S
SIA
Guest
??? What kind of question is that? Nothing is wrong with loving Mary.
??? What kind of question is that? Nothing is wrong with loving Mary.
From the anonymous hymn ‘Mary the Dawn’:This passage from Solomon’s *Song of Songs (Canticle of Canticles) [6:10] *is sometimes attributed to the Blessed Virgin Mary and adopted by various Marian devotional groups. I believe St. Bernard of Clairvaux was one of the first to give it Marian connotations:
“Who is she that cometh forth like the dawn, as fair as the moon, as bright as the sun, as terrible as an army set in battle array?”
Although in the previous post’s analogy Mary is not the source of Light (sun) but merely reflects that light (moon), she is also called the dawn because she precedes (or quietly announces) the approach of the morning light…just as chronologically she preceded the incarnation…Christ came to us through her.
Although the Blessed Virgin may not be the souce of “Light”, in one respect, she is the souce of Christ’s Precious Blood…the Blood shed on Calvary…the Blood that saves us,washes us, makes us whole again. She conceived without human intervention. This means that Christ’s Precious Blood drew its biological identity out of the blood of his Mother.
*Dear Mary,** My letter (prayer) to Mary**
So it could be simply Jesus wanting to do for his mother the same thing any of us would do for ours if we could.You bring up a point that I forget far too often Good Fella (great post btw); it’s something I’d heard in sermons initially: That from antiquity, in the Old Testament, the honor of queen belonged to the mother of the king and not his wife.
The following website provides some solid scriptural foundation bearing out that fact: home.inreach.com/bstanley/queen.htm
In a different twist, It was the emperor Constantine who restored the title of “Augustus” to his mother (325 AD) after his father Constantius Chlorus, Caesar of the Western Roman Empire had died. Constantius Chlorus had divorced Constantine’s mother (293 AD) as ordered by Diocletian in order to marry Theodora and then qualify as Caesar of the Western Roman Empire.
Constantine’s mother is of course St. Helen, who is accredited with finding the original Cross of Christ.
Yep…that would be a good start…So it could be simply Jesus wanting to do for his mother the same thing any of us would do for ours if we could.
I would like to hear the “official” non-Catholic, Protestant and/or “former Catholic” response to this, if there is one, my guess is that there are many different Protestant “twists” on this subject.
Mary the Mother of God - in the BibleLuke 2:33-35
33 The child’s father and mother were amazed at what was said about him;
34 and Simeon blessed them and said to Mary his mother, “Behold, this child is destined for the fall and rise of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will be contradicted
35 (and you yourself a sword will pierce) 11 so that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.”
Melanie Anne, congratulations upon the recent birth of your grandchild. He or she is luckier than I am, having four living mothers, if we include grandmothers.He noted that we Catholics are blessed to have 3 Mothers ~
One of the more remarkable stories that Fr. Rutler told in the program I viewed concerned fussy babies at baptism. Since I am the grandmother of a recently born “fussy baby” this got my attention. His experience has shown that fussy babies quiet down when they are given the chance to view our Holy Mother Mary.
Now isn’t that remarkable? There’s a connection, one that the baby cannot explain and most likely will not remember later, but the phenomenon has been observed repeatedly by Fr. Rutler, sufficiently often for him to conclude that babies RECOGNIZE Mary and are pacified just by seeing her.
Revelation 12 1-17****
1 1 A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman 2 clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars.
2 She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth. 3
3 Then another sign appeared in the sky; it was a huge red dragon, 4 with seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadems.
4 Its tail swept away a third of the stars in the sky and hurled them down to the earth. Then the dragon stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth.
5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. 5 Her child was caught up to God and his throne.
6 The woman herself fled into the desert where she had a place prepared by God, that there she might be taken care of for twelve hundred and sixty days. 6
7 7 Then war broke out in heaven; Michael 8 and his angels battled against the dragon. The dragon and its angels fought back,
8 but they did not prevail and there was no longer any place for them in heaven.
9 The huge dragon, the ancient serpent, 9 who is called the Devil and Satan, who deceived the whole world, was thrown down to earth, and its angels were thrown down with it.
10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have salvation and power come, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Anointed. For the accuser 10 of our brothers is cast out, who accuses them before our God day and night.
11 They conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; love for life did not deter them from death.
12 Therefore, rejoice, you heavens, and you who dwell in them. But woe to you, earth and sea, for the Devil has come down to you in great fury, for he knows he has but a short time.”
13 When the dragon saw that it had been thrown down to the earth, it pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child.
14 But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle, 11 so that she could fly to her place in the desert, where, far from the serpent, she was taken care of for a year, two years, and a half-year.
15 The serpent, 12 however, spewed a torrent of water out of his mouth after the woman to sweep her away with the current.
16 But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth and swallowed the flood that the dragon spewed out of its mouth.
17 Then the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God’s commandments and bear witness to Jesus. 13 (18) It took its position 14 on the sand of the sea.
Martin Luther and the early so-called Reformers rejected the Book of Judith, the Jewish heroine who prefigures Mary, although the following passage from this book contains a striking parallel with the Book of Genesis and the Gospel of Luke, which have been retained in the Protestant Bible. I invite everyone to observe Judith 13, 18-20.I would like to hear the “official” non-Catholic, Protestant and/or “former Catholic” response to this, if there is one, my guess is that there are many different Protestant “twists” on this subject.
Is anyone here afraid of being guilty of the sin of apostasy or heresy?
Why so some Protestant, non-Catholics and some “former Catholics” have a “problem” with Mary?
Mary the Mother of God - in the Bible
Genesis 3:15
Revelation 1:1-17
Isaiah 7:14
Luke 1:27-38
Matthew 1:18-25
Luke 1:39-45
Luke 1:46-56 (song of Mary)
Luke 2:5-7
Luke 2:16-20
Luke 2:48-51
John 2:1-12
Mark 6:3-5
Matthew 13:55-58
Matthew 1;16,17
Matthew 2:11,12
John 19: 25-27
Acts 1:12–14
This question has a simple answer: **It’s not wrong to love Mary. **
Have you ever read Luke 11:27-28?http://davenation.com/madonnas/found/La_Vierge_au_lys.jpg
Why is it wrong to love Mary?
My letter (prayer) to Mary
Dear Mary,
=
*You are the Mother of God and my mother too. You were the perfect Mother and the perfect disciple. Mary, you were the one chosen (handpicked) by God from all time and all woman to be the Mother of God. You are the precious vessel and the way my Lord entered the world. **You have always done the “will of our heavenly Father” and are by Jesus’ definition, His “brother, and sister, and mother” (His loyal servant, follower and disciple). Please pray for me that I may always be a loyal follower of your Son, as you are. You have shown me how to Love your Son. You are the Mother of God and Jesus’ disciple. *
*You are the only person who ever lived that was with Jesus from the beginning, until the end at the foot of His cross. You held the baby Jesus in your arms, loving Him and protecting Him, never letting Him go, until he was taken from you at the Cross. You never denied him or left Him. You remained quite because you knew that you would have to suffer so that the rest of mankind might be saved. You were there in the upper room during Pentecost! *
*As for your name in scripture, there exists not a single word against you. There is no finer example of a person who has completely surrendered himself to the will of God, as you Mary. You were truly, madly in love with your Son Jesus and who from the beginning; you knew He was “God with us”. Your perfect expression of surrender, “May it be done to me according to your word” is the source of my strength. *
*Mary, you kept many things in your heart and reflected on them, you truly knew the Lord before any of the apostles and He knew you. When you brought the baby Jesus to Simeon, His destiny was revealed to you; before any other disciples knew, you knew! “A sword pierced your own heart, so that the thoughts of many hearts would be known”. *
*I can only imagine how you must have suffered and the strength you must have needed to continue on to the very end, to the foot of His cross. I love you Mary, thank you. You encouraged Him at the wedding at Cana, the point in which your Son, Jesus and our Lord began His ministry, you said, “do as He says”, may these words always be a reminder to me to, "do as He says "You loved Jesus with all of your heart, all of your soul, all of your mind and all of your strength. Has there been anyone as devoted to my Lord, as you? *
*Blessed Mary, the Lord is with you, you are blessed among all women and all generations will consider you blessed. You have been reunited with your Lord, how sweet that must be. Mary, my mother, please pray for me that the Lord have mercy on me a sinner and that one day I can come home to the Lord. *
Thank you Mary and pray for me that I may always think of your great example of love, sacrifice and surrender. One cannot think about you, Mary without thinking about your son Jesus. I am madly in love with you and I am madly in love with your son, my lord Jesus Christ. May my focus allows be on Christ, as you were always focused on Him.
=
Your son and Christ’s loyal follower,
=
Jimmy Brousseau
Protestants who claim that Holy Scripture speaks very little of Mary should look again, and while they are at it, they should take a peak in the Deuterocanonical Books. Scripture isn’t silent with regard to Mary, who plays a vital role in our salvation, assisting Christ. The first prophecy about the Messiah is the Protoevangelium in Genesis 3, 15. This prophecy makes it clear that a woman will play an essential role, by the will of God, in the redemption of mankind, for it was a woman who contributed to the fall of man.
Pax vobiscum
Good Fella
Genesis 3:15 is talking about Eve! She was referred to as “the woman” a lot in Genesis; Mary never was.