Why is it said that knowing Biblical Greek or Hebrew helps with Scripture

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Some things can’t be translated. Often someone will ask me how to say such-and-such Japanese word or phrase in English, and I have to say it simply does not exist in English and it was not part of my thinking until I learned Japanese. As they say, “Learn a new language, gain a new soul.”

I’ve studied New Testament Greek but really not to the point where my thinking has been affected, but it does help me to see when the same Greek word that has been translated by different English words in different places, and that can be an eye-opener.

A world of study resources are available if you can just recognize the Greek and Hebrew characters and words, including interlinear Bibles which have the original language and an English equivalent underneath each word. (I can’t read Hebrew, BTW).

Of course, you can get by just fine without knowledge of Greek and Hebrew, if you have trustworthy teachers (whether humans or books).
 
Thank you for that Patrick.
So I don’t know what to do now.
If the translations vary so much how does one learn of the real interpretations of the Bible?
I mean if interpretations vary so much how does one learn of the real interpretation?
While a lot people think that there is only one way of interpreting the Scriptures correctly (something which the text does not offer within its pages), but the fact is that there are different possible ways to read it. Unlike its portrayal in popular culture (an idea which ultimately derives from the hard-line interpretation of sola scriptura espoused by 18th-19th century evangelicalism), the Scriptures do not give us any clearly-defined, black-and-white answers: it is not so much a manual of solutions but an open-ended library of questions. And there are various ways to tackle those questions. Catholic hermeneutics for instance identify four main different senses of Scripture: the literal sense, and the three spiritual senses - the allegorical, the moral, and the anagogical. We could further divide these into subcategories.
 
I will say this, if you are wanting to read Scripture for the sake of doctrine/study, stick with the English. There are a lot of good translations and commentaries out there that can aid you when the original language is unclear. However, if you want to read Scripture, then I would highly suggest learning the original languages. They are a lot of work, but they are worth it. Let me tell you, the first time I read Psalm 89 in Hebrew was hard work, but then I read it again and again and again and I was struck by the beauty of the poetry. You only catch a glimpse of it when you read it in English. I can’t wait until I am proficient enough in Hebrew to be able just to read the OT straight through.
 
Now, I won’t pretend to be an expert in either Greek or Hebrew or Aramaic - I can at least read Greek and know some words, but don’t ask me to explain the grammar. (My ‘knowledge’ of Hebrew or Aramaic is much worse BTW.) 😊 😛 But I will say this: being able to at least read the gospels in Greek is a very good experience. I mean, who would have thought that Nazareth would be spelled differently, sometimes within the very same gospel (you have Nazareth, Nazaret and Nazara)? Or that Mark would tend to use kai ‘and’ a lot to connect his sentences as well as loanwords from Latin (cf. kenturion instead of hekatontarchos for ‘centurion’) and narrate using the historic present (“And Jesus says…”), giving the gospel a fast-paced - if rather uncouth and rough - feel that would make grammar nazis have a mental break down? And that much of John’s gospel is actually in a poetic style? And that there are actually a kot of subtle allusions to the OT via the Septuagint?
 
Can someone make a list of what knowing the Greek or Hebrew does to help with the study of Scripture, please. Just a list of all of the things it helps with regarding the study of Scripture. Thank you.
 
It’s really not.

What about same sex marriage? Shouldn’t it be okay? After all, they’re just loving each other and some of them love God! So why shouldn’t it be allowed?

What about abortion? Sure it’s murder BUT what if the mother is going to die? Isn’t it more loving to save her life then let the unborn child have a chance for life?

Love God and love your neighbor doesn’t really cover ALL moral issues.
If a mother and a child were in a car accident together what kind of ‘loving’ mother would say, “Save me first”?

The unborn child is a child and the mother is his or her mother. What kind of mother kills her own child? There is a horrible disconnect in comprehending reality.

To accept same sex marriage is part of this inablity to comprehend reality. Same sex marriage is an illusion of the meaning of sex. Through out all of nature the purpose of sex in to procreate. To pretend that this is not the purpose of sex is to shut out reality.

Scientists are even more adamant than any Christian in affirming what I just said. The whole edifice of biology is based the Darwin’s Theory of Survival of the Fittest.

The Church’s understanding of same sex attraction is far more compassionate than Darwin’s Theory of Survival of the Fittest. . The Church recognizes that people with same sex attraction are children of God and are worthy of His grace and love, but the Church can not and will not pretend that this a normal expression of sex. To do so is to deny the reality of life itself.
 
Lots of good comments here. As a polyglot and language geek, I would love to have a thorough knowledge of Hebrew, Greek, and Latin. However, language acquisition and maintenance is a time-intensive project, and if you don’t have the time for all that study, then it is almost as useful to know where to find the answers to your questions, rather than to actually know the answers yourself.
 
“Just a list of all of the things it helps with regarding the study of Scripture.”

Let me put it this way: would you rather have firsthand information; or secondhand, even if the secondhand was provided by someone being as careful as possible to transmit the what they heard firsthand?

“Yeah, I know what you say he said, but I would rather hear it from him.”
 
Can someone make a list of what knowing the Greek or Hebrew does to help with the study of Scripture, please. Just a list of all of the things it helps with regarding the study of Scripture. Thank you.
I can’t give you an exact list, but I will try to illustrate things for you by looking at the first half of Mark’s gospel. Literally translated, this is how the gospel runs:

Beginning of the good-news of Jesus Christ, [Son of God]

As it is written in Isaiah the prophet:

Behold! I send my messenger before your face,
Who shall make ready your way.
A voice shouting in the wastelands:
“Prepare the way of the Lord,
straight make his paths.”


John the Baptizer appeared in the wasteland, preaching a baptism of repentance to remission of sins, and going out to him were the whole country of Judaea and all the Jerusalemites, and they were being baptized by him in the river Jordan, confessing their sins, and John was clothed with camel’s hair and a belt of leather around his waist, and was eating locusts and honey of the field, and was preaching, saying, “He comes – one mightier than I – after me, of whom I am not worthy, having bent down, to loosen the strap of his sandals! I baptized you with water, but he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit,” and it came to be in those days, Jesus came from Nazaret of the Galilee, and was baptized in the Jordan by John; and immediately coming up from the water, he saw the heavens tearing apart and the Spirit like a dove descending on him; and a voice [came] from the heavens: “You are my son, the beloved! In you I take delight;” and immediately the Spirit drives him out into the wasteland, and he was in the wasteland forty days being tested by Satan and was with the wild animals, and the angels were ministering to him. And after John had been handed over, Jesus came into the Galilee, preaching the good-news of [the kingdom of] God, [and saying] that the time is filled up and the kingdom of God is drawing near – “Repent, and believe in the good-news!” And, walking by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew the brother of Simon, dragnet-casting into the sea (because they were fishers) and Jesus said to them, “Come after me, and I will make you become fishers of men,” and immediately, having left the nets, they followed him, and having gone on a little farther, he saw James of Zebedee and John his brother – and they were in the boat mending the nets – and immediately he called them, and, having left their father Zebedee in the boat with the hirelings, they went off after him, and they go on to Capharnaum; and immediately on the sabbaths, having entered into the synagogue, he was teaching, and they were being awestruck at his teaching because he was teaching them as having authority and not as the scribes, and immediately there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit, and he cried out, saying, “What to us and to you, Jesus the Nazarene? You have come to destroy us! I have known you who you are: the holy one of God,” and Jesus rebuked him, [saying,] “Be muzzled shut, and come out of him;” and the unclean spirit having torn him and having shouted a great voice came out of him, and they were all amazed that they debate among themselves, saying, “What is this? A new teaching! With authority also the unclean spirits he commands and they obey him,” and the fame of him went out immediately everywhere to all the surrounding region of the Galilee; and immediately, having come out from the synagogue, they went to the house of Simon and Andrew with James and John, and the mother-in-law of Simon was lying down with fever, and immediately they speak to him about her, and having approached, he raised her up, having seized her hand, and the fever left her and she was ministering to them; and evening having come (when the sun set) they kept bringing to him all those having it bad and the demon-possessed – and the whole city was gathered together near the door – and he healed many who were those having it bad of various diseases, and many demons he drove out, and was not permitting the demons to speak because they knew him, and exceedingly-early, while still dark, having arisen, he went out [and departed] to a deserted place, and was there praying, and Simon and those with him followed after him, and having found him they say to him, “Everyone is looking for you,” and he says to them, “Let us go elsewhere, into the next towns, that there also I may preach, for that is why I came out.”​

This is just a translation yes, and it doesn’t fully capture all the nuances of the Greek (for example, “he was not permitting the demons to speak because they knew him”, which literally goes “…because they saw him,” (imperfect tense) ‘see’ being a common expression for ‘perceive’ or ‘know’), but I attempted to reflect at least some of Mark’s fast-paced, continuous style, complete with the 'and immediately’s and the historical present tense, something which some translations unfortunately obscure.
 
First off, nobody needs an excuse to learn a new language. It’s always a good thing, and your brain will be happier for the exercise.

Re: Bible study, I don’t think that people who don’t learn the Biblical languages are necessarily missing out on anything. It is part of our Christian heritage that we believe translations can be adequate, thanks to the Holy Spirit.

(Unlike Islam, which doesn’t believe a translated Quran is even a Quran.)

However, I think that if you have the urge to learn a Biblical language, you should probably listen up and do something about it. Very often, this sort of urge is a nudge from God, and you will probably have questions come up (from yourself or others) that require knowledge of Hebrew or Greek to answer.
 
I largely agree with Mintaka, except I think it’s a bit hard to follow commentaries and similar litterature with no knowledge in Gk.

I’m learning Gk.

In addition to the time it takes to learn Original Languages, it also costs quite a lot of money in the long run, both for the material, and the books You probably eventually buy, such as commentaries.

patrick457, do You think Hermeneia and Believer’s Church Bible Commentary -series are good? Do You recommend any specific volumes from those series?
As someone who have read quite a number of commentaries, I will say this: no two commentaries (including Catholic ones) are the same
Is there anyone who would like to purchase some Hermeneia or Continental -commentaries -volumes from me? For example Gn, Lv, Ruth, historical books, Ps, Proverbs, Song of Songs, big prophets, Hosea, The Sermon on the Mount, Mt 8-28, Mk, The Critical Edition of Q, Jn (I have too many Jn -commentaries), Ro, 1 Cor, Gal, The Pastoral Epistles, Hebrews (author is a Catholic), Jas, 1 Pt, Apocalypse, Ignatius of Antioch, The Apostolic Tradition, The Didache, Shepherd of Hermas? What I mean is that they are e-books in Logos. You would get them, and I would not have them left. It’s possible to transfer the licenses like this. If so, PM me, tell which volumes You would want, and how much You would pay. I’m sure we could agree about the price. It’s possible to run Logos without a base-package. There are 9 different base-packages (those ones which are shown on the front page), + Women’s Library, and 3 different Catholic base-packages. In addition to that, there’s for example the Essential Reference Bundle.
logos.com/product/8047/hermeneia-and-continental-commentaries
 
As it is written in Isaiah the prophet:

Behold! I send my messenger before your face,
Who shall make ready your way.
A voice shouting in the wastelands:
“Prepare the way of the Lord,
straight make his paths.”
Actually this passage provides an excellent reason to know the original languages. In Hebrew Isaiah 40:3 reads “A voice is shouting: In the wastelands prepare the way of the Lord; make straight in the desert a highway for our God.” I believe the Septuagint reflects the Mark reading. Knowing how the languages are structured enables you to more easily recognize the changes and allow you to question why the translator would change this.
 
First off, nobody needs an excuse to learn a new language. It’s always a good thing, and your brain will be happier for the exercise.

Re: Bible study, I don’t think that people who don’t learn the Biblical languages are necessarily missing out on anything. It is part of our Christian heritage that we believe translations can be adequate, thanks to the Holy Spirit.

(Unlike Islam, which doesn’t believe a translated Quran is even a Quran.)

However, I think that if you have the urge to learn a Biblical language, you should probably listen up and do something about it. Very often, this sort of urge is a nudge from God, and you will probably have questions come up (from yourself or others) that require knowledge of Hebrew or Greek to answer.
Very good!
 
“translations can be adequate” I agree that they can; not to say that any given translation is.
 
Actually this passage provides an excellent reason to know the original languages. In Hebrew Isaiah 40:3 reads “A voice is shouting: In the wastelands prepare the way of the Lord; make straight in the desert a highway for our God.” I believe the Septuagint reflects the Mark reading. Knowing how the languages are structured enables you to more easily recognize the changes and allow you to question why the translator would change this.
Actually, Mark’s quote is an amalgam of Exodus 23:20, Malachi 3:1 and Isaiah 40:3. The quote is attributed to Isaiah only in Alexandrian text-type manuscripts, which includes many of the earliest surviving copies of Mark (the reading followed here) - in fact the anti-Christian philosopher Porphyry sneered at this supposed gaffe in Mark’s part. Other versions get around the difficulty by ascribing it simply to “the prophets” (cf. the KJV).

A better example methinks is how to understand tou euangeliou Iesou Christou “the good-news (gospel) of Jesus Christ”: is it “the good-news about Jesus Christ” or “the good-news which Jesus Christ brings?” The Greek could mean both. And there’s also the keywords yiou Theou ‘son of God’ and euangelion: the euangelion wasn’t just some random ‘good tidings’, it was also the term for a message predicated on an action accomplished by the Roman Emperor, the divi filius (“son of [a] god;” the original holder of this title was Augustus Octavian, son of divus ‘the divine’ Julius Caesar), or a proclamation connected to him. (Again, notice the double meaning at play here.)
 
To add a bit of things to notice:

Note how Mark spells Jesus’ hometown as Ναζαρέτ Nazaret (a few manuscripts even have Ναζαρατ Nazarat), the same spelling used for the toponym in Matthew 2:23 in many manuscripts. The name could be found spelled as Ναζαρα Nazara in Matthew 4:13 and Luke 4:16 (one copy and Eusebius also have Nazara for Matthew 2:23 BTW). The familiar form Ναζαρέθ Nazareth is generally used more by Luke, being found in Luke 1:26; 2:4,39,51 and Acts 10:38 (it is also used in Matthew 21:11). And since we’re talking about Nazaret(h), there’s also the matter of Jesus’ moniker “Nazarene.” The form found in Matthew 2:23; 26:71; Luke 18:37, Acts 2:22; 3:6; 4:10; 6:14; 22:8; 24:5; 26:9 and John 18:5,7; 19:19 is Ναζωραῖος Nazōraios, while that in Mark 1:24; 14:67; 16:6 and Luke 4:34 is Ναζαρηνός Nazarēnos. A few modern translations would attempt to give the reader a feel of this difference by rendering the former as Nazorean and the latter as Nazarene. See? I told you they’d spell the same name differently even within the same work. 😉
 
“And after John had been handed over.” The verb used here, paradidōmi (to ‘deliver up’ into another’s hands), is the same verb used to describe Jesus being “handed over” by Judas to the chief priests, the chief priests to Pilate, and Pilate to death by crucifixion. So John’s fate in the gospel, being “handed over,” actually prefigures that of Jesus. This is where many English translations unfortunately obscure some things, since they often render the instance of paradidōmi in John’s case as “arrested” or “imprisoned” and in Judas’ case as “betray.” I will give out a few translations for comparison:

Young’s Literal

1:14
And after the delivering up of John, Jesus came to Galilee, proclaiming the good news of the reign of God.
14:10-11 And Judas the Iscariot, one of the twelve, went away unto the chief priests that he might deliver him up to them, and having heard, they were glad, and promised to give him money, and he was seeking how, conveniently, he might deliver him up.
14:21 ‘the Son of Man doth indeed go, as it hath been written concerning him, but wo to that man through whom the Son of Man is delivered up; good were it to him if that man had not been born.’
14:41-42 ‘Sleep on henceforth, and rest – it is over; the hour did come; lo, the Son of Man is delivered up to the hands of the sinful; rise, we may go, lo, he who is delivering me up hath come nigh.’
15:1 And immediately, in the morning, the chief priests having made a consultation, with the elders, and scribes, and the whole sanhedrim, having bound Jesus, did lead away, and delivered [him] to Pilate;
15:15 and Pilate, wishing to content the multitude, released to them Barabbas, and delivered up Jesus – having scourged [him] – that he might be crucified.

King James Version

1:14
Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God.
14:10-11 And Judas Iscariot, one of the twelve, went unto the chief priests, to betray him unto them. And when they heard [it], they were glad, and promised to give him money. And he sought how he might conveniently betray him.
14:21 The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.
14:41-42 Sleep on now, and take [your] rest: it is enough, the hour is come; behold, the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.
Rise up, let us go; lo, he that betrayeth me is at hand.
15:1 And straightway in the morning the chief priests held a consultation with the elders and scribes and the whole council, and bound Jesus, and carried [him] away, and delivered [him] to Pilate.
15:15 And [so] Pilate, willing to content the people, released Barabbas unto them, and delivered Jesus, when he had scourged [him], to be crucified.

American Standard Version

1:14
Now after John was delivered up, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God.
14:10-11 And Judas Iscariot, he that was one of the twelve, went away unto the chief priests, that he might deliver him unto them. And they, when they heard it, were glad, and promised to give him money. And he sought how he might conveniently deliver him unto them.
14:21 For the Son of man goeth, even as it is written of him: but woe unto that man through whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had not been born.
14:41-42 Sleep on now, and take your rest: it is enough; the hour is come; behold, the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. Arise, let us be going: behold, he that betrayeth me is at hand.
15:1 And straightway in the morning the chief priests with the elders and scribes, and the whole council, held a consultation, and bound Jesus, and carried him away, and delivered him up to Pilate.
15:15 And Pilate, wishing to content the multitude, released unto them Barabbas, and delivered Jesus, when he had scourged him, to be crucified.

New International Version

1:14
After John was put in prison, Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God.
14:10-11 Then Judas Iscariot, one of the Twelve, went to the chief priests to betray Jesus to them. They were delighted to hear this and promised to give him money. So he watched for an opportunity to hand him over.
14:21 “The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born.”
14:41-42 “Are you still sleeping and resting? Enough! The hour has come. Look, the Son of Man is delivered into the hands of sinners. Rise! Let us go! Here comes my betrayer!”
15:1 Very early in the morning, the chief priests, with the elders, the teachers of the law and the whole Sanhedrin, made their plans. So they bound Jesus, led him away and handed him over to Pilate.
15:15 Wanting to satisfy the crowd, Pilate released Barabbas to them. He had Jesus flogged, and handed him over to be crucified.

New American Standard Bible

1:14
Now after John had been taken into custody [footnote: Lit *delivered up], Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God,
14:10-11 Then Judas Iscariot, who was one of the twelve, went off to the chief priests in order to betray [footnote: Or *hand Him over] Him to them. They were glad when they heard this, and promised to give him money. And he began seeking how to betray Him at an opportune time.
14:21 “For the Son of Man is to go just as it is written of Him; but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had not been born.”
14:41-42 “Are you still sleeping and resting? It is enough; the hour has come; behold, the Son of Man is being betrayed [footnote: Or *delivered] into the hands of sinners. Get up, let us be going; behold, the one who betrays Me is at hand!”
15:1 Early in the morning the chief priests with the elders and scribes and the whole Council, immediately held a consultation; and binding Jesus, they led Him away and delivered Him to Pilate.
15:15 Wishing to satisfy the crowd, Pilate released Barabbas for them, and after having Jesus scourged, he handed Him over to be crucified.
 
New American Bible (Revised)

1:14
After John had been arrested, Jesus came to Galilee proclaiming the gospel of God:
14:10-11 Then Judas Iscariot, one of the Twelve, went off to the chief priests to hand him over to them. When they heard him they were pleased and promised to pay him money. Then he looked for an opportunity to hand him over.
14:21 “For the Son of Man indeed goes, as it is written of him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed. It would be better for that man if he had never been born.”
14:41-42 “Are you still sleeping and taking your rest? It is enough. The hour has come. Behold, the Son of Man is to be handed over to sinners. Get up, let us go. See, my betrayer is at hand.”
15:1 As soon as morning came,b the chief priests with the elders and the scribes, that is, the whole Sanhedrin, held a council. They bound Jesus, led him away, and handed him over to Pilate.
15:15 So Pilate, wishing to satisfy the crowd, released Barabbas to them and, after he had Jesus scourged, handed him over to be crucified.

Revised Standard Version

1:14
Now after John was arrested, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God.
14:10-11 Then Judas Iscariot, who was one of the twelve, went to the chief priests in order to betray him to them. And when they heard it they were glad, and promised to give him money. And he sought an opportunity to betray him.
14:21 “For the Son of man goes as it is written of him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! It would have been better for that man if he had not been born.”
14:41-42 “Are you still sleeping and taking your rest? It is enough; the hour has come; the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. Rise, let us be going; see, my betrayer is at hand.”
15:1 And as soon as it was morning the chief priests, with the elders and scribes, and the whole council held a consultation; and they bound Jesus and led him away and delivered him to Pilate.
15:15 So Pilate, wishing to satisfy the crowd, released for them Barab’bas; and having scourged Jesus, he delivered him to be crucified.

The situation is even more worse in dynamic equivalence, aka thought-for-thought translations. I’ll quote from the New Living Translation and the Contemporary English Version for samples:

1:14 Later on, after John was arrested, Jesus went into Galilee, where he preached God’s Good News.
14:10-11 Then Judas Iscariot, one of the twelve disciples, went to the leading priests to arrange to betray Jesus to them. They were delighted when they heard why he had come, and they promised to give him money. So he began looking for an opportunity to betray Jesus.
14:21 “For the Son of Man must die, as the Scriptures declared long ago. But how terrible it will be for the one who betrays him. It would be far better for that man if he had never been born!”
14:41-42 “Go ahead and sleep. Have your rest. But no—the time has come. The Son of Man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. Up, let’s be going. Look, my betrayer is here!”
15:1 Very early in the morning the leading priests, the elders, and the teachers of religious law—the entire high council—met to discuss their next step. They bound Jesus, led him away, and took him to Pilate, the Roman governor.
15:15 So to pacify the crowd, Pilate released Barabbas to them. He ordered Jesus flogged with a lead-tipped whip, then turned him over to the Roman soldiers to be crucified.

1:14 After John was arrested, Jesus went to Galilee and told the good news that comes from God.
14:10-11 Judas Iscariot was one of the twelve disciples. He went to the chief priests and offered to help them arrest Jesus. They were glad to hear this, and they promised to pay him. So Judas started looking for a good chance to betray Jesus.
14:21 “The Son of Man will die, just as the Scriptures say. But it is going to be terrible for the one who betrays me. That man would be better off if he had never been born.”
14:41-42 “Are you still sleeping and resting? Enough of that! The time has come for the Son of Man to be handed over to sinners. Get up! Let’s go. The one who will betray me is already here.”
15:1 Early the next morning the chief priests, the nation’s leaders, and the teachers of the Law of Moses met together with the whole Jewish council. They tied up Jesus and led him off to Pilate.
15:15 Pilate wanted to please the crowd. So he set Barabbas free. Then he ordered his soldiers to beat Jesus with a whip and nail him to a cross.
 
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