Why is it wrong to love Mary?

[Jimmy_B]

by Jimmy B

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“You loved Jesus with all of your heart, all of your soul, all of your mind and all of your strength. Has there been anyone as devoted to my Lord, as you?”

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Luke 1

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46 And Mary said: "My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord; 47 my spirit rejoices in God my savior.

 

[Jimmy_B]

The blessed Mother is a big “sticking point” for many Christians, preventing them from coming home to the Roman Catholic faith and it shouldn’t be. All that is needed is for our Christian friends to know how we love Mary (not worship) and how for many of us, she brings us closer to Jesus. What is wrong with that?

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Catechism of the Catholic Church

**148 **The Virgin Mary most perfectly embodies the obedience of faith. By faith Mary welcomes the tidings and promise brought by the angel Gabriel, believing that “with God nothing will be impossible” and so giving her assent: “Behold I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be [done] to me according to your word.” Elizabeth greeted her: “Blessed is she who believed that there would be a fulfillment of what was spoken to her from the Lord.” It is for this faith that all generations have called Mary blessed.
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[Righteousone]

^No. What Protestants would say is:

WHOEVER TOLD YOU ITS WRONG TO LOVE MARY??? Our beef is the worship of Mary, not the love for her.

How many times do we have to tell you people that we DO NOT worship Mary? It’s like you purposely want to aggravate b/c that’s all you have on Catholics. Knock it off b/c you know that we DO NOT worship Mary at all. What is wrong with you?:banghead: :banghead:

 

[Righteousone]

In reference to the text in bold…

That statement would apply to all saints. Catholics also pray to St. Anthony, St. Peregrine, St. Monica, St. Augustine, St. Terese of Liseux, and literally thousands of saints.

Catholics call that “some kind of all knowing power” the Communion of Saints.

The Blessed Virgin Mary is the first among these saints.

What the heck is a "quasi-traditional Catholic???

 

[jkarp]

i said ‘some kind’ of ominiscience. catholics dont say it outright, but thats what it logically amounts to: millions of catholics praying to her all at the same time…you’ll need some kind of ‘all knowing’ powers in order to recieve and understand all those simultaneous messages coming long distance from earth.

It is interesting to hear my faith being taught to me by someone who neither lives it nor has studied it (it’s almost like being back in CCD).

(OK, the comment about CCD was unnecessary).

 

[Jimmy_B]

Dont worry, they share your concerns. For protestants they are sad that you cant appreciate how they devote their full attention to Jesus, instead of dividing their time between God and the saints…like you do.

to each his own.

to each his own.

har har har.

I know don’t know about all that, there are many Protestants who do think (wrongly) that Catholics worship Mary. They only stop with the whole “worship” thing when they are proven wrong and then slide right into the whole “taking their attention off of Jesus” thing.

“they devote their full attention to Jesus, instead of dividing their time between God and the saints…like you do”

Where do these make believe “one liners” come from anyways? Comments like this one, only work on people who can’t or won’t take the next logical step.

Are these people trying to say that they worship Jesus, every second of every minute of every day? Of course not, that is ridicules, they go to work, watch TV, and play video games and so on.

This is “hit and run” Christianity at it’s best.

Isn’t that stuff, video games, TV and alike, “taking their attention” or “taking their eyes off Jesus”? It seems to me that thinking about Mary, the Mother of Jesus would be a little closer than a video game.

This is crazy made up nonsense that defies logic and it is hypocritical.

In a religious context; for one to say that because Catholics love Mary, the Mother of God and that this love of Mary brings them closer to Jesus, isn’t any different than saying; “I read the Bible and that brings me closer to Jesus”.

Jesus is not the “bible” a book on a shelf in your house. A bible did not die on the Cross.

His (Jesus’) words are in the bible and the bible is inspired by God, but it is not actually Jesus and the bible is not part of the Holy Trinity. The bible leads us to Jesus, it is not however, in fact, Jesus. Do Protestants “worship” their bibles?

Comments like this sound good in a vacuum, but if one actually stops for one second and thinks about it, and applies it to real life, it sounds as it is, ridicules. This is what you get from the religion of “sound-bites” false/bad personal interpretations and a lack of any knowledge regarding the Roman Catholic Faith.

 

[2ndGen]

^No. What Protestants would say is:

WHOEVER TOLD YOU ITS WRONG TO LOVE MARY??? Our beef is the worship of Mary, not the love for her.

Yet not one Protestant church loves Mary.

 

[2ndGen]

An observation.

For Protestants Mary is merely as important as Moses & David. Noted in paper but nothing more.

For Catholics, they make it an effort to love Mary. I know why. Its because catholics think that Mary has some kind of omniscient power that she could hear their every prayers to her. And in return they believe that Mary could keep persuading God to give Catholics a special attention.

Rev 5:8/8:3/12:1/12:17 answers everything you just stated.

Do you still believe that Protestants love Mary more than Muslims after I fullfilled your requests for proofs?

 

[2ndGen]

Dont worry, they share your concerns. For protestants they are sad that you cant appreciate how they devote their full attention to Jesus, instead of dividing their time between God and the saints…like you do.

to each his own.

to each his own.

har har har.

Actually, you could speak to a Protestant for an hour and not hear them mention the word “God” once. Only Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.

 

[2ndGen]

i said ‘some kind’ of ominiscience. catholics dont say it outright, but thats what it logically amounts to: millions of catholics praying to her all at the same time…you’ll need some kind of ‘all knowing’ powers in order to recieve and understand all those simultaneous messages coming long distance from earth.

Yeah…like the Saints have in heaven as they carry our prayers to God.

 

[2ndGen]

Jimmy, while the non-Mary lovers are busy explaining to Jesus why they worked to belittle her and to impune her well deserved reputation of purity, I will run up to mommy in Heaven and get my hug (then she’ll scold me for having been a little bit too rough on those that did harm to her name).

Then, she’ll call the ones who belittled her and give them her mercy and hugs as well.

How could one “not” venerate and revere The Mother of God on earth?

Well, at least 2 Billion + of the world does (Catholics, Muslims and some Protestants).

Protestants, you better hop on board!

LOL

 

[AgnosTheist]

On what parts do Catholics place Her and God on the same level?

mind you, i said ‘appears to be’. thats how they see what catholics are doing when you ‘appear’ to praise mary as much as you praise god. sometimes it even looks like she gets more attention.

The OP asked ‘Why is it wrong to love Mary?’. Protestants would say its wrong to love Mary more than God.

 

[AgnosTheist]

That statement would apply to all saints. Catholics also pray to St. Anthony, St. Peregrine, St. Monica, St. Augustine, St. Terese of Liseux, and literally thousands of saints.

Catholics call that “some kind of all knowing power” the Communion of Saints.

The Blessed Virgin Mary is the first among these saints.

And Protestants are against praying to anybody except God. They think praying to St.Whatever is a form of idolatry. Had God shared some of his ‘all knowing’ capability to them? That idea is unacceptable to protestants without biblical support.

 

[AgnosTheist]

How could one “not” venerate and revere The Mother of God on earth?

Protestants dont think Mary could hear a single prayer. So whats the point?

Also, for them if Mary knows that people are praying to her she would advise them to pray directly to jesus instead.

To each his own. Right?

 

[AgnosTheist]

Actually, you could speak to a Protestant for an hour and not hear them mention the word “God” once. Only Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.

FYI, in Christianity Jesus is God. You see? Youve been too devoted to Mary that you have forgotten that basic & essential christian fact.

 

[Lev23]

FYI, in Christianity Jesus is God. You see? Youve been too devoted to Mary that you have forgotten that basic & essential christian fact.

good point

 

[Zenas]

Why is it wrong to love Mary?

I think you have asked the wrong question, Jimmy B. Protestants just don’t perceive Mary as you do. The overwhelming majority of protestants believe Mary is dead. They don’t believe she lived a sinless life, they don’t believe in the assumption and they don’t believe Mary is queen of saints and angels. They do believe she is in Heaven, just like Lydia, Mary Magdalene, Peter, John and all the other N.T. saints. But they don’t believe Mary or any of the other saints have the ability to perceive events that are happening on earth. So how do you love (or hate) someone with whom you have no contact, but only a hope of getting to know someday in Heaven? It’s like my grandmother who I never met. I am told she was a Godly woman but I have no feelings for her because I never knew her. So it is not wrong to love Mary, it’s just not possible.

I’m not endorsing this theology but I know it correctly portrays the overwhelming sentiment among protestants.

 

[2ndGen]

mind you, i said ‘appears to be’. thats how they see what catholics are doing when you ‘appear’ to praise mary as much as you praise god. sometimes it even looks like she gets more attention.

The OP asked ‘Why is it wrong to love Mary?’. Protestants would say its wrong to love Mary more than God.

That’s your best post here AT.

And that also would show a Protestant’s ignorance (said nuetrally, not in an insulting manner).

 

[2ndGen]

And Protestants are against praying to anybody except God. They think praying to St.Whatever is a form of idolatry. Had God shared some of his ‘all knowing’ capability to them? That idea is unacceptable to protestants without biblical support.

Yet they pray to their fellow Protestants to pray for them.

Being that “pray” means to request, whenever they request a prayer on their behalf (aka intercession), they are praying to the person they requested the prayer from.

 

[2ndGen]

Protestants dont think Mary could hear a single prayer. So whats the point?

Also, for them if Mary knows that people are praying to her she would advise them to pray directly to jesus instead.

To each his own. Right?

The point is that they are wrong to believe that a Saint cannot hear their prayer.

It’s an unbiblical belief that was introduced to them in the last quarter of Christianity.

As for what Mary would do, she didn’t send the wedding’s wine steward to Jesus directly. She went to Jesus on their behalf, interceding for them. And, her telling Jesus what was needed obviously got the job done. The wedding had wine again.

Or course to each his/her own, but somebody needs to tell Protestants that criticize Christians who pray to Mary that.