Why exactly did the Jews kill Jesus?

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Honestly, I wasn’t trying to make this political. From a spiritual standpoint I think you need to look at the passages in a meaningful way in whatever time you live.
What he says more than who personally he was talking to.
 
How did we go from the original question to a dissection of the second Vatican Council?
 
I have a copy of it. That was written by Him as a private theologian
Cardinal Ratzinger’s book on Jesus Christ is indeed excellent. However, calling him a “private theologian” detracts from his standing in the church before he became pope. I would argue that a “private theologian” is one who does not publish, as that makes him a public theologian.
 
Honestly, I wasn’t trying to make this political.
Neither am I…
No matter how any care to categorize the Prime Cause of the Crucifixion of Jesus,
Pilate caved in to the non-stop pressuring of him by the Jewish Leadership…
Their sin is greater than Pilate’s.
 
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Cardinal Ratzinger’s book on Jesus Christ is indeed excellent. However, calling him a “private theologian” detracts from his standing in the church before he became pope. I would argue that a “private theologian” is one who does not publish, as that makes him a public theologian.
He actually wrote it while he was Pope, but not “as Pope” in terms of authority. This was in 2012 it was publicized (whilst he happened to be Pope). A Pope can either write as Pope (ie an encyclical for example) or as an individual author (as in this case). So while he was a great writer all His life, and I’m sure 95% of the book is correct, if ever tradition is contradicted, or what the scriptures say, then we must remind ourself that it was not an “authoritative” publication. In other words, it is not binding on Catholics, nevertheless it’s good to read it.
 
He actually wrote it while he was Pope, but not “as Pope” in terms of authority. This was in 2012 it was publicized (whilst he happened to be Pope).
Cardinal Ratzinger did not “happen to be pope”, as you say. He was elected to be pope by the college of cardinals.
 
Cardinal Ratzinger did not “happen to be pope”, as you say. He was elected to be pope by the college of cardinals.
You know what I meant. I mean He was Pope in that year (although the book he wrote was not published “as a document of the Papacy” unlike some other things He published.)

He did happen to be Pope, and that was because He was legitimately elected by the College or Cardinals chosen by His predecessor as you rightly point out.
 
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As prefect of the CDF - he had that level of Authority.
He had more authority than the CDF, he was Pope Benedict XVI when he wrote that book. Nevertheless He did not publish it as a papal document. In the introduction to volume 1 he said:

“It goes without saying that this book is in no way an exercise of the magisterium [that is, the Church’s teaching authority], but is solely an expression of my personal search “for the face of the Lord” (cf. Ps 27:8). Everyone is free, then, to contradict me. I would only ask my readers for that initial goodwill without which there can be no understanding”.
 
He had more authority than the CDF, he was Pope Benedict XVI when he wrote that book.
Popes are subject to Catholicism: Scriptures, Sacred Tradition and Magisterium

The charge of “Blasphemy” hurled against Jesus
is the reason why the Jewish Leadership Sentenced Jesus to Death.
 
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Certainly Caiaphas, the High Priest, was behind it all. Ananus deferred to what his son-in-law wanted.
Pilate was cornered into crucifying Jesus because Caiaphas knew a public stoning would backfire- if he could even find enough Jews to throw stones at Jesus. Jesus had to be railroaded and Pilate probably owed Caiaphas a favor. The Temple probably paid Pilate personally a huge amount of money every year as a bribe.

But there is much more to the story. If you read Josephus. In Hagan’s “Passover” and “Fires of Rome” it is laid out.

Jesus was executed early in the Passover because the Syrian President and the second most powerful man in the Roman Empire at the time, Lucius Vitellius, was coming to Jerusalem for the celebration, on a special assignment from Tiberius. The event had to be peaceful or Rome might pull their backing of the High Priesthood as de facto rulers of Judea.
The year would have been AD 36.
Hagan also goes into how that year is derived. A lot has to do with the arrest and execution of John the Baptist, and Herod Antipas’ attempted invasion of Nabotea, which was rebuffed with great losses.
 
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