why has the catholic church not asked god's advice

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aprilfloyd said:
If the catholic church is correct in it’s teachings and it’s god is the real one and exists, why are world leaders and our universities not investigating the potential of assistance in the world’s problems, via communication or advice from god.
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Hehe. Every priest is obligated and laymen encouraged to pray the Liturgy of the hours daily. Catholics weekly (at least!) commune with God when we receive him flesh and blood in the Eucharist. Prayer and devotions beyond counting are offered precisely because they ARE a communication with God.

What you REALLY seem to mean is “Why doesn’t the catholic church compel God to communicate with man the way aprilfloyd would prefer Him to?” The answer is in the last few chapters of the book of Job (in the bible). Look it up.

Back? God doesn’t owe you anything. Quite the opposite. And yet He recognizes the effect that His omnipotence would have on us if He fully revealed Himself to us as we are now (think Raiders of the Lost Ark island scene). Lovingly, He choses to reveal Himself to us when we ask Him to, but He won’t do it in a way that coerces us, even if many of us destroy ourselves through defiance and pride.
 
dshix said:
I already answered your question. God is spiritual, we are physical.

The only way to talk to God is through prayer, and he does indeed answer our prayers, though not always in the way we expect.
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It seems a very primitive method of communication and only one way. Very frustrating. Why do you think Government and other organisations do not try and communicate with Him? Especially, those organisations helping the third world countries.
 
manualman said:
Hehe. Every priest is obligated and laymen encouraged to pray the Liturgy of the hours daily. Catholics weekly (at least!) commune with God when we receive him flesh and blood in the Eucharist. Prayer and devotions beyond counting are offered precisely because they ARE a communication with God.

What you REALLY seem to mean is “Why doesn’t the catholic church compel God to communicate with man the way aprilfloyd would prefer Him to?” The answer is in the last few chapters of the book of Job (in the bible). Look it up.

Back? God doesn’t owe you anything. Quite the opposite. And yet He recognizes the effect that His omnipotence would have on us if He fully revealed Himself to us as we are now (think Raiders of the Lost Ark island scene). Lovingly, He choses to reveal Himself to us when we ask Him to, but He won’t do it in a way that coerces us, even if many of us destroy ourselves through defiance and pride.
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I am thinking more about helping people in the third world or in the war-torn parts of our planet. I don’t need His help, but there are others who do. Why does he not act?
 
aprilfloyd said:
I am thinking more about helping people in the third world or in the war-torn parts of our planet. I don’t need His help, but there are others who do. Why does he not act?
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He is though. See the Church run charities in the 3rd world? That is God’s hand at work.
 
You mean why doesn’t He step in and undo all the horrible effects of people’s sins on themselves and on others??? Seriously?

You… don’t have kids, do you?

Take a step back and have a look at the larger picture. God HAS intervened in History over and over and over again. But always in ways in which those with closed hearts can deny it if they choose. He became incarnate as a human being and suffered execution at human hands for his trouble all to make the eternal difference for our destiny. But that’s not enough for you? Just who do you think you are??
 
aprilfloyd said:
It seems a very primitive method of communication and only one way. Very frustrating. Why do you think Government and other organisations do not try and communicate with Him? Especially, those organisations helping the third world countries.
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Hmm. How might that work out in practice? The U.S. President holds a press conference. He explains that a special commission has been working on communicating with God, and has been successfull. Now, he says, “Here is what God wants me to do…”

Would everyone be happy with that? Or suppose a U.N. NGO made the announcement instead: “We have it directly on God’s authority that…” “and of course would expect no Security Council veto of God’s advice.”
 
And then we have to figure out if any of them are lying, if we even get that far.
 
Gricken said:
He is though. See the Church run charities in the 3rd world? That is God’s hand at work.
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The charities could run without God. I mean some more involvement than that which we can achieve without him.
 
JimG said:
Hmm. How might that work out in practice? The U.S. President holds a press conference. He explains that a special commission has been working on communicating with God, and has been successfull. Now, he says, “Here is what God wants me to do…”

Would everyone be happy with that? Or suppose a U.N. NGO made the announcement instead: “We have it directly on God’s authority that…” “and of course would expect no Security Council veto of God’s advice.”
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It would be investigated and peer reviewed.
 
aprilfloyd said:
How do you know it’s impossible, surely it would be worth a try, think of all the killing that could be stopped. Why is no organisation trying it
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The Church has been telling us to pray for the last two thousand years. What do you think that is for?

You want people to hear what God is telling them? Get them to pray and read scripture.

If you are asking for a sicentific solution, then you are being silly and not asking a serious question.
 
Frank_Drebin said:
You want people to hear what God is telling them? Get them to pray and read scripture.

If you are asking for a sicentific solution, then you are being silly and not asking a serious question.
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Frank,

Can you read the above two sentences again please.

Seriously. Read them again.
 
Gricken said:
:eek: Perhaps you should explain why it’s an issue instead of just acting shocked.
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She has a barely decipherable opening post, and takes issue with my response… Go figure.

The Church has been asking for God’s wisdom since the dawn of time.
 
Frank_Drebin said:
The Church has been telling us to pray for the last two thousand years. What do you think that is for?

You want people to hear what God is telling them? Get them to pray and read scripture.

If you are asking for a sicentific solution, then you are being silly and not asking a serious question.
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Do people really think that the horrific killings in the war torn parts of the world could be helped one iota, if more people prayed to a Catholic God or read scripture AND a scientific solution is silly. Why have not governments put in place prayer groups on a global scale to solve these world problems.
 
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