"Why is Marriage so important?"

[CrimsonThorn]

You hear all these arguements from Non/Anti-Catholics who believe that absolutely nothing changes when the exchange of vows have taken place during Holy Matrimony. That marriage is just about two people who decide to stick around and that marriage is not an essential part of a relationship, and argue that a relationship can be just as committed without marriage.

So why, then, do all these same Non/Anti-Catholics argue so fervently in support of same sex “marriage” if nothing changes and the exchanging of vows mean nothing and they don’t need an official marriage to apparently be so committed?

 

[MarcoPolo]

They would say because they have the “right” to make that decision to call themselves married and get all the tax breaks and be “recognized” as a legitimate married couple like any male-female marriage. There are all kinds of problems with all that, but I’m guessing that’s the response, or something like that.

 

[waanju]

The same reason that some people say that there is absolutely NO difference between men and women, but claim that some people were “born into the wrong body” and should get a sex change.

 

[CatherineOH]

render unto Cesar what is Cesar’s.
If Cesar wants to collect more funds by issuing more certificates, let him. That does not make a Marriage.

You’ll find my opinion in another tread still ongone on Marriage.

Would you say everyone out there who has a Driver’s license is a good driver?

 

[bitznbitez]

You hear all these arguements from Non/Anti-Catholics who believe that absolutely nothing changes when the exchange of vows have taken place during Holy Matrimony. That marriage is just about two people who decide to stick around and that marriage is not an essential part of a relationship, and argue that a relationship can be just as committed without marriage.

So why, then, do all these same Non/Anti-Catholics argue so fervently in support of same sex “marriage” if nothing changes and the exchanging of vows mean nothing and they don’t need an official marriage to apparently be so committed?

The goal of both arguments is the same, its just an attack on different fronts. The goal is to destroy marriage either by doing away with it or else by completely changing its definition.

The idea that marriage exists for the creation and care of kids, in a stable safe environment seems foreign to those who thing marriage is just a legal construct to make their own amusements ‘not sinful’. The idea that marriage is not about those who enter into it but about the care and upbringing of those produced by it.

It took me a long time to come to understand the beauty of catholic teaching on marriage.

 

[CrimsonThorn]

render unto Cesar what is Cesar’s.
If Cesar wants to collect more funds by issuing more certificates, let him. That does not make a Marriage.

You’ll find my opinion in another tread still ongone on Marriage.

Would you say everyone out there who has a Driver’s license is a good driver?

That’s not what I was getting at.

They claim marriage means nothing, but treat it like its everything.

 

[ValPal]

You hear all these arguements from Non/Anti-Catholics who believe that absolutely nothing changes when the exchange of vows have taken place during Holy Matrimony. That marriage is just about two people who decide to stick around and that marriage is not an essential part of a relationship, and argue that a relationship can be just as committed without marriage.

So why, then, do all these same Non/Anti-Catholics argue so fervently in support of same sex “marriage” if nothing changes and the exchanging of vows mean nothing and they don’t need an official marriage to apparently be so committed?

Non-Catholics generally don’t understand Catholic marriage in the first place, in addition to supporting divorce in the context of bailing out whenever they feel like it. Nothing takes place to such people, because they simply don’t understand what is taking place.

 

[CrimsonThorn]

The goal of both arguments is the same, its just an attack on different fronts. The goal is to destroy marriage either by doing away with it or else by completely changing its definition.

The idea that marriage exists for the creation and care of kids, in a stable safe environment seems foreign to those who thing marriage is just a legal construct to make their own amusements ‘not sinful’. The idea that marriage is not about those who enter into it but about the care and upbringing of those produced by it.

It took me a long time to come to understand the beauty of catholic teaching on marriage.

Exactly, but do not any one of them realize they are contradicting themselves? Do they just not care?

 

[bitznbitez]

Exactly, but do not any one of them realize they are contradicting themselves? Do they just not care?

Thinking of myself in the past… I didn’t realize I was contradicting myself, how much I didn’t care I do not know, that could have been part of it.

For others I’m sure it varies.

 

[hannajomar]

Steven Crowder writes about saving sex until his wedding night. Using his own experience, he basically describes how when society removed sex and other intimacies from marriage, marriage has come to mean nothing. The morning after their wedding, they met a woman in the hotel lobby who had also gotten married the day before. Her comment about getting married was, “the thing is, nothing’s really changed. …”

Then I realized something. Our wedding was truly a once in a lifetime event. It was a God’s-honest celebration of two completely separate lives now becoming one. Physically, emotionally, financially and spiritually, everything that made us who we were individually was becoming what bonded us together. Our family traveled from far and wide to celebrate the decision of two young people to truly commit themselves to each other, and selflessly give themselves to one another in a way that they never had before that very night.
The people next to us that morning? Well, theirs was just one big party. And the morning after? Just another hangover.
Our “weddings” were the same event in name only. They know it, and we know it.
Do yours the right way. If you’re young and wondering whether you should wait, whether you should just give in, become a live-in harlot/mimbo and do it the world’s way. If you’re wondering whether all of the mocking, the ridicule, the incredible difficulty of saving yourself for your spouse is worth it, let me tell you without a doubt that it is. Your wedding can be the most memorable day and night of your life… or just another party.

I recommend the whole article. I thought it was very insightful, and I related to how they were judged for saving sex until marriage.
“Waiting till the wedding night – getting married the right way”
Read more: foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/14/staying-celibate-before-marriage-was-best-thing-ive-ever-done/#ixzz29fkM5nYe

 

[thebookofesther]

render unto Cesar what is Cesar’s.
If Cesar wants to collect more funds by issuing more certificates, let him. That does not make a Marriage.

You’ll find my opinion in another tread still ongone on Marriage.

Would you say everyone out there who has a Driver’s license is a good driver?

I’m afraid it’s more complicated than that, if they can get a license you’re acknowledging a new protected class, which means speech written against them would be banned, such as the word of God for starters. See Canadian and Colordao laws to see where it has started close to home or to countries like Denmark for what the future holds and worse.

 

[djames99]

“who believe”

there is no longer a choice in what to believe. Christ closed all the clubs on freechoice boulevard. Instead, he gave us the direction and insisted we go to his Church on true_salvation street.

“So why, then, do all these same Non/Anti-Catholics argue so fervently in support of same sex “marriage” if nothing changes and the exchanging of vows mean nothing and they don’t need an official marriage to apparently be so committed?”

Because scripture tells us they are lost who obstinately desire to distance themselves from the teaching Authority of the True Church. They can now expect a doctrine to suit every opinion, errors accepted. Even in the protestant church consensus has always been a problem, with leaders being ignored or being put down.

“marriage”

www.newadvent.org (“M”/marriage)

 

[CatherineOH]

I’m afraid it’s more complicated than that, if they can get a license you’re acknowledging a new protected class, which means speech written against them would be banned, such as the word of God for starters. See Canadian and Colorado laws to see where it has started close to home or to countries like Denmark for what the future holds and worse.

Wow, You’all are really stretching it. Is that y’all you have? another country and Colorado law? and comparing a country which is NOTHING like the US in any way to what holds for the future? I classify that as a Gumby example.

Colorado is one of the few states for same sex marriages. The number is getting fewer every day too. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not for same sex marriage civilly or in the church. I however am not against it if it means doing away with rights we already have. Ohio, Idaho, Nevada, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Maryland, Kentucky, Virginia, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Florida, Louisiana, Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Montana, Idaho, Tennessee, Mississippi, Arizona, Missouri, Indiana, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Minnesota, Wyoming. Who have taken away rights from heterosexual marriages of different forms to accommodate a law.

You’all are really stretching it. All this bickering between states is going to throw it to the US Supreme court to make a decision like happened with the Abortion laws and why Roe vs Wade happened, and look where we are on that.

I’m outta here.