Why is it still okay to bash Catholics?

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Drawmack said:
Which will happen when The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church quits teaching unbiblical doctrine.

But this is very far off topic and I will not pursue it farther in this thread.
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Do you have this claim on another thread? If not start a thread. Let me know where it is.
 
Here is the answer plain and simple. Catholics are bashed because we are the one true faith, started by Christ Himself! The fact of the matter is, in those famous words of that movie, A Few Good Men, “You can’t handle the truth!” People don’t like catholics because we are filled with tradition, morals, and a sense of decency. Christ gave us 7 sacraments; protestants have 2. Protestants chose to interpret the bible their own way, hence, there are over 30,000 different denominations of christian faiths.

Funny…catholicism was THE faith, untouched for 1500 years (except Greek & Russian Orthodox churches witch incidentally, the catholic church recognizes as valid), unchanged, beautiful. Now, with so many denominations & interpretations, I defy anyone to tell me that the catholic church is not that of Christ Himself!
 
Hey Katrn!
Catholics do have Jesus Parades but we call 'em Processions. As to the original question, I agree with PadraigPearce in #5. The truth will out.
 
MaryDowny, Whether it is a protestant who does it or an athiest or general nut of any brand , take heart Jesus said to rejoice when you are persecuted, for you must be doing something right to draw it. I had a kid in CCD answer a question I had ask about this very thing and it was wonderful to hear this from one so young. Her answer was " the devil does not fight what he is not afraid of so I think we must be doing what Jesus wants". Beautiful answer. So rejoice and be thankful you are Catholic. His will be done. Garland
 
jazzbass981 said:
Funny…catholicism was THE faith, untouched for 1500 years (except Greek & Russian Orthodox churches witch incidentally, the catholic church recognizes as valid), unchanged, beautiful. Now, with so many denominations & interpretations, I defy anyone to tell me that the catholic church is not that of Christ Himself!
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Someone needs a history lesson. The reformation of the 1500’s was not ANYWHERE NEAR the first split in the Catholic Church.
 
marydowney said:
recently while looking for books online, I came across and ad for a book that stated, quite plainly, Jesus was gay. I have heard and read similar articles in the past, but this took on new lows. There was no “historical,” or “scolarly,” research and noclaims tosuch. Instead there is a vitriolic, outright pornographic discussion in the book,or play since that’s what it is, on the sexuality of Jesus Christ, after he refused the outrageous sexual advances of Mary Magdeline. The book then goes on to state that the Bleesed Mother was in fact not a virgin, and that only "crazy"people would believe this. This book called Claire Silva,is availableonline for anyone (including children) to see and download. Why is this allowed? If this written about Muslims or Jews, there would be an outcry, and talk of diversity and understanding would ensue. But it is against Catholics and that always seems to be okay, whenther in movies, literature, TV, Catholics are bashed from all angles on issues like gay marriage and pro-life choices, and nobody sees anythng wrong in this. Now, plays like Claire Silva, which starts off with a very graphic depiction of a “gentleman’s club,” is allowed to be published online with no editing or checking. Where are our Civil Rights and why does a place like Lulu.com have the right to publish such vulgar, hateful material with no backlash. These self published books are not available at Barnes and Noble or Amazon where there are standards. This is obvioulsy a rant by an author with no regard for decency or the rights and beliefs oftohers. How do we fight this when it comes at us from all sides, especially in ways that verge on pornographic and downright hate?
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You don’t think it’s OK. I don’t think it’s OK and God does not think it’s OK. So who does that leave?🤷
 
Drawmack said:
It is interesting that you see this as Catholic bashing and not Christian bashing.
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I was thinking the same thing- in the examples given, there was nothing particularly Catholic about it. On the other hand, that does not justify it. If it were Muslim-bashing tho, there would be world wide riots, beheadings & threats of jihad… why the difference?
 
PJM said:
You don’t think it’s OK. I don’t think it’s OK and God does not think it’s OK. So who does that leave?🤷
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I think it’s OK. It’s OK to bash anyone. In fact, in these times of congenital whining and political correctness, I suggest a Bash Day, where everyone and everything is bashed with equal vigor and gusto. How about the First of June every year? Then on the Second of June, we could all realize we’re still here, still alive, flowers still bloom, hard drives still fail, the earth continues in its orbit, we have all survived the bashing intact, and all is well.
 
holy_moly said:
I was thinking the same thing- in the examples given, there was nothing particularly Catholic about it. On the other hand, that does not justify it. If it were Muslim-bashing tho, there would be world wide riots, beheadings & threats of jihad… why the difference?
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The Muslims care more.
 
holy_moly said:
I was thinking the same thing- in the examples given, there was nothing particularly Catholic about it. On the other hand, that does not justify it. If it were Muslim-bashing tho, there would be world wide riots, beheadings & threats of jihad… why the difference?
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I wasn’t saying that it made the play okay. There are examples of Muslim bashing all over the internet. However, I think that you make an interesting point. Christianity is a much more peaceful religion, so maybe people feel safer bashing it.
 
=Drawmack;5498028]I just want to make sure I understand something here. It is okay to be rife about Catholic bashing in a play. However, when someone questions that this might be better referred to as Christian bashing than Catholic bashing it is then okay to clearly bash other Christians. Gee, I wonder why people think it’s okay to Catholic bash.
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BTW: altar calls and being led by the Holy Spirit are not practiced by all Protestant denominations. These are purely Calvanistic teachings. You might do well to place a little research into what you wish to publicly bash so you can at least speak intelligently on the topic.
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***Friend,

Not to deminish your well expressed point; but “Catholic Bashing” is “Christian Bashing”👍***
You are quite correct that Catholics need to and rightfully should identify with other Chrisitian Secs. On CAF it is easy to forget this [yep, I’m guilty as charged:blush:] because we are so busy “convereting each other, in very active dabate” that it is easy to forget that, in our own way [that itself seems to be the isssue of contention] are trying to serve the Same God, same Lord, same Jesus Christ. We must take time to give credit where credit is due.

Christians too have found Christ, all though not in the same way, with the same understanding as we Catholics. LOVE is the answer:D***
 
PJM said:
Not to deminish your well expressed point; but “Catholic Bashing” is “Christian Bashing”👍
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I did not mean to imply that Catholics are not Christians. I know you got this from the way your post reads, but I’d like to clarify anyway (because I’m an annal cuss).

When someone calls something Catholic bashing this implies that it does not bash other secs of Christianity. So, one would expect the bashing to hit on something particularly Catholic (the Sacraments, prayer to saints, etc). When something does not hit on a particularly Catholic concept it is better referred to as Christian bashing since it does not single out Catholics over other Christians. If I ran across someone calling this Lutheran, Methodist, Pentecostal, Baptist, etc bashing I would have said the same thing to them.
You are quite correct that Catholics need to and rightfully should identify with other Chrisitian Secs. On CAF it is easy to forget this [yep, I’m guilty as charged:blush:] because we are so busy “convereting each other, in very active dabate” that it is easy to forget that, in our own way [that itself seems to be the isssue of contention] are trying to serve the Same God, same Lord, same Jesus Christ. We must take time to give credit where credit is due.
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I think that ecumenism is lacking on both sides when it comes to discussion between Protestants and Catholics. I think that both side disseminate much half-truth as fact. And, this leads to a further division in the secs than there needs to be.
Christians too have found Christ, all though not in the same way, with the same understanding as we Catholics. LOVE is the answer:D
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The way you worded this last statement is very interesting to me.
 
My orginal comment:
Christians too have found Christ, all though not in the same way, with the same understanding as we Catholics. LOVE is the answer
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The reply:
The way you worded this last statement is very interesting to me
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Very perceptive. 🙂 Everything I share, teach, explain and defend stems from the understanding that in the end on every topic and issue there can be but ONE TRUTH. Pope Benedict explains it well: "there cannot be my truth and you’re truth; or there would be NO truth:thumbsup:

***Catholism after 2,000 years still cling to ONE Branch and 22 vines.

Protestants seem to have growen in a different direction with mutiple brances and an extreme variety and number of branches.

The consequence of these facts are what we discusss on the Forum.

Love and prayers,***
 
Unfortunately Christian bashing is fashionable right now, and when society finds something fashionable there’s practically nothing we can do to stop it. I think right now all we can do is stand up for ourselves and most important not attack back. We must show the world that we truly live the message of Christ.
 
PJM said:
My orginal comment:
Christians too have found Christ, all though not in the same way, with the same understanding as we Catholics. LOVE is the answer
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What I found interesting is that the way you phrased the comment infers that Catholics are not Christians. This was inferred by your choice of the word Christians instead of saying Protestants or something similar. DO NOT MISUNDERSTAND ME: Catholics are Christians and that is the first thing I say when my Protestant friends start talking about Catholics as if they are not. I’m simply pointing out that your words make this implication.
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=johngh;5514376]Unfortunately Christian bashing is fashionable right now, and when society finds something fashionable there’s practically nothing we can do to stop it. I think right now all we can do is stand up for ourselves and most important not attack back. We must show the world that we truly live the message of Christ.
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***You are of course RIGHT:D

Besides “the devil made ‘me’ do it” 🤷***

Love and prayers,
 
Peace be with you all. A lot of the reasons why people bash Catholics is ignorance. The best way to combat that is by taking a good apologetics course, so that you will have the ammunition to confront those who have complete wrong information, but always do it in the spirit of Christian charity. Don’t try to pick a fight.

As for the ridiculous anti-Catholic movies, literature, etc. that is being put out, ignore it. Calling attention to it puts fuel on the fire. It will go away on its own, like bad fruit. Also, don’t bash other religions. When the time comes, and if members of these religions are interested, gently lead them in the direction of the Catholic Church.

It is sad to see that so many criticize the Church without knowing what they are talking about, even members of Protestant denominations who really should know better. About 10 years ago I was homeless and lived for a time at a local mission. In order to stay there I had to attend chapel services every evening, and church on Sunday (In the rule book it said a “Bible-believing church.” ) I attended the chapel, which was totally Protestant, with a different preacher every night, and some of the anti-Catholic stuff I heard was appalling. I
I complained to the staff. They listened, but didn’t do anything. I went to Mass on Sunday, bringing back a bulletin as proof of attendance. They gave me weird looks, but said nothing.

It boggles the mind that there are a great many Protestants who truly believe that Catholics are not Christian, and also have the idea that Catholics added books to the Bible–when in reality it was Protestants who took out seven books of the OT! and even educated people believe that nonsense. Also a lot of them say that we do not read the Bible. There are many fine Bible courses for Catholics out there. I took a four-year course in Biblical studies through my church and it was one of the best uses of time and money I ever spent. In short, education is the key. And we need to pray for those who are ignorant or have a spirit of hate toward Catholics.
 
ML561 said:
It boggles the mind that there are a great many Protestants who truly believe that Catholics are not Christian,
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This I agree with completely. Anyone – ANYONE – who accepts the divinity of Christ is a Christian. Catholics meet this definition.
and also have the idea that Catholics added books to the Bible–when in reality it was Protestants who took out seven books of the OT!
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What’s really interesting is that this is a half-truth propagated by both sides. The Catholics accuse the Protestant of removing books; the Protestants accuse the Catholics of adding books; neither is true.

There were, during the period when the New Testament was written, two accepted collections of Jewish Cannon. The Eastern Jews (i.e. the Greeks) utilized a set of Cannon which included the Deuterocannon (sp?). The Western Jews utilized a set of Cannon which did not include this set of books because they were originally written in Greek. The Catholics utilize one set and the Protestants utilize the other set. It should be noted that there are many Protestant Bibles which include the Deuterocannon books.

You see, neither set added or removed books, they simply followed different Jewish sects in determining the OT Cannon.

There is a ton of misinformation and half-truth on both sides of the coin.
Also a lot of them say that we do not read the Bible. There are many fine Bible courses for Catholics out there. I took a four-year course in Biblical studies through my church and it was one of the best uses of time and money I ever spent. In short, education is the key. And we need to pray for those who are ignorant or have a spirit of hate toward Catholics.
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What about those who are educated, read the documents on both sides of the reformation and agreed with Luther or Calvin? What about the fact that for a Catholic to read a work by a heretic is for a Catholic to incur Latae Sententiae Excommunication (see the article on excommunication from newadvent.org for proof of this) so the Catholic can only read what the Catholic Church decides to publish about Protestants?

I think that a lot of the problem with any type of ecumenical discourse is that there is a lack of education and knowledge on both sides. You cannot believe what the Catholic Church teaches about Protestants and you cannot believe what Protestant Churches teach about Catholics. You have got to go to the source on both counts.
 
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