Why Is Muhammad The Greatest?

[De_Maria]

What Notable Non-Muslims have said about Islam and Muhammad, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him.

Michael H. Hart of USA, compiled a ranking list of the 100 most influential persons in the entire history of humankind and authored the book “The 100 most influential persons", published in 1978 by Hart Publishing Company Inc. He ranked Muhammad peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, as the number one, at the top of his list…

It is interesting that he would rank Mohammed #1. But its just an opinion. I wonder what criteria he used?

Interestingly, the religious affiliation of those 100 people is as follows:

Religious Affiliation % in List
Catholic 31%
Anglican/Episcopalian 13%
Jewish 7%
Atheist 6%
Greco-Roman paganism 6%
Chinese traditional religion/Confucianism 5% Lutheran 5%
Russian Orthodox 4%
pre-Nicene Christianity 3%
Platonism 3%
Islam 2%
Hindu 2%
Buddhist 2%
Presbyterian 2%
Zoroastrian 2%
Manicheanism 2%
Quaker 2%
Unitarian/Universalist 2%
Calvinist 2%
Jain 1%
Jansenist 1%
United Brethren 1%
Congregationalist 1%
Dutch Reformed 1%
Egyptian paganism 1%
Mongolian shamanism 1%
Taoism 1%
Baptist 1%
Sandemanian 1%
Protestant (denomination unknown) 6%
unknown 5%

adherents.com/adh_influ.html

Its strange that he would list mostly Christians as the most influential people in the world by far, yet he doesn’t recognize their Teacher as the most influential.

Sincerely,

De Maria

 

[Charlie_Zeaiter]

You have addressed the Muslims. Of course Muslims do not know as much about bible as you do. But this laying of Jesus on the sabath day was a bit curious matter. Was it unusual or something wrong. People used to die on Sabath day. Were they never buried on that day?? I hope not.

Jesus also died on Friday. He was hurriedly laid to rest in a big room like tomb on same day, Friday. They were in a hury to bury him before the great sabath. Do you mean to say that they failed to bury him before the Sabath?? He was not buried anyhow in a proper way and no buryial rites were performed on him at all… Is that so?? Does burial of Jesus on sabath day make him greater than Muhammad?? That is the topic.

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Hi again planten,

Firstly, there are lots of muslims who know alot about the bible. But religion being the freedom of the will, can not be forced upon anybody, and plenty of people choose not to believe it.

Secondly, I dont know if burials were ever done on a Sabbath. But I do know, in the specific case of Christ, that it was asked to take the body down off the cross because they did not want to leave it up there during the Sabbath. (Because, I assume, they would have had to wait until after the Sabbath to do so, and they were probably worried that the body may have decomposed badly by then. :twocents See John 19:31 for more info. I’m assuming that the burial was done very late on Friday, perhaps even at the break of the Sabbath (which occurs at sunset in Jewish reckoning).

And finally, the answer to the big question is “yes”. I do believe that Jesus laying rest during the Sabbath makes him greater than Muhammed, because this death was foretold in the beginning at creation. Consider the following; God finished creating the world on a Friday, and rested on the Saturday (see Genesis 1). Jesus finished his redemptive work (ie, saving the world - on the cross) on a Friday, and was laid resting (ie, in death) on a Saturday.

I realise that many people will dismiss this parallel probably because of the exact timing of the burial. (And some people can’t see the forest because the trees are in the way.) But to me, it is fascinating because I’m a big fan of prophecy.

 

[Selene]

The Fourth Commandment: "All that first issues from the womb is mine… "

The Seventh Commandment: “You must not offer the blood of the victim sacrificed to me at the same time as you offer unleavened bread…”

The Ritual Decalogue: Exodus 34:10-28

xan

jonathon

The 4th Commandment is “honor your father and mother.” The 7th Commandment is “thou shalt not steal.” These were the moral law that Jesus was referring to when he said, “I have come not to abolish the law and the prophets but to fulfill it.” Toward the end of Jesus’ speech, he recites the Golden Rule: Matthew 7:12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. This is also aligned with what St. Paul stated in Romans 13:8-10.

As you can see in the parable of the goats and the sheeps, God did not judge them according to whether they ate pork or whether they sacrificed animal. They were judged according to whether they loved their neighbors or not ( See Matthew 25:31-46).

 

[paarsurrey]

God did not judge them according to whether they ate pork or whether they sacrificed animal. They were judged according to whether they loved their neighbors or not ( See Matthew 25:31-46).

Hi

I think the Catholics should no eat pork, it is not only prophibited in the last canon LawofMuhammad but it was also prophibited in the LawofMoses which even JesusYeshuaIssa believed in, rather followed it and preached it as commanded by GodAllahYHWH.

I think Jesus despised eating pork. When Jesus’ followers started eating port, that gave an indication and meant, I think, it was a time of changing hands of the Covenant from Issac to the descendants of Ishmael.
The other commandment of loving one’s neighbors is nice; and that should also be followed by the Catholics.

Thanks

 

[planten]

I would say it’s perfectly okay for a Jew not to eak pork, since Judaism forbids. Jews are not bound by Christian dietary laws, just as Christians are not bound by Jewish dietary laws.

Vickie

You cannot break off all relation to your predecessors. Jesus, his mother Mary and all his disciples were Jews. So it is better for you to (become Jews and) keep some connection with the Jewish law. Jesus cannot come and teach something entirely different from the elder and older prophets such as Moses and Jacob and Abraham. That is as far as pork is concerned, at least.

 

[paarsurrey]

because this death

Hi

I would like to submit with humbleness that if this is the only argument of proving greatness of Jesus on Muhammad with the Catholics, then as I understand it never happened.

The **Catholic understanding **of the Sign of Jonah did not get fullfilled; it is the Muslim understanding that got fullfilled.

Thanks

 

[ralphinal]

It is off the subject, but there are four main reasons that Christians are not bound to the dietary laws.

First, Jesus taught that it is what comes out of the man’s heart and not what goes into the mouth that makes one unclean. We cannot become impure by food but by thought, desire, and deed.

Second, in Acts, Peter had a dream that God told him that what God had created was not unclean. He was told to rise and eat.

Third, in the Council of Jerusalem, it was decided that gentile converts would not be held to the old Mosaic laws.

Fourth, St. Paul taught that as the law had been fulfilled, there was no more need for Christians to follow it. THe moral laws, the ten commandments, are still in effect, but the food laws, the sacraficial laws, and the need for circumcision are no longer in place

 

[De_Maria]

You cannot break off all relation to your predecessors. Jesus, his mother Mary and all his disciples were Jews. So it is better for you to (become Jews and) keep some connection with the Jewish law. Jesus cannot come and teach something entirely different from the elder and older prophets such as Moses and Jacob and Abraham. That is as far as pork is concerned, at least.

Again, it is because Mohammed did not understand the reasons for the dietary laws that Muslims don’t understand the true faith.

The dietary laws were temporary. They were initiated as symbolism of God separating Israel from the world. All others ate pork. Since Jews were prohibited from eating pork they could not associate closely with those who did. Friends eat together. But Jews could not eat at Gentile tables.

However, Jesus fulfilled all the Old Testament on the Cross. In doing so, the door was opened for Gentiles to enter the Universal Church which Jesus established. At that point, the dietary laws were rescinded as a symbol that all were invited to enter the New Covenant in Jesus’ Blood.

Acts Of Apostles 10
11 And he saw the heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending, as it were a great linen sheet let down by the four corners from heaven to the earth: 12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts, and creeping things of the earth, and fowls of the air. 13 And there came a voice to him: Arise, Peter; kill and eat. 14 But Peter said: Far be it from me; for I never did eat any thing that is common and unclean. 15 And the voice spoke to him again the second time: That which God hath cleansed, do not thou call common…
35 But in every nation, he that feareth him, and worketh justice, is acceptable to him.

Sincerely,

De Maria

 

[FaithofAbraham]

Fourth, St. Paul taught that as the law had been fulfilled, there was no more need for Christians to follow it. THe moral laws, the ten commandments, are still in effect, but the food laws, the sacraficial laws, and the need for circumcision are no longer in place

I think a careful reading shows he was only referring to new Gentile converts, not to existing Jews who already accepted the responsibility of Torah and were obligated to carry it out.

That is if they want to keep calling themselves Jews, if not they can eat pork and be Gentiles.

 

[FaithofAbraham]

To expand Jesus released Jews from the death penalty if they repent, as shown by the stoning of the adulteress.

But if as a lifestyle Jews want to live like Gentiles without repenting of pork and such then they are Gentiles no matter what they call themselves.

If Jews want to live like Gentiles but still say they are Jews then Paul taught they are still bound to the Law and under the death penalty for breaking it, maybe not in this life but in the next.

 

[ralphinal]

I think a careful reading shows he was only referring to new Gentile converts, not to existing Jews who already accepted the responsibility of Torah and were obligated to carry it out.

That is if they want to keep calling themselves Jews, if not they can eat pork and be Gentiles.

That is correct. The vast majority of Christians today are denscended from Gentile converts, not Jewish Christians, so by that statement, the food laws do not apply.

It should be pointed out that the Christian Sect did not leave the Jewish faith: we were kicked out. At that time, we were no longer a part of the Jewish religion and were out on our own. This happened after the Epistles were written, and according to some scholars, after the Bible was finished.

 

[MelanieAnne]

There’s a far more practical reason for pork to have been forbidden. (I believe what is forbidden in the consumption of the meat of an animal that has a “cloven hoof” ~ which would also exclude horses?) Thousands of years ago, there was no remedy for some of the diseases carried by pigs, nor were they aware about the food preparation requirements to curtail the risk. It was more practical to eliminate pork from the menu.

Today, we have the benefit of scientific advancement and do not have the same concerns. In fact, I read once, and it was quite a while ago, that scientists had developed a pig that did not have a “cloven hoof”. I doubt that such an achievement would render the pig “kosher” tho’

 

[FaithofAbraham]

There’s a far more practical reason for pork to have been forbidden. (I believe what is forbidden in the consumption of the meat of an animal that has a “cloven hoof” ~ which would also exclude horses?) Thousands of years ago, there was no remedy for some of the diseases carried by pigs, nor were they aware about the food preparation requirements to curtail the risk. It was more practical to eliminate pork from the menu.

Today, we have the benefit of scientific advancement and do not have the same concerns. In fact, I read once, and it was quite a while ago, that scientists had developed a pig that did not have a “cloven hoof”. I doubt that such an achievement would render the pig “kosher” tho’

Cows also carry diseases and you can get sick if beef isn’t cooked properly too. There was no practical reason for not wearing wool and cotton together but if you say you are a Jew then you need to try to follow that Law.

 

[mangy_dog]

Hi

I would like to submit with humbleness that if this is the only argument of proving greatness of Jesus on Muhammad with the Catholics, then as I understand it never happened.

The **Catholic understanding **of the Sign of Jonah did not get fullfilled; it is the Muslim understanding that got fullfilled.

Thanks

During the period of circa 666 a.d. - the emergence of Islam
During the period of circa 1332 a.d. - the rise of various philosophies exalting reason over faith, the age of reason.
During the period of circa 1998 a.d. - the rise of Marxist atheism.

Three significant periods in which Antichrist has reared its ugly head.

 

[paarsurrey]

Why Is Muhammad The Greatest?

Hi

As I understand all ProphetsMessengers of GodAllahYHWH , like Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad ( and of course the PromisedMessiah 1838-1908) are one in GodAllahYHWH that they brought the same sort of messages from GodAllahYHWH, their origin or source being ONE(GodAllahYHWH), so in this sense they all are borthers.

We Muslims are not obsessed with making Muhammad greater than any one of them; and of course GodAllahYHWH is the greatest, and a man whatever his status must not be arrogant and it suits a man if he is humble.

Quran has discused this very clearly:

[2:253] These are the Signs of Allah. We recite them unto thee with truth. Surely, thou art of the Messengers.**
[2:254] These messengers have We exalted some of them above others; among them there are those to whom Allah spoke; and some of them He exalted in degrees of rank.** And We gave Jesus, son of Mary, clear proofs and strengthened him with the spirit of holiness. And if Allah had so willed, those that came after them would not have fought with one another after clear Signs had come to them; but they did disagree. Of them were some who believed, and of them were some who disbelieved. And if Allah had so willed, they would not have fought with one another; but Allah does what He desires.
[2:255] O ye who believe! Spend out of what We have bestowed on you before the day comes wherein there shall be no buying and selling, nor friendship, nor intercession, and it is those who disbelieve that do wrong to themselves.
[2:256] Allah - there is no god save Him, the Living, the Self-Subsisting and All-Sustaining. Slumber seizes Him not, nor sleep. To Him belongs whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Who is he that dare intercede with Him save by His permission? He knows what is before them and what is behind them; and they encompass nothing of His knowledge except what He pleases. His knowledge extends over the heavens and the earth; and the care of them wearies Him not; and He is the High, the Great.
[2:257] There is no compulsion in religion. Surely, the right way has become distinct from error; so whosoever refuses to be led by those who transgress, and believes in Allah, has surely grasped a strong handle which knows no breaking. And Allah is All-Hearing. All-Knowing.
www3.alislam.org/showChapter.jsp?submitCh=Read+from+verse%3A&ch=2&verse=252

[2:285] To Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth; and whether you disclose what is in your minds or keep it hidden, Allah will call you to account for it, then will He forgive whomsoever He pleases, and punish whomsoever He pleases; and Allah has the power to do all that He wills.
[2:286] This Messenger of Ours believes in that which has been revealed to him from his Lord, and so do the believers; all of them believe in Allah, and in His angels, and in His Books, and in His Messengers, saying, ‘We make no distinction between any of His Messengers;’ and they say, ‘We have heard and we are obedient. Our Lord, we implore Thy forgiveness, and to Thee is the returning.’
www3.alislam.org/showChapter.jsp?submitCh=Read+from+verse%3A&ch=2&verse=283

I think it is all clear and needs no further explanation.

Thanks

 

[FaithofAbraham]

During the period of circa 666 a.d. - the emergence of Islam
During the period of circa 1332 a.d. - the rise of various philosophies exalting reason over faith, the age of reason.
During the period of circa 1998 a.d. - the rise of Marxist atheism.

Three significant periods in which Antichrist has reared its ugly head.

No 666 was when Barking Abbey was founded. Since dogs BARK it relates to this:

Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

 

[Tig]

Rapida,

Tippy-toeing in here. There is much here in this thread for me to go over, learn etc . But just to let you know that I am impressed with your posts. I pray that you and your husband continue to love one another. Seems to me that you two are doing well. God bless you both.

(Now all - back to reading and re-reading and going to links etc. I have much to read and learn. Great thread…)

 

[inJESUS]

I think a careful reading shows he was only referring to new Gentile converts, not to existing Jews who already accepted the responsibility of Torah and were obligated to carry it out.

That is if they want to keep calling themselves Jews, if not they can eat pork and be Gentiles.

correct.

If gentiles are not bound by the Mosaic Law , why did Muhammad, a gentile, say otherwise and prohibited, for example, the pork meat, yet did not prohibit camel meat, which is also prohibited under the Mosaic Law? in the NT there is a theme : Jews (before Messiah), all nations, after Messiah. What is the theme in Islam behind picking and choosing from the Law?

 

[FaithofAbraham]

correct.

If gentiles are not bound by the Mosaic Law , why did Muhammad, a gentile, say otherwise and prohibited, for example, the pork meat, yet did not prohibit camel meat, which is also prohibited under the Mosaic Law? in the NT there is a theme : Jews (before Messiah), all nations, after Messiah. What is the theme in Islam behind picking and choosing from the Law?

The Quran almost exactly mirrors Acts for Gentiles, no blood, meat sacrificed to idols, dead animals you find. Maybe pork is in the Quran and not in Acts if swine were commonly sacrificed to idols, as with Antiochus. Or maybe pork is supposed to be in Acts too and it was left out, if it was just a given that swine were an animal used by heathen sacrifice to idols.

Gentile converts are only given the relaxed laws in Acts, Jews were never excused from all of Torah.

 

[Isa216]

I saw a programme on Tv which said Human meat and Pig meat is similar and that a pig heart can be transplanted into a human…

Maybe there is some connection on why the ewish and Muslim God bans Pork