Why Is Muhammad The Greatest?

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First, you gotta get me holy. Then, you gotta get me dead. Then, you put me up for cannonazation. If you got me holy enough, no problem.
I’ll work on it! Now you just have to do your part. I hope you’re old tho’, so that I can pray for your beatification after you’re gone. I’m old, you need to be older 😃
 
God is still God. The Bible says Jesus, took a human flesh.

Using your response, then Jesus in flesh IS God, not a lesser god, nor a mere human…His second nature does not mean He is no more God…it simply means He had both. How, is His own business.
Well it’s my business too if I’m going to bother worshiping a God at all. I like to know what I’m trusting my life and eternity to.
do you know how God is omnipresent? how does He manage it exactly? if not, and you still believe in Him, why do you then want to understand how He managed other things related to His power?
And I see that Jesus worshiped God like any man,
how? i worship God by acknowleging my sins and need of forgivess, did Jesus? i acknowledge God the Creator of everthing in comparison to myself, the creature, did Jesus? i beg God to give me other chances to be with Him, did Jesus? in what way did He worship God like any man? does worshipping God only means talking to Him or is it about your position as a sinful creature as opposed to the position of your Creator?
so while I’m to obey Jesus as if he is God,
" as if" does not means Jesus is the eternal and uncreated Word of God, the Alpha and Omega, the I AM, the Resurrection and Life, the Creator . To believe what the NT says is to believe He is God.
I am also to have no other gods but God,
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I’ll work on it! Now you just have to do your part. I hope you’re old tho’, so that I can pray for your beatification after you’re gone. I’m old, you need to be older 😃
I am only 35, but I feel much older.šŸ‘
 
Jesus was the founder of the Church, not Peter! Jesus made Peter the head of this church and his vicar on earth. When the Holy Spirit descended on the Apostles at Pentecost they were filled with grace and given the power to accomplish their mission of establishing the church and making disciples of all the nations.
Ok, head of the Church then. Either way Peter, Paul, and others weren’t exactly always saints.
JMuslims are the ones that claim that Muhammad was a ā€œmercy to all mankindā€ and the ā€œbest of creationā€. How do you know that that ā€œgossipā€ as you call it was not true.
How do you know Jesus isn’t boiling in excrement in hell like some Jews believe the Talmud says? Every prophet has his slanderers.
Why do you say ā€œChristiansā€ as if it was their Christianity that made them do these things? Instead of saying that there was an Arabic invasion of the Byzantine world, a Turkish invasion of Eastern Europe and a Moorish invasion of Spain, we should say it was Muslims that invaded the Byzantine world, it was Muslims that invaded Eastern Europe and it was Muslims that invaded Spain.
Manifest Destiny of oppressing Native Americans was based squarely on the idea that God wanted Christians to create the New Israel in America, and that the Native Americans were the new Canaanites. So Christians have twisted the Bible and used the name of God to justify all kinds of filth, they have been no better than Muslims.
Islam put over a million Europeans into slavery and it was Muslims who rounded up the blacks to sell them to the white slave traders. White women were the most prized slaves in Mecca. It was not ā€œChristianityā€ that deprived Native Americans of their lands and freedom, it was a more advanced technology that did it.
Sure…on one hand Christians insist this is a Christian nation founded on Christianity, yet when the time comes to accept blame for America’s sins, it swears it wasn’t the Christians. Same with Hitler and the Holocaust. Let’s be honest, it has always been the Christians behind all the sins of the west for a long time now.
About the Bible, the Church was afraid of what has actually happened, everybody interpreting Scriptures their own way.
Or maybe that it would no longer have sole ownership of Jesus to use as a weapon against its enemies.
Yes, we have had priests that molested children and the church is dealing with them.
Yeah, finally.
When has Islam ever treated the unbelievers as equals? Isn’t it true that a Muslim should not lie, cheat, kill or steal from other Muslims, but a Muslim may lie, deceive or kill an unbeliever if it advances Islam?
No more than you can justify modern imitation of what Moses and Joshua did in the Bible to advance the God of Israel through Canaan, killing everyone except for the little girls to keep for themselves and things like that.

What Mohammed did is comparable, to cement belief in God among Arabs to fulfill Ishmael’s promise of a Great Nation like Isaac has through Moses, David, and then Jesus.

Now all that’s over. But not really, Christians and Muslims will still both claim Jesus is Messiah, but still fight until the end, with Jews right in the middle of it. That’s the plan. So like I said I really don’t care about defending anyone. I’m the first to say many Muslims are as blind or even more than the Christians.

So that’s about it on that.
 
why don’t you explain to me first your understanding of worship, and why one worships, in order to be on the same track.
The first thing you do is confess you have a God that can be worshiped, like here.

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

And then you pray to Him, like here:

Hebrews 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;

As far as I can see, Jesus has and always had a God he worshiped.
 
FofA,

Do you truly want an answer to your questions? Or do you just ask so that you can receive an answer to attack? It seems to me that the real answer is the latter.

Many people have done yeoman’s work here trying to explain things to you, but it seems you always have a comeback to whatever they say. With every question you ask, it seems like like you are setting a trap, not trying to learn.

Some people, because they are more patient than others, continue the dialog. Others have given up. It’s just possible that those that have given up have tired of the game that they have come to believe you are playing. If people think you are playing a game, it’s just possible that they could be wrong. But they could also be right.
Maybe he’s just speaking with a forked tongue!😃

Vickie
 
FofA,

Do you truly want an answer to your questions? Or do you just ask so that you can receive an answer to attack? It seems to me that the real answer is the latter.

Many people have done yeoman’s work here trying to explain things to you, but it seems you always have a comeback to whatever they say. With every question you ask, it seems like like you are setting a trap, not trying to learn.

Some people, because they are more patient than others, continue the dialog. Others have given up. It’s just possible that those that have given up have tired of the game that they have come to believe you are playing. If people think you are playing a game, it’s just possible that they could be wrong. But they could also be right.
Right here, we are hashing out the difference between beliefs, isn’t that why this forum is here, to compare and contrast?

In other areas I agree like with purgatory, confession, etc. This just isn’t one of them. Should we just forget it? I’m not forcing anyone to reply to me you know.
 
Right here, we are hashing out the difference between beliefs, isn’t that why this forum is here, to compare and contrast?

In other areas I agree like with purgatory, confession, etc. This just isn’t one of them. Should we just forget it? I’m not forcing anyone to reply to me you know.
In FoA’s defense, unless provoked he is rarely rude on here. At times, he can be obstinate, but who isn’t.

For the record, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, FoA is a Muslim who, starting from a basis that the Koran is correct, is trying to reconcile Christianity with Islam. It seems like he feels that the ā€œparty lineā€ that Islam is here to correct errors in Christianity is correct. Many of his ideas are problematic to some Muslims. Many are problematic for Christians, but they are his. In America, he is more than welcome to hold these ideas. THere are many times that I have thought he was full of it, and I am sure the feeling is mutual, but it does not mean that we cannot dialog.

I am not trying to convert him. God converts. All I can do is raise questions.
 
Manifest Destiny of oppressing Native Americans was based squarely on the idea that God wanted Christians to create the New Israel in America, and that the Native Americans were the new Canaanites. So Christians have twisted the Bible and used the name of God to justify all kinds of filth, they have been no better than Muslims.
Huh??:confused: Where do you get this? I’ve never heard of such a thing. By the way, FOA what tribe are you from?

Vickie
 
I am only 35, but I feel much older.šŸ‘
OH WELL.

Since you’re just a bit older than my first child, I’m fairly sure I’ll never be able to pray for your beatification. But you sure have earned some serious ā€œsaintā€ points in this thread!!
 
The first thing you do is confess you have a God that can be worshiped, like here.

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

And then you pray to Him, like here:

Hebrews 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;

As far as I can see, Jesus has and always had a God he worshiped.
ok we see Jesus acknowledging the Father, and talked/cried to Him ; likewise the Father acknowledge Jesus and talked to Him. There is no use repeating the same argument. No one says Jesus does not mention the Father nor talk to Him, and no one says the Father does not do the same.

Is worship only based on acknowledging and talking to the Father? because Satan did both. Or does it have different elements, example acknowleding your position of creature you have with respect to the Creator? your position of sin with respect to the Holy One? your position of a human in need of forgiveness with respect to the Judge?
 
OH WELL.

Since your just a bit older than my first child, I’m fairly sure I’ll never be able to pray for your beatification. But you sure have earned some serious ā€œsaintā€ points in this thread!!
Then just pray that I get holy, and some one else can do the rest:thumbsup:
 
In FoA’s defense, unless provoked he is rarely rude on here. At times, he can be obstinate, but who isn’t.

For the record, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, FoA is a Muslim who, starting from a basis that the Koran is correct, is trying to reconcile Christianity with Islam. It seems like he feels that the ā€œparty lineā€ that Islam is here to correct errors in Christianity is correct. Many of his ideas are problematic to some Muslims. Many are problematic for Christians, but they are his. In America, he is more than welcome to hold these ideas. THere are many times that I have thought he was full of it, and I am sure the feeling is mutual, but it does not mean that we cannot dialog.

I am not trying to convert him. God converts. All I can do is raise questions.
 
Then just pray that I get holy, and some one else can do the rest:thumbsup:
I would say InJesus is another candidate for sainthood! I’m afraid I’m not, I’m too much of a spitfire! 😃

Vickie
 
I would say InJesus is another candidate for sainthood! I’m afraid I’m not, I’m too much of a spitfire! 😃

Vickie
Some of the greatest saints were too. If you beleive half of the stories about St. Dominic, he was hell on wheels to the albingensians.
 
Right here, we are hashing out the difference between beliefs, isn’t that why this forum is here, to compare and contrast?

In other areas I agree like with purgatory, confession, etc. This just isn’t one of them. Should we just forget it? I’m not forcing anyone to reply to me you know.
You also didn’t answer the question.
 
ok we see Jesus acknowledging the Father, and talked/cried to Him ; likewise the Father acknowledge Jesus and talked to Him. There is no use repeating the same argument. No one says Jesus does not mention the Father nor talk to Him, and no one says the Father does not do the same.

Is worship only based on acknowledging and talking to the Father? because Satan did both. Or does it have different elements, example acknowleding your position of creature you have with respect to the Creator? your position of sin with respect to the Holy One? your position of a human in need of forgiveness with respect to the Judge?
Matthew 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
 
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