Why is it okay to adopt to atheists and not gays?

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Why, when it is to be presumed that a heterosexual atheist couple will raise children to have the same misconceptions about the nature of the family that a gay couple will, is it okay for a Catholic orphanage to adopt to an atheist couple but not a homosexual one?

I suppose the answer might have something to do with the idea that children having everyday exposure to a normal couple will still make them “get it” better?
 
Because atheism is a belief not an action. It’s possible to be an atheist without the children ever knowing. If an atheist isn’t hostile toward religion they might even respect Catholicism. An example of this is Penn Jillette. And, if this kind of atheist is married to a Catholic, they could even have no problem bringing up their child Catholic even though they personally don’t believe in it. Again, it doesn’t have to be known by the children that the parent is an atheist. But, if by “gays” you mean two people living in a homosexual relationship a child can see what they are doing. And that would cause scandal to the child.
 
I’m talking about open atheists who subscribe fully to a modernist ideology. The kind who will actively raise their children to be for things like abortion, gay marriage, and that fornication is fine.
 
Catholic adoption agencies, and most non-Catholic ones, try to place a child in accordance with the wishes of the birth parent; if mom wanted her baby brought up Catholic, they try to accommodate that wish. They don’t discriminate against atheists per se, but there just aren’t many birth parents expressing a wish for their child to be brought up by atheist parents. If mom wanted her baby brought up Lutheran, they would not normally place the child with Catholic parents.

A homosexual couple is not a “family”. An atheist couple can be a family. Placing a child with a homosexual couple is an act of dishonesty; it can’t be made into truth no matter what you do. A married, atheist couple may be responding to the love of the God they don’t yet see. It is not a great situation (from my view), but has the potential to become good. It’s not based on a lie.

Again, atheists rarely are able to adopt, given that so few atheists go all the way through 9 months of pregnancy, then put in a request that their child be raised by atheists. I think the original poster is looking for a way to oppose Christian teaching on gay marriage.
 
ThePuppyTurtle said:
I’m talking about open atheists who subscribe fully to a modernist ideology. The kind who will actively raise their children to be for things like abortion, gay marriage, and that fornication is fine.
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The Catholic Church teaches that giving a child to a homosexual couple for adoption is grave sin. And the reason I don’t question the Catholic Church’s teachings about sin is because I know that it comes from God who is infinitely superior to us in every way. The Catholic teaching on adoption is more about giving the child to a real family since the Church recognizes that there are people of different beliefs that make up families. An atheist man married to an atheist woman can be validly married to each other and be a real family as far as the Church is concerned. And that’s why a child can be given to them.
 
This is a wonderful question. I think it has a good answer, but I would like to add a level of complexity. The most natural response is, I think, to say that children need a mother and a father, in order to find their place in the world. But most Catholics would say that it is fine for a religious sisterhood to adopt a child – perhaps this is second-best, but it is permissible. Then why can’t it be second best (and morally permissible) for a gay family to adopt?

Like I said, I think this question has a good answer, but I’d like to hear how people respond to it.
 
ThePuppyTurtle said:
I’m talking about open atheists who subscribe fully to a modernist ideology. The kind who will actively raise their children to be for things like abortion, gay marriage, and that fornication is fine.
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I would hazard a guess that some one that is unable to have children of their own and seeking to adopt is not going to be a person that has strong feelings “for” abortion. It’s not impossible, but sounds like an unusual combination to me. Rather, I would expect such a couple to be thankful to the mother of the child that they are able to adopt.
 
The OP’s question is a game of choosing the evil that is less evil. That is a dangerous game that I don’t think catholics should play as the church teaches us to do right not going through life like well this evil is less than this other evil. Even the smallest evil is repulsive to God so we must reject all evil. If I ask you which way do you rather to be murdered, by a shot on your brain or after being tortured after an hour, what would you answer? Probably that I shouldn’t commiting murder right? Well same answer goes for OP’s scenario.
 
marymary1975 said:
Even the smallest evil is repulsive to God so we must reject all evil.
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Is it an evil when a sisterhood adopts a child? If not, then why is it evil when two women in a relationship adopt a child?

Now supposing we can draw a distinction here, as Catholics, is this distinction one that we can write into the law, considering that the law is blind to religion?
 
Prodigal_Son said:
Is it an evil when a sisterhood adopts a child? If not, then why is it evil when two women in a relationship adopt a child?

Now supposing we can draw a distinction here, as Catholics, is this distinction one that we can write into the law, considering that the law is blind to religion?
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A sisterhood? Do you mean like a nun religious congregation? And let me see if I understand your question: you mean if we can draw a distinction between evils if that can be passed to the legal world?

I am not sure what you mean because from a catholic standpoint there is a distinction between venial and mortal sin but still Jesus call is to avoid all sin, not hey go and do venial sins or go and do wrong just make sure is not that fatidical. That is pure secular mentality who seeks justification for wrong. Choosing run arounds around sin or well I want to sin or do wrong but to make it look less bad or to gain justification from others I am going with the lesser sin or lesser wrong ( which is the mentality behind this) is a no no that Catholics can’t fall into it.

As to the law if you are asking if I think that morality should be regulated, no I don’t think morality should be regulated. St Thomas Aquinas and st aguatine both explain the concept very well.
 
marymary1975 said:
A group of nuns cannot adopt any child, at least in the US. So I don’t see the point of the question because that is impossible.
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Well, I guess I had thought that the ordinary Catholic position was that nuns should be allowed to adopt, in certain special circumstances. But I’ve since learned that this is not necessarily the Catholic position. So my question may be irrelevant, though it still seems to me that nuns should be allowed to adopt, or at least to raise children in orphanages.
 
Prodigal_Son said:
Well, I guess I had thought that the ordinary Catholic position was that nuns should be allowed to adopt, in certain special circumstances. But I’ve since learned that this is not necessarily the Catholic position. So my question may be irrelevant, though it still seems to me that nuns should be allowed to adopt, or at least to raise children in orphanages.
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Now, nuns can run orphanages, I have not said that nuns cannot run an orphanage as a private organization. Running an orphanage and adopting is two different things. And just from a mere legal standpoint allowing a group of nuns to adopt is a really bad idea and a headache.
 
Prodigal_Son said:
Well, I guess I had thought that the ordinary Catholic position was that nuns should be allowed to adopt, in certain special circumstances. But I’ve since learned that this is not necessarily the Catholic position. So my question may be irrelevant, though it still seems to me that nuns should be allowed to adopt, or at least to raise children in orphanages.
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Orphanages are intended to be temporary care of children until adoptive parents (mom and dad) are found.
 
ThePuppyTurtle said:
Why, when it is to be presumed that a heterosexual atheist couple will raise children to have the same misconceptions about the nature of the family that a gay couple will, is it okay for a Catholic orphanage to adopt to an atheist couple but not a homosexual one?

I suppose the answer might have something to do with the idea that children having everyday exposure to a normal couple will still make them “get it” better?
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A married couple who are atheist. Along with homosexual “couples,” the Church objects to unmarried couples (yes, including unmarried Catholic couples) from adopting.
 
oldcatholicguy said:
A married couple who are atheist. Along with homosexual “couples,” the Church objects to unmarried couples (yes, including unmarried Catholic couples) from adopting.
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This reminds me of something I kept hearing when I was going through customs. People that were together (married or children with parents) could come through customs with each other. People that were not had to go through independently. Something the customs agents kept announcing: “If you are not married, you are not together.” While it was only refering to customs procedures I could see it some how being a metaphor for many other situations.
 
There’s a greater chance that the atheist couple & child would become Christian. A gay couple shows physical perversion daily. That’s much more harder for a child to overcome. Gays also dislike Christianity a great deal. Now I know that people may know some sodomite who goes to a church and is religious, but this is most likely done in a makeshift church. The ones in a leased office building, movie theatre, or high school gym. No real pulpit or message. Just pretend celebration.
 
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