Why is evolution not true?

[UnseeNGoD]

Hey, I would like for all of you to tell me why you dont believe in evolution, when it is a proven fact. Also if you dont believe in evolution do you believe in dinosaurs? If you don’t why is there fossils? Why is it a fact that they came before humans, and why were they not mentioned in the bible? Prove me wrong.

 

[Catmando]

I’m pretty sure the only part the Church has a problem with is about natural selection, because we hold that at the very least God had to guide evolution; we humans couldn’t have simply “happened” as a result of natural selection.

Also, I think you’re being a little silly by presenting the sides as nothing but “Yes to everything evolution!” and “Young Earth Creationist.” There is a middle ground, you know. Several of them, in fact.

 

[PJM]

=UnseeNGoD;7786810]Hey, I would like for all of you to tell me why you dont believe in evolution, when it is a proven fact. Also if you dont believe in evolution do you believe in dinosaurs? If you don’t why is there fossils? Why is it a fact that they came before humans, and why were they not mentioned in the bible? Prove me wrong.

The Catholic positionis that it MIGHT BE, and even if it is, it’s a part of God’s Creation plan. WORKS for me.

 

[TempleofTheSoul]

Hey, I would like for all of you to tell me why you dont believe in evolution, when it is a proven fact. Also if you dont believe in evolution do you believe in dinosaurs? If you don’t why is there fossils? Why is it a fact that they came before humans, and why were they not mentioned in the bible? Prove me wrong.

Where did you get that the Catholic Church has said evolution is not true? Did you even bother to look up evolution in the CAF search engine where there are tons of threads on it?

The Catholic Church teaches that evolution is possible as long as it is a theistic form of evolution. And by theistic, I mean God-centered.

God bless

 

[UnseeNGoD]

Where did you get that the Catholic Church has said evolution is not true? Did you even bother to look up evolution in the CAF search engine where there are tons of threads on it?

The Catholic Church teaches that evolution is possible as long as it is a theistic form of evolution. And by theistic, I mean God-centered.

God bless

Ill check it out but, you all didnt answer my question about dinosaurs, Also How can you explain everything that came before humans and how can you explain space and what if there is another planet supporting life? Call me crazy but i just want answers.

 

[EmeraldWings]

evolution is not a fact, it is a theory, it has never been “proven” but only theorized and tested.

personally i do not believe in evolution, never have, just to many holes in the theory,
and about dinosaurs, yes they are in the bible, and there are even ancient drawings of dinosaurs in ruins from waaay before any fossils were discovered, plus the drawings are of them as they would look alive, so that’s a bit hard to explain away,

but instead of getting into it, i will just recommend watching this movie - youtube.com/watch?v=AeHDCfRzrXk
you can also watch that on netflix, or buy it on amazon, and it explains everything, when i watched it it totally answered all my questions and then some, it just blows the theory of evolution right out of the water,
but i’m not going to discuss it, just watch the video, cause if i try to explain it i’ll just botch it.

 

[UnityofTrinity]

Ill check it out but, you all didnt answer my question about dinosaurs, Also How can you explain everything that came before humans and how can you explain space and what if there is another planet supporting life? Call me crazy but i just want answers.

Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui Sancto,
Sicut erat in principio, et nunc, et semper, et in saecula saeculorum. Amen.

 

[if_youCthispray]

evolution is not a fact, it is a theory, it has never been “proven” but only theorized and tested.

personally i do not believe in evolution, never have, just to many holes in the theory,
and about dinosaurs, yes they are in the bible, and there are even ancient drawings of dinosaurs in ruins from waaay before any fossils were discovered, plus the drawings are of them as they would look alive, so that’s a bit hard to explain away,

but instead of getting into it, i will just recommend watching this movie - youtube.com/watch?v=AeHDCfRzrXk
you can also watch that on netflix, or buy it on amazon, and it explains everything, when i watched it it totally answered all my questions and then some, it just blows the theory of evolution right out of the water,
but i’m not going to discuss it, just watch the video, cause if i try to explain it i’ll just botch it.

also thanks for the video btw looks interesting

 

[UnseeNGoD]

Ok, were in the bible does it mention dinosaurs? show me before just stating it, Also There is not evidence at all to prove creation or any of that magic. Anyway here is waht I think Religion was created to make a mindset so people have something to look forward to, and believe in. In my mind god is not a real thing its just made up like santa claus to make order. Plus humans that were depicted in the bible were not the first things on earth, religion is a mind set. If harry potter was found back when the bible was created, people now a days would be like wow people had magic powers, this book must be right since its so old. Originally it was a symbol of power back in the ancient times, priests and so on were like the government almost like a dictator and people who were not christian or catholic were looked down upon on and considered witches or evil, therefore people turned to religion to be accepted and have no problems. It was a symbol of fear and so on just like the government now a days, sadly since back then groups, kingdoms, and orginizations had such impact on society religion exploded and so many people had to believe in it that it was the only thing that people belived in to be right. Now that science is acturaly making break actual discoveries there will be a time in the future were religion is the minority because science will eventually prove what the bible cannot. Simple

 

[tuscany]

**I’ll try to explain it how I see it. God created the universe, the sky, the sun and moon,oceans, the plants and trees. He next created all the sea and land animals. The LAST thing He created was man.

God is not in our time, so one day in the Bible might actually be thousands or millions of years. So just the way the Bible discribes creation, the dinosaurs were here before humans were, just like scientists have said.

I believe everything evolved, just like the scientists say, and just like the bones we find prove. But I do think when God decided to create humans, that is when He touched one of his creations, and that creation is what at that moment became man. From the moment of God’s touch, man became human. That is why I believe that scientists will never find the “missing link”, because that happened with God’s touch, that one act could never evolve.

So I have no problem with believing in evolution, and the Bible. Both are true and accurate I believe.**

 

[buffalo]

Ok, were in the bible does it mention dinosaurs? show me before just stating it, Also There is not evidence at all to prove creation or any of that magic. Anyway here is waht I think Religion was created to make a mindset so people have something to look forward to, and believe in. In my mind god is not a real thing its just made up like santa claus to make order. Plus humans that were depicted in the bible were not the first things on earth, religion is a mind set. If harry potter was found back when the bible was created, people now a days would be like wow people had magic powers, this book must be right since its so old. Originally it was a symbol of power back in the ancient times, priests and so on were like the government almost like a dictator and people who were not christian or catholic were looked down upon on and considered witches or evil, therefore people turned to religion to be accepted and have no problems. It was a symbol of fear and so on just like the government now a days, sadly since back then groups, kingdoms, and orginizations had such impact on society religion exploded and so many people had to believe in it that it was the only thing that people belived in to be right. Now that science is acturaly making break actual discoveries there will be a time in the future were religion is the minority because science will eventually prove what the bible cannot. Simple

Consider IDvolution.

 

[trmyjs]

what in science contradicts the Bible or God?

 

[UnityofTrinity]

Ok, were in the bible does it mention dinosaurs? show me before just stating it, Also There is not evidence at all to prove creation or any of that magic. Anyway here is waht I think Religion was created to make a mindset so people have something to look forward to, and believe in. In my mind god is not a real thing its just made up like santa claus to make order. Plus humans that were depicted in the bible were not the first things on earth, religion is a mind set. If harry potter was found back when the bible was created, people now a days would be like wow people had magic powers, this book must be right since its so old. Originally it was a symbol of power back in the ancient times, priests and so on were like the government almost like a dictator and people who were not christian or catholic were looked down upon on and considered witches or evil, therefore people turned to religion to be accepted and have no problems. It was a symbol of fear and so on just like the government now a days, sadly since back then groups, kingdoms, and orginizations had such impact on society religion exploded and so many people had to believe in it that it was the only thing that people belived in to be right. Now that science is acturaly making break actual discoveries there will be a time in the future were religion is the minority because science will eventually prove what the bible cannot. Simple

Except for the fact that even philosophers such as Francis Bacon, Augustine, or Thomas Aquinas whose minds are inargutably one of the best actually are religious. Your reason is flawed also because you have first of all no scientific evidences even though at the end you declare science to triump faith. You are also flawed when you presumely assume that everyone believe in religion because they are in fear, despite the fact that many even risk their lives for this religion. You also assume like many millitant atheists that religion and science must collide and contradict one another. However, they don’t.

On dinosaurs, neither did the Bible said God created tigers, bunnies, horses, or any particular animals on the 6th day. Yet Scripture said God created animals from land, sky, sea, all of them. Would this cover the dinosaurs also?

 

[brotherjoe]

Ok so let me ask you a question: do you think that belief in God is a good thing or a bad thing, and why?

 

[buffalo]

Ok, were in the bible does it mention dinosaurs? show me before just stating it, Also There is not evidence at all to prove creation or any of that magic. Anyway here is waht I think Religion was created to make a mindset so people have something to look forward to, and believe in. In my mind god is not a real thing its just made up like santa claus to make order. Plus humans that were depicted in the bible were not the first things on earth, religion is a mind set. If harry potter was found back when the bible was created, people now a days would be like wow people had magic powers, this book must be right since its so old. Originally it was a symbol of power back in the ancient times, priests and so on were like the government almost like a dictator and people who were not christian or catholic were looked down upon on and considered witches or evil, therefore people turned to religion to be accepted and have no problems. It was a symbol of fear and so on just like the government now a days, sadly since back then groups, kingdoms, and orginizations had such impact on society religion exploded and so many people had to believe in it that it was the only thing that people belived in to be right. Now that science is acturaly making break actual discoveries there will be a time in the future were religion is the minority because science will eventually prove what the bible cannot. Simple

The word dinosaur is a recent term coined in the 1800’s. The ancients called them behemoths and dragons.

Now just where did you here the rest of the nonsense? You aren’t just parroting atheist talking points now are you?

 

[Redratfish]

Hey, I would like for all of you to tell me why you dont believe in evolution, when it is a proven fact. Also if you dont believe in evolution do you believe in dinosaurs? If you don’t why is there fossils? Why is it a fact that they came before humans, and why were they not mentioned in the bible? Prove me wrong.

Not all of us don’t believe in evolution. I do believe in evolution. However, I look before the big bang, and all the rules of science, such as the laws of motion, and conservation of mass, I believe that for the big bang to occur, you need a God to put things into motion.

 

[Goldigal]

In my opinion everything that scientists have proven hasn’t disproved God in any way. We have just gained more knowledge about our earth and the creations on it. Of which God created. He could have done so through evolution but He would have enabled evolution to take place- who are we to question His methods

I know intelligent scientists that were atheists that kept trying to disprove God but ended up believing in Him fully because everything they researched pointed in His direction- there was no other explanation.

Even if in the future scientists make ‘breakthroughs’, the faith will never be a minority. We believe in something outside of ourselves, God who is awe inspiring and all powerful - humans can never ever reach the same intelligence or superiority no matter what humans find out - especially because what breakthroughs they do find, God already knew about and planned.

It’s like explaining to your mother how to give birth just because you did a research paper on it (except in a bigger magnitude).

 

[UnseeNGoD]

The word dinosaur is a recent term coined in the 1800’s. The ancients called them behemoths and dragons.

Now just where did you here the rest of the nonsense? You aren’t just parroting atheist talking points now are you?

Are you joking me? Nonsense?!??! Its in history books, and is a fact that religion was a symbol of power, wealth and created as a fear JUST like the government. The catholic religion ruled the world, and those giant cathedrals and so on were not built to please god. They were symbols of power, every one wanted to be a priest and would do anything to get there, even the priest’s had sex, and even were gay! Read any history book and you can find tons of examples and If you suddenly try to tell me history is a lie then you need to get your brain checked. Think about the past, were priest’s and other religious leaders wealthy? YES. Were they looked up upon and were better than everyone? YES.

 

[UnityofTrinity]

Are you joking me? Nonsense?!??! Its in history books, and is a fact that religion was a symbol of power, wealth and created as a fear JUST like the government. The catholic religion ruled the world, and those giant cathedrals and so on were not built to please god. They were symbols of power, every one wanted to be a priest and would do anything to get there, even the priest’s had sex, and even were gay! Read any history book and you can find tons of examples and If you suddenly try to tell me history is a lie then you need to get your brain checked. Think about the past, were priest’s and other religious leaders wealthy? YES. Were they looked up upon and were better than everyone? YES.

The fact is that if you open a history book written by an ancient historian, you probably can’t find all the words we have today. How can you find a word coined in the 1800s in the oldest book ever written? Your obsessive attempt try to bellitle religion is comprehensive, but pittiful. This prove one thing: Atheism cannot live without belittle religion.

 

[fermat]

Are you joking me? Nonsense?!??! Its in history books, and is a fact that religion was a symbol of power, wealth and created as a fear JUST like the government. The catholic religion ruled the world, and those giant cathedrals and so on were not built to please god. They were symbols of power, every one wanted to be a priest and would do anything to get there, even the priest’s had sex, and even were gay! Read any history book and you can find tons of examples and If you suddenly try to tell me history is a lie then you need to get your brain checked. Think about the past, were priest’s and other religious leaders wealthy? YES. Were they looked up upon and were better than everyone? YES.

I’m game. Can you recommend a few?

No one here deny’s that there have been corrupt people in the church. You can easily come to your point of view if you choose only to focus on the bad apples.

History is history. It’s the interpretation that can be the lie. I would challenge you to read 10 Catholic-friendly articles for each 10 anti-Catholic. An open mind is a great thing to bring to these discussions.