelites to sacrifice animals for sin offerings.

God ended the sacrifice of animals for sin offerings by offering the Lord Jesus as the perfect once for all sacrifice for sins.

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There was some 40 years or more after the death of Jesus before the sacrafice stopped. God was acting rather slow, huh?
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In the book of Jonah, an entire city is redeemed without offering any sacrifices.
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IMO, sacrifices were only instituted as a way to keep the Jews happy, since that is what they were used to. Rambam suggested pretty much the same thing and, although he taught and wrote about sacrifices, was not of the opinion that they would be resumed or needed to be resumed when the Temple was built.
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'According to the prophet Hosea you’re correct:
For it is love that I desire, not sacrifice, and knowledge of God rather than holocausts.
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Hosea 6:6

There is no appropriate Christian theological answer to this question, the common sense answer was the first one given…no temple, no sacrafice.
 
I guess you had to be there.
The Romans went totally off the hook - one rebellion too many, and they resolved to wipe the Jews off the map.
You could fight, hide, run, surrender, it didn’t matter, because the Senatus Populi Romani Quirites were going to give an example to all potential rebels of what rebellion meant.
The Dead Sea Scrolls managed to escape them, but not many of the living did. In one of the most savage, efficient military campaigns in history (one they came close to losing) they hunted down and killed or enslaved nearly every Jew between Syria and Egypt, young, old, guilty, innocent.
So there were hardly any opportunities for sacrifice.

Hosea indeed - recall Samuel’s savage words to Saul; God wanted obedience! not sacrifice. What is one without the other?

As for resuming animal sacrifice, PETA may have the edge there.
The modern Ignorances aren’t aware that Jewish sacrifice was a step up in the world.
While they sacrificed lambs (going to extraordinary lengths to inflict as little pain as possible) their neighbors sacrificed people - children. Horrible practices from the misty isles of Britain to the blastfurnace deserts of Arabia. Blackened human bones on altars.
One of the things the Lord meant to eradicate by any means necessary.
It looks like the job has been done on that account - and if the people will remember obedience, is sacrifice needed?

Haven’t we come a pretty long way considering?

God bless you.
 
Animal sacrifice is practiced every year in contemporary Judaism – a chicken is sacrificed in the ritual of kapparos on the evening before the Jewish Day of Atonement, Yom Kippur.

A live chicken is taken and held by the neck and spun around the participant’s head three times, which transfers the sin to the chicken. The chicken is then slaughtered. Many Jewish leaders claimed that this was a pagan ritual, and it was even forbidden in the famous Code of Jewish Law ( hulchan Aruch) but many Orthodox Jews still practice it.

In a less gruesome ritual, when Orthodox Jews make bread, a piece of the dough is separated and burnt (or thrown away) called “challah” (not to be confused with the style of bread by the same name). This is symbolically set apart for Jewish priests.
 
Well if a third Temple is built in my lifetime, I’ll have to make sure I ask a Jewish Christian to take HaschemEchad and Valke2 there and give them a tour of the Temple to show them the things within that symbolizes Yeshua.
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Bible_Reader said:
Animal sacrifice is practiced every year in contemporary Judaism – a chicken is sacrificed in the ritual of kapparos on the evening before the Jewish Day of Atonement, Yom Kippur.

A live chicken is taken and held by the neck and spun around the participant’s head three times, which transfers the sin to the chicken. The chicken is then slaughtered. Many Jewish leaders claimed that this was a pagan ritual, and it was even forbidden in the famous Code of Jewish Law ( hulchan Aruch) but many Orthodox Jews still practice it.

In a less gruesome ritual, when Orthodox Jews make bread, a piece of the dough is separated and burnt (or thrown away) called “challah” (not to be confused with the style of bread by the same name). This is symbolically set apart for Jewish priests.
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I was going to ask Hashem if she does practice animal sacrifice presently, but I don’t think she would answer me, she probably has me on her ignore list. Thanks for this info.
 
HashemEchad said:
(which has happened several times in our history…both the First and Second Temples were destroyed as punishment because we did not always keep Torah),
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:tsktsk:

“Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. “Do you see all these things?” he asked. "I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.” (Matthew 24:1-2).
 
Since I have the attention of so many of the Jewish faith, has anyone seen the movie **Ushpitzin, **a foreign film? It is cute and at first I didn’t know if it was about Orthodox Jews or contemporary. I still don’t.

If you read the reviews they think it is just a mediocre movie and what some don’t know it has two different endings, because the one leaves out the circumcision.

Has anyone seen The Black Book? That is a pretty violent movie but it is I guess realistic.
 
dessert said:
Since I have the attention of so many of the Jewish faith, has anyone seen the movie **Ushpitzin, **a foreign film? It is cute and at first I didn’t know if it was about Orthodox Jews or contemporary.
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Well, as I understand it (as a Catholic who knows a little about Judaism) the Jews who have the citron (called an *etrog *in Hebrew – a required element of a ritual celebrating the Jewish Thanksgiving Sukkot] are Hasidic Jews, which is a type of Orthodox Jew (often called ultra-Orthodox, or *Haredi *in Hebrew.)

The Jews released from prison are, of course, secular Jews.
 
Pug said:
I am going to go off topic, if you can forgive me. You are using “the name” in the place that I might expect you to use Adonai. I understand your user name to be The One Name, which I take to be a reference to the tetragrammaton, which I will not type here, so as to not offend. Can you clarify your usage here in the phrase “the way Hashem intended Jews to understand”? Or have I completely misunderstood and Hashem in your country of origin is a personal name for an individual man, and not a transliteration of the Hebrew for “the name”?

I apologize in advance if I have used an incorrect word and have offended.
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My handle is a statement, not a name actually. “Hashem echad” is a sentence in Hebrew which means, “God is One”. That’s what I’m trying to say with my handle: that God is One.

The sentence may INCLUDE the Hebrew term which is used in the place of the 4 letter ineffable Name of God, but it is not THE Name, per se.

Ha=the Shem=Name echad=one.

Its comparable to a Christian having the handle, “JesusIsLord”.
 
dessert said:
I was going to ask Hashem if she does practice animal sacrifice presently, but I don’t think she would answer me, she probably has me on her ignore list. Thanks for this info.
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I don’t “ignore” anyone unless they REALLY get annoying. Frankly, I don’t recall reading any of your posts before, so I doubt I’d have you on “ignore” anyway.

No, I do not practice animal sacrifice, and truthfully, for the past year I have been going through a strange experience where I really don’t want to feel responsible for killing ANYTHING, human or otherwise. I’m not sure what triggered it, but I spent last night in tears after watching that disgusting wretch of a man, Henry VIII, devour a beautiful swan that he had killed so he could stuff his face (The Tudors, on TV)…AFTER he had his latest wife decapitated so he could fulfill another lust of his (a new wife.)

When the Temple is restored, I will go along with animal sacrifice, but I really hate ANY kind of bloodshed or destruction. Its one of the reasons why I could never be a Christian…I couldn’t go along with the glorification of the bloody and gruesome death of another human being.
 
I read on a Jewish website that in Isreal there is a small group of rabbis who practice the method of sacraficing so that when the temple is rebuilt, they will not have lost the art.

A more important question is how will the temple be rebuilt when there are “squaters” on the mount claiming ownership…
 
ralphinal said:
I read on a Jewish website that in Isreal there is a small group of rabbis who practice the method of sacraficing so that when the temple is rebuilt, they will not have lost the art.

A more important question is how will the temple be rebuilt when there are “squaters” on the mount claiming ownership…
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The Messiah will take care of that…there isn’t anything too big for him to handle, believe me. 🙂
 
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