Why is CCD so much longer than RCIA?

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Ten years ago I went through the RCIA program and became a Catholic, if I rememer correctly the program lasted less than a year.
My son is now in first grade and enrolled in CCD and I’m just curious about the large time difference between the two. Two years before FHC and then another five before Confimation. Even though I’ve seen some posts saying that children can be confirmed anytime between the ages of 7 and 18. Does that depend on the parish? Big gap there. Just curious.
 
Your 6 year old does not have the capacity to learn at the rate or with the abstract reasoning skills of an adult. Concepts must be introduced over time and at an age appropriate level. Your 6 year old also is learning about the faith from the ground up. You can choose to place them in CCD or a Catholic school for their religious education, but the parent remains the *primary *educator of their child in the faith.

Regarding Confirmation, the age is set by the Bishop for their diocese.

RCIA is not “less than one year” it is as long as the individual needs it to be.

RCIA is populated, by and large, with adult Christians already baptized and living a Christian life. These are called Candidates for full communion, and they have had catechesis in the faith growing up in their own denomination. They are not blank slates. Therefore, their time to learn specific Catholic doctrines and practices may indeed by about a year. Or it may be less if they have done much reading and studying of Catholicism on their own before approaching RCIA (as was the case with me) or it may be longer if they were a nominal Christian or didn’t have much catechesis growing up.

There are also many RCIA catechumens who come with no background in the faith at all. In that case, RCIA may be several *years *for them before they move into the Rites leading up to baptism. It depends upon how much prerequisite knowledge they have from their own study and background.

Each person is unique when it comes to RCIA.
 
I guess I only have my own RCIA experience to draw on. I didn’t realize that there wasn’t a “standard” length of time. Thank you for your response.
 
One key thing to remember, learning the Faith does not end when RCIA is over or when the child is Confirmed.

We are to continue to study the Faith for our entire lives, so, when RCIA is over - if you do not have mystigogy, sign up for another adult class or Bible study or faith sharing group.

When teens finish CCD, our Parish still has classes for them to continue catechesis, they also have youth group and then move into adult classes.

Confirmation is not graduation.
 
The "normal " class here is from Sept - Easter, and then for two more months, but I remember how attendence dropped off after the Easter vigil. After I joined six years ago I spent two years reading on average a two hundred page book on catholicism every two weeks. And I still keep reading. Now - next week I start the aspirance program of the permanent diaconate.
 
One key thing to remember, learning the Faith does not end when RCIA is over or when the child is Confirmed.

We are to continue to study the Faith for our entire lives, so, when RCIA is over - if you do not have mystigogy, sign up for another adult class or Bible study or faith sharing group.

When teens finish CCD, our Parish still has classes for them to continue catechesis, they also have youth group and then move into adult classes.

Confirmation is not graduation.
On this, I would agree. I was confirmed at this past Saturday’s Easter Vigil, which means I can receive the Eucharist and am a full Catholic in the eyes of Rome.

But I know I’ve only taken the first steps. After I get “settled in,” I want to go to Mystagogy or join a Bible study group.
 
CCD is more than sacramental preparation. The religious education of a child is as important as education in the traditional academic subjects, which goes from age 5 or 6 to age 16 or 18. Religious education should last just as long, either in Catholic school or CCD (parish religious education).

Betsy
 
Ten years ago I went through the RCIA program and became a Catholic, if I rememer correctly the program lasted less than a year.
My son is now in first grade and enrolled in CCD and I’m just curious about the large time difference between the two. Two years before FHC and then another five before Confimation. Even though I’ve seen some posts saying that children can be confirmed anytime between the ages of 7 and 18. Does that depend on the parish? Big gap there. Just curious.
RCIA should last for those being Baptized at least a year. Adults take in and learn larger amounts of information and also more complex ideas than children, who must learn at a slower pace. Generally children’s programs teach the same topic several times at different grade levels, covering it at a more and more complex level each time. For instance the topic of the Eucharist would be covered in 2nd grade, during First Communion preparation, in 5th grade,8th grade and 11th grade, but in more and more complex detail. An adult would receive the same or more information in a 1-1/2 hour adult lecture then in 5 or 6 - 1/2 hour childrens lessons.
 
CCD does not end. Yes there are time when there is prepartion for sacraments, but our continual education to know our faith and out God does not end.

Peace, FAB
 
… Two years before FHC and then another five before Confimation. …
Which does bring up a curious question… Why does CCD have FHC before Confirmation, but RCIA, you’re confirmed, then (what essentially amounts to) FHC? (granted, it’s on the same night…)
 
Which does bring up a curious question… Why does CCD have FHC before Confirmation, but RCIA, you’re confirmed, then (what essentially amounts to) FHC? (granted, it’s on the same night…)
Because Confirmation before First Communion is the “ideal order”. It still is in the Eastern Churches. And until about 100 years ago it was common for children to be confirmed and receive First Communion on the same day.

The theological understanding of Confirmation in the West is still under development so the sacrament has often been delayed to later years of childhood. First Communion years prior to Confirmation is kind of a concession to the need for this theological growth in understanding.
 
Ten years ago I went through the RCIA program and became a Catholic, if I rememer correctly the program lasted less than a year.
My son is now in first grade and enrolled in CCD and I’m just curious about the large time difference between the two. Two years before FHC and then another five before Confimation. Even though I’ve seen some posts saying that children can be confirmed anytime between the ages of 7 and 18. Does that depend on the parish? Big gap there. Just curious.
CCD or religious education should continue throughout the school years, either through parochial school, parish RE, or formal homeschooling. So yes it should be longer. It should also, according to the catechetical documents, be modelled on the RCIA, in that preparation for sacraments should include formal catechesis but also foster continuing conversion and foremost knowledge of and love for Jesus Christ. The period after reception of sacraments should also by mystagogical, in that the “mysteries”, the participation in the Paschal mystery through the liturgical life of the Church, is stressed and brought home to the child.

In the Latin church children may be confirmed at any time after the age of reason. National bishop’s conferences can set other limits, but it is ultimately up to the ordinary (local bishop) to set the age. Children in danger of death should be confirmed (and of course baptized) earlier. In this diocese children are expected to begin RE in 1st grade, and after an introductory year covering the basics, may enter the two-year sacramental preparation. First confession is made in 2nd grade, usually in Lent, and First Communion in 3rd grade, with ideally at least 6 months between those sacraments, as the synod document states, to make clear that these are two separate sacraments and emphasize the unique nature of each. Confirmation of baptized Catholic youth is at age 16 or 10th grade, following a 2 year preparation. Parents and sponsors are espected to attended 3 (2-hour) meetings for each sacrament.

the website is www.cdob.org, click on synod legislation

this is an example of “particular law” of a diocese, which interprets and specifies how canon law is to be applied to meet the pastoral needs of Catholics in that diocese.

RCIA has its own universal provisions and national statutes, and local bishops also make specific rules for their own diocese–how baptized non-Catholic children are initiated, whether or not he reserves confirmation of baptized adults to himself etc… Some bishops delegate this to priests, at Easter or other specific time, some do not. As always the priest who baptizes new adult converts (over age 7) also confirms them during the same celebration, unless an exception is made for grave pastoral reasons.

RCIA is NOT however the end of things, and everything possible should be done to encourage children to continue religious formation throughout the school years, or at rock bottom minimum, a year of mystagogy as prescribed in the rites. The catechumenate, which should be at least one calendar year, is proceeded by a period of inquiry or pre-catechumenate, of unspecified duration. In this diocese, as most parishes prepare children, it means that children spend at least 3 years in CCD/RE/RCIA. Very sadly only a small percentage continue through middle school, and most of those coming to confirmation prep in 9th grade have only the barest recollection of what they learned as children.

bottom line: CCD is much more than sacramental prep.
 
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