Why Is Muhammad The Greatest?

[Charlie_Zeaiter]

… I think you agree with me.

Thanks

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[Reuben_J]

Hi

Accoding to the concept of Catholics, Jesus’ Second Coming has not taken place; and they don’t know any hour, day, date, year as to when he would come.
Yes, beautiful, right on the dot!
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Maybe he never comes as he did not die on Cross …

Right from the mouth of the Evil One.

Jesus defeated spiritual death by his death on the cross. Thus Jesus death was a victory and defeat for the Evil One.

The only action that the Evil One can mount against this defeat is to spread the lie that Jesus did not die, so that his victims believing in what he got to say do not believe in Jesus and so, not saved.

… and died naturally later in Kashmir India, so in my opinion he is never to come, one may wait for him till eternity like the Jews are wailing and waiting for their Moshiach. A concept never to be fullfilled.

Jesus words say “… Do not believe anyone who says, ‘He is here, He is there.’ For when He comes, it will not be in a secret but will be seen and known by everybody from the East to the West.” Pharaphrasing Mt 24.

I take Jesus’ words anytime rather than to listen to someone whose moral standing was questionable.

If you do not believe in His coming then you’ll be like those unbelievers before the flood during Noah’s time, eating and merrymaking. And when the flood come you will be swept away and drown.

So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. Mt24:44

Muhammad also prophesized for Coming of Jesus, as one of his follower or KhalifaSuccessor, that prophecy has been fullfilled in the PromisedMessiah 1838-1908, that proves the title of this thread.

Mt 24:23-25 … if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time.

The only time I agree that Mohammad was prophesied in the Bible is here in this verse.

I think you agree with me.

 

[MelanieAnne]

I take Jesus’ words anytime rather than to listen to someone whose moral standing was questionable.

Jesus told us that himself:

Mathew Chapter 7
15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but underneath are ravenous wolves.
16 By their fruits you will know them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
17 Just so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear good fruit.
19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.
20 So by their fruits you will know them.

Anyone who compares the life of Jesus to that of Muhammad can easily discern which is the “good tree” and which is not. Jesus was without sin. By contrast Muhammad lived a life full of controversy and riddled with severe sin.

The only time I agree that Mohammad was prophesied in the Bible is here in this verse.

Save room for this one Reuben!

Galatians Chapter 1

8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach (to you) a gospel other than the one that we preached to you, let that one be accursed!
9 As we have said before, and now I say again, if anyone preaches to you a gospel other than the one that you received, let that one be accursed!

We have been warned not to follow the teachings of someone claiming to be an angel, or claiming to have received those teachings from an angel, which is just what Muhammad claimed.

 

[FaithofAbraham]

Jesus told us that himself:

Anyone who compares the life of Jesus to that of Muhammad can easily discern which is the “good tree” and which is not. Jesus was without sin. By contrast Muhammad lived a life full of controversy and riddled with severe sin.

Moses had the job of cementing God’s Word into a certain region, so did Mohammed, and both involved some brutality.

There is no proof Mohamed had sex with children, raped women of the enemy, or other things said of him. But I for one don’t claim he was sinless either, he was a human like Moses.

Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

 

[Reuben_J]

Jesus told us that himself:

Anyone who compares the life of Jesus to that of Muhammad can easily discern which is the “good tree” and which is not. Jesus was without sin. By contrast Muhammad lived a life full of controversy and riddled with severe sin.

Save room for this one Reuben!

We have been warned not to follow the teachings of someone claiming to be an angel, or claiming to have received those teachings from an angel, which is just what Muhammad claimed.

Thanks MAnne. God bless you.

 

[Reuben_J]

There is no proof Mohamed had sex with children, raped women of the enemy, or other things said of him. But I for one don’t claim he was sinless either, he was a human like Moses.

A regression then. You’d be much better off if you just stop at Jesus.

 

[planten]

Moses had the job of cementing God’s Word into a certain region, so did Mohammed, and both involved some brutality.

There is no proof Mohamed had sex with children, raped women of the enemy, or other things said of him. But I for one don’t claim he was sinless either, he was a human like Moses.

Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

That was news about what the seniors of these christians had been doing. To me the Jews and christions are friends in glove. It is an eye opener and the christians should discuss more on that side of the OT bible. How cruel !! Muhammad and muslims never did anything like that.

 

[FaithofAbraham]

A regression then. You’d be much better off if you just stop at Jesus.

Ishmael had to start from scratch as Isaac did.

 

[Booklover]

Moses had the job of cementing God’s Word into a certain region, so did Mohammed, and both involved some brutality.

There is no proof Mohamed had sex with children, raped women of the enemy, or other things said of him. But I for one don’t claim he was sinless either, he was a human like Moses.

You can’t be serious! There’s plenty of proof for crimes committed by Muhammad or by his instigation!

Muhammad without camouflage: Ecce Homo - Arabicus
Muhammad and his personal enemies
Muhammad’s excessive cruelty
His marriage with a 9 year old

As one ex-Muslim puts it:

It is an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion, invented by Muhammad for his own personal gains. With a promise of a carnal and orgiastic paradise (just for men) and threat of hell he goaded his foolhardy followers to raid and slay innocent people under the pretext that they were infidels. He and his merry band of terrorists looted their villages and cities, raped the women, and enslaved all who were not killed outright. To this day, Muslim terrorists are following the footsteps of their prophet who bragged, “I have been made victorious with terror” *[Bukhari [/COLOR]4.52.220]. No other cause is responsible for more deaths than Islam.

Vickie

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[Booklover]

That was news about what the seniors of these christians had been doing. To me the Jews and christions are friends in glove. It is an eye opener and the christians should discuss more on that side of the OT bible. How cruel !! Muhammad and muslims never did anything like that.

The hypocrisy of Muslims is amazing! How about these “honor killings” that are happening now??

Vickie

 

[Mr.Bee]

No, it is not about power, it is about wholeheartedly accepting and subsequently living completely by the Truth… and the Truth comes only from the Creator.

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers. … (Aal ‘Imraan 3:85)

After the Jews and the Christians come to know about the perfected guidance in the Qur’an (after knowledge had come to them), if they persist in their error, Allah will then call them to account. So the meaning is obvious: Jews and Christians, who whole-heartedly submit to Allah, have nothing to fear. And when they know that - as predicted by their own Books - the last prophet has come with the perfected form of Islam, their duty is to follow him. If they are sincere in their obedience to God, they would simply do so.

Upon entering the fold of Islam purely for the Pleasure of God, all of one’s previous sins are forgiven, and one starts a new life of piety and righteousness. The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said to a person who had placed the condition upon the Prophet in accepting Islam that God would forgive his sins:.

No. For Islam it is about power. Otherwise you wouldn’t be here trying to convince me otherwise.

Let me ask all the Muslims: Is it acceptable for you to exist and worship your faith within the confines of a non-Muslim political system? (assuming this system doesn’t deny you your right to worship, like in the U.S.)

It just seems that Islam and politics are not mutually exclusive. And that amounts to power.

 

[FaithofAbraham]

You can’t be serious! There’s plenty of proof for crimes committed by Muhammad or by his instigation!

Muhammad without camouflage: Ecce Homo - Arabicus
Muhammad and his personal enemies
Muhammad’s excessive cruelty
His marriage with a 9 year old

As one ex-Muslim puts it:

It is an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion, invented by Muhammad for his own personal gains. With a promise of a carnal and orgiastic paradise (just for men) and threat of hell he goaded his foolhardy followers to raid and slay innocent people under the pretext that they were infidels. He and his merry band of terrorists looted their villages and cities, raped the women, and enslaved all who were not killed outright. To this day, Muslim terrorists are following the footsteps of their prophet who bragged, “I have been made victorious with terror” [Bukhari [/COLOR]4.52.220]. No other cause is responsible for more deaths than Islam.

Vickie

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Not all Muslims accept Hadith, like me. Virgins in Heaven is just a metaphor, like the Lamb’s Bride marrying Jesus. Revelation does not mean the Lamb’s Bride will have sex with Jesus on the wedding night does it?

 

[Booklover]

Not all Muslims accept Hadith, like me. Virgins in Heaven is just a metaphor, like the Lamb’s Bride marrying Jesus. Revelation does not mean the Lamb’s Bride will have sex with Jesus on the wedding night does it?

What kind of answer is that??

Vickie

 

[FaithofAbraham]

What kind of answer is that??

Vickie

I’m saying Hadith which links lead to are no proof for me, they are fables like Apocrypha, where Jesus gets angry as a child and kills a playmate, are to Christians.

 

[hamba2han]

No. For Islam it is about power. Otherwise you wouldn’t be here trying to convince me otherwise.

At the time of Prophet Moses (pbuh), Pharaoh was the most powerful man in the world.

In the end, what good did all that power do for him?

Power is no doubt a nice tool to have but if you think that it is the main goal for Muslims, then you really do not know much about Islam.

 

[Mr.Bee]

At the time of Prophet Moses (pbuh), Pharaoh was the most powerful man in the world.

In the end, what good did all that power do for him?

Power is no doubt a nice tool to have but if you think that it is the main goal for Muslims, then you really do not know much about Islam.

Current events suggest otherwise.

Muslims don’t want anyone telling them what to do, just as Christians, or anyone else for that matter, don’t want to be ruled by someone else. Everyone might ***say ***that we can live together harmoniously, but in reality that requires someone to relinquish power. Are you willing to do that?

BTW Hamba: At your suggestion I’ve attempted to read the Qur’an. Yikes! It makes the Bible seem like Dr. Seuss.

 

[Charlie_Zeaiter]

… But I for one don’t claim he [Muhammad]was sinless either, he was a human like Moses…

Nobody is suggesting that Jesus is greater than Moses. Why have you changed the subject by bring Moses into the picture?

Anyway, since you have mentioned Moses, I’d like you to research the parallels between Passover and the Crucifixion. I find it fascinating, and I hope you do too.

 

[inJESUS]

I’m saying Hadith which links lead to are no proof for me, they are fables like Apocrypha, where Jesus gets angry as a child and kills a playmate, are to Christians.

or when He speaks in the craddle (Quran), or when he created birds from clay (Quran). Are these fables too?because they are taken from the same apocrypha you consider fables…

 

[FaithofAbraham]

Nobody is suggesting that Jesus is greater than Moses. Why have you changed the subject by bring Moses into the picture?

Anyway, since you have mentioned Moses, I’d like you to research the parallels between Passover and the Crucifixion. I find it fascinating, and I hope you do too.

I’m not trying to change the subject, just saying that I don’t pretend Mohammed was a perfect sinless human. I could mention David too who killed Uriah to take his wife. But God still loved him.

 

[FaithofAbraham]

or when He speaks in the craddle (Quran), or when he created birds from clay (Quran). Are these fables too?because they are taken from the same apocrypha you consider fables…

I think some Apocrypha not in the Bible might have truths. Jude seems to speak of Enoch, for one. But most Christians don’t accept them as gospel, I don’t think.