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Wretched 1. Please stop posting. Or if you must post, change your name and don’t publicly align with the Latin Mass in any way other than going to church
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I went to my first ever Latin EF Mass last Ash Wednesday.
While I did enjoy it and I love all approved Rites and Usages of the Church, my ultimate conclusion was the same as yours: I am so very grateful for the OF.
I feel much more edified after an OF Mass than an EF.
When I went to OF Mass the next day, I had a totally new found appreciation for what Blessed Pope Paul VI vouchsafed to us.
If the EF was the only Mass available, it’s doubtful whether my wife and I would have even become Catholic in the first place.
This was a low Mass however - I am still very much solicitous to attend a Solemn High Mass, preferably a Solemn High Pontifical Mass in the EF.
I also felt like the OF is much closer to the Eastern Byzantine Rite Liturgy which I’ve come to love so much.
My grandparents who were both devout lifelong Roman Catholics were born in the early 1920s and they had no problem switching to the OF at all when it came out - sadly I never got to ask them their opinions on the switch, but I have a strong feeling they would have said they were quite happy about the OF - which is what I hear most commonly from people who lived through that turbulent time in Church history.
The people who left the Church or were upset are a small fraction compared to the numbers who rejoiced. It’s impossible to satisfy everybody when you’ve got 1,300,000,000 under one roof!
While I did enjoy it and I love all approved Rites and Usages of the Church, my ultimate conclusion was the same as yours: I am so very grateful for the OF.
I feel much more edified after an OF Mass than an EF.
When I went to OF Mass the next day, I had a totally new found appreciation for what Blessed Pope Paul VI vouchsafed to us.
If the EF was the only Mass available, it’s doubtful whether my wife and I would have even become Catholic in the first place.
This was a low Mass however - I am still very much solicitous to attend a Solemn High Mass, preferably a Solemn High Pontifical Mass in the EF.
I also felt like the OF is much closer to the Eastern Byzantine Rite Liturgy which I’ve come to love so much.
My grandparents who were both devout lifelong Roman Catholics were born in the early 1920s and they had no problem switching to the OF at all when it came out - sadly I never got to ask them their opinions on the switch, but I have a strong feeling they would have said they were quite happy about the OF - which is what I hear most commonly from people who lived through that turbulent time in Church history.
The people who left the Church or were upset are a small fraction compared to the numbers who rejoiced. It’s impossible to satisfy everybody when you’ve got 1,300,000,000 under one roof!
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Psychae
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Ok this is weird and disturbing because I attend the EF and recently someone there told me this exact same thing… that the OF (they said Novus Ordo) was a “mockery.” I kid you not, they used that exact same word. I I stood up for the OF and told them that what they were saying was crap… but holy cow. How can people who call themselves Catholic, call the Mass a “mockery”?!?
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I think Castanets are pretty cool.
But personally, I tend towards Benedict XVI conservatism in liturgical music. Strangely enough, though, I attend the student mass (University students) at my church. The music tends to be much more contemporary, but it lifts the students up to worship God truly and it resonates with who they are as young people. I think it’s a great mass for this group. It’s very reverent and well done. We have incense, too, which is always a big plus for me.
But personally, I tend towards Benedict XVI conservatism in liturgical music. Strangely enough, though, I attend the student mass (University students) at my church. The music tends to be much more contemporary, but it lifts the students up to worship God truly and it resonates with who they are as young people. I think it’s a great mass for this group. It’s very reverent and well done. We have incense, too, which is always a big plus for me.
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It’s not that the NO itself is a mockery -N.O. then praise God! But I call what I have personally seen of it is indeed a mockery.
The way it’s being abused is in itself making a mockery of the Holy Rite itself.
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That’s extremely telling, especially considering the Diocese of Lincoln is one of the most conservative and tradition minded Diocese in the entire English speaking world.
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Lord, save us from our friends.
please, please note that the vast majority of people like me who prefer the EF but reverence the OF as well, would not dream of thinking, let alone saying, that the OF was ‘mockery’.
I’d like to say that this attitude is totally wrong and reprobated by me and those who value both rites of the Mass. (and I do wonder at the timing of such a post when just so very recently there were other posts addressing who did more ‘anti’ posting, anti-EF or anti-OF, and there were remarks that some of us had seen over the years more anti-EF which they found surprising since there are far fewer people attending an EF than an OF so people who attended the OF and criticized the EF had like 40 years of never even attending it so why did they even care) and then suddenly out of the blue a post like this which is offensive to the OF appears. It does seem like a bit of a coincidence that when people were complaining about how ‘nasty’ EF people were to the OF that a long-dormant thread suddenly reopens with an ‘anti-OF’ post, doesn’t it? Just a little?
Almost as though just when people were getting to the point of realizing that both groups had extremists and that the majority on either side were respectful of each other, and that both had reason to complain about the extremists ‘anti’ attitudes. . .that somebody wanted to come along and make oh so clear that those 'wretched EF people really WERE the true and only nasties.
Again, just a little too coincidental that suddenly this appears when people were actually starting to get some mutual respect and understanding going. . .
please, please note that the vast majority of people like me who prefer the EF but reverence the OF as well, would not dream of thinking, let alone saying, that the OF was ‘mockery’.
I’d like to say that this attitude is totally wrong and reprobated by me and those who value both rites of the Mass. (and I do wonder at the timing of such a post when just so very recently there were other posts addressing who did more ‘anti’ posting, anti-EF or anti-OF, and there were remarks that some of us had seen over the years more anti-EF which they found surprising since there are far fewer people attending an EF than an OF so people who attended the OF and criticized the EF had like 40 years of never even attending it so why did they even care) and then suddenly out of the blue a post like this which is offensive to the OF appears. It does seem like a bit of a coincidence that when people were complaining about how ‘nasty’ EF people were to the OF that a long-dormant thread suddenly reopens with an ‘anti-OF’ post, doesn’t it? Just a little?
Almost as though just when people were getting to the point of realizing that both groups had extremists and that the majority on either side were respectful of each other, and that both had reason to complain about the extremists ‘anti’ attitudes. . .that somebody wanted to come along and make oh so clear that those 'wretched EF people really WERE the true and only nasties.
Again, just a little too coincidental that suddenly this appears when people were actually starting to get some mutual respect and understanding going. . .
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