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Zundrah
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Give me a break, I’m not going to stop going up at communion, so just leave it out!
why is the Catholic Church the only one that has a "service" every day?
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Zundrah
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What is a EMCH?
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Bill_Pick
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What does Paul have to say about Church "Paul did say; “We are to worship God every day, not just on Saturday or Sunday”
Do you think this is why we have Mass all the days on the week
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Zundrah
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nlm
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Thank you for your response. I was a bit surprised at the information provided by twopekingguys gave.This must be a new directive in the canon. I know priests in the past were obligated to say mass or concelebrate with others daily. When did that change?
No I do not miss mass at all. However having said this what I do miss at times is the pomp and ceremony associated with special feast days or special celebrations in the RCC.Yes, I can see you have a deep faith in the Eucharist. That is very good. It will indeed keep you going. Thank you for asking about my experience. We are indeed Brothers and Sisters in the same Christ. God Bless. NLM
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What does it coast to go to each thing,are just a few of them lets say 30 PM Financial Peace University“If they read the Bible”…are you kidding me? What you find at Baptist Churches is many coming together to share the Word of God and encourage each other in their daily lives with a lot of prayer!
My brother-in-law’s Baptist Church welcomes visitors…
Here is a little bit of there schedule…
Sunday…
9:00 AM Contemporary Worship
9:00 AM VKC Grades 1-4 Special Music
Vine Kids Choir Performance
10:30 AM Classic Worship
12:00 PM Open Mike
4:00 PM God’s GRACE Abound Mtg
4:30 PM Financial Peace University
5:00 PM American Sign Language - ASL
5:00 PM Connecting with Your Child
5:00 PM Discipleship 101
5:00 PM Sharing Your Faith with Others
5:00 PM Sunday School @ Night
5:00 PM AWANA Fall Schedule
5:00 PM Collegiate Biblical Financial Study
5:00 PM Crown Financial Biblical Study
5:00 PM Crown Financial Class - Led by John Rollins
5:00 PM Grief Share
5:00 PM Setting Boundaries with Adult Children
5:00 PM The Truth Project
6:00 PM Sunday School Leadership Mtg.
6:30 PM Fall Volleyball
Monday…
6:30 AM Men’s Prayer Time
7:00 AM Senior Adult Fall Celebration
9:00 AM Agape Aerobics
9:00 AM MOPS
9:00 AM MOPS Child Care
12:00 PM Men’s Noon Basketball
6:30 PM Fall Volleyball
Tuesday…
6:30 AM Ladies Prayer Time
9:00 AM International Friends
9:30 AM Food Forethought: Proof of What Is To Come
4:00 PM Men’s Ministry Fishfry
6:30 PM Fall Volleyball
7:00 PM For Ladies: Me, Myself and Lies
Mens Softball
Wednesday…
6:30 PM Prayer Service
6:30 PM Rock56 Choir & Discipleship
7:30 PM Heaven, Hell and The Afterlife
7:30 PM Singles Bible Study: The Miracles of Jesus
Thursday…
6:30 AM Men’s Prayer Time
9:00 AM Women’s Ministry Bible Study: From Simon to Peter
Friday… I think that you get the picture…
God Bless!
5:00 PM American Sign Language
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emeraldcoast
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Bill,
I am not sure what the cost is but I will try and find out for you. Speaking of daily Mass and since you have brought up money I have a question for you. What kind of stipend are you expected to give your priest if you ask him to say a Mass for you or a loved one?
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LDNCatholic
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I think here it is about £5, around $7.50 I guess. However the stipend, to the best of my knowledge, is not obligatory.
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jmcrae
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This is absolutely false - first, the priest still has to say Mass every day even if no one has bought a Mass card, and second, one Mass card gets you one Mass. You cannot have more than one Mass card per Mass, so the maximum the priest can get (if he gets his Mass cards for free; my understanding is that the cost of the card itself is usually the same as any typical greeting card, and I recently paid $15.00 for a birthday card) is $10.00. (His secretary makes more per hour than that, I guarantee you.)
A lot depends on the priest, and the temperment of the parish itself. For myself, I tend to be drawn to longer Masses, both on the weekdays and on Sundays - the ones I go to on weekdays are typically 35-40 minutes, and the Sunday Masses I go to usually last a little over an hour.
I’ve seen Catholic priests give retreats where they preached for 90 minutes at a time, and longer.
So are we. Morning Prayer and Evening Prayer (readings from the Psalms, and a few short prayers) is the minimum expectation, and most people add a Rosary to that, as well.
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jmcrae
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A person who is not a priest, Bishop, or deacon, who is distributing Holy Communion at Mass or bringing it to sick people at the hospital.
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nlm
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Not so fast. I am speaking about Canada. Perhaps things are different in RCC’s in other countries Let me say that when I speak of a mass card I am not referring to the actual paper card which usually goes to the family of the deceased to tell them you had a mass said.Those are usually free.What I am saying is when you ask to have a mass said in memory of someone, the cost is $ 10.00. That is a fact.Unless a priest lived in a very small and poor parish, he receives more mass requests than he can actually say. Most times when that happens, dozens and sometimes hundreds are sent to religious orders where mass requests may not be as frequently received. This generates funds for the monastery.Hundreds of mass requests come from the funeral homes when people die. Usually a friend of the family will sit at the funeral home and visitors give the $10.00, receive a receipt and a card is given to the family . YES, a priest can and does say mass for more than one dearly departed at one time. I one parish I attended, he would actually read the names out loud during the mass itself.I questionned this practice once and was told that the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is so great that it can indeed be offered for more than one person at one time.
As for the lenght of the mass,I was giving an example of some of our local churches. They would indeed vary.Yes, I have also attended retreats where sermons lasted quite a long time as they should during retreats.God Bless. NLM
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nlm
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In Canada the amount is $10.00 and it is obligatory.God Bless. NLM
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jmcrae
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I am also in Canada, and yet my experiences are quite different. It probably has to do with the sorts of parishes that we are naturally drawn to, since although I have heard of parishes like the ones you’re describing, they’re not in neighborhoods where I would think of going - I tend to stick to working-class areas of the city.
IF he is doing this, he is doing so absolutely against Church law.
He is still breaking Church law.
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lynnareyno
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It’s EMHC= Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion…not a priest, but a lay person. The priest is the Ordinary Minister of Holy Communion. A lay person is the extra ordinary minister because they are only suppose to be used in extraordinary…i.e. emergency circumstances…however, it has become a normal practice at every mass in many parishes.
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What do you mean parishes we are naturally drawn to ? I live in a middle to upper class neighborhood.Are you not expected to attend the church in your neighborhood? Why would the rules of the church change from church to church? I don’t understand. He may be breaking laws but it is THE truth. God Bless. NLMI am also in Canada, and yet my experiences are quite different. It probably has to do with the sorts of parishes that we are naturally drawn to, since although I have heard of parishes like the ones you’re describing, they’re not in neighborhoods where I would think of going - I tend to stick to working-class areas of the city.
IF he is doing this, he is doing so absolutely against Church law.
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nlm
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So if you know the “trick” you can get out of paying to have a mass said? Where is the sacrifice element on your part ? What do you give up in this transaction? It would be exactly the same as lighting a votive candle and putting no money in the box to pay for it. Again the sacrifice element. NLM
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ccolley2
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Point well taken,
I submit to the Teaching authority of the Church and await further clarification from the Congregation on this.
This is why I am NOT the Pope.
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Hesychios
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This concept contributed to the “Chantry Priests” problem of days gone by.
There were (generally before the Protestant Reformation) many chapels set up without congregations, staffed by priests who said private Masses. Unfortunately, many of these men were not really good priests, could not have preached a sermon if they had to, and often used Latin so bad it was unintelligible. In fact they were often illiterate, or nearly so. They were not ‘pastors’ in any sense, but they were ordained priests, and something of a scandal.
This practice gave the rich an unfair advantage in that they could sponsor a place like that and have Masses said for themselves “in perpetuity”, or until the money ran out. They were sacramental vending machines, but since there were ordinarily no living congregations to receive the Holy Eucharist the concept was something of a magic act. Expecting, or even hoping such a scheme would influence the Divine is similar to conjuring. The Mass is foremost a community of believers communing with the Divine.
BTW, there is really only one Mass (or Qurbono/Divine Liturgy/Soorp Badarak), it is universal… a cosmic reality outside of time, which we participate in our own way as creatures in time. So I would say the priest was right, the Mass is always said for many around the world and around the clock. It cannot be limited in scope, so it hardly matters whether he accepts one intention per Mass or many.
I object to the setting of a “price”. The argument that there should be some sacrifice on the part of the petitioner is compelling enough that I will not go to the mat over it, but no sacrament can be sold. A free will donation of any amount should be sufficient (even a penny, or even a “widow’s mite”), and an affordable amount may be suggested (although no freely offered amount is too much, the sacrament is priceless), but the sacrament should never be refused to a person over money. I think Trent may have addressed this, but I just don’t remember.
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jmcrae
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I should think that the amount of volunteer work I do around the church is sufficient to supply any “pay back” element that may be considered necessary; however, my offering consists of a broken heart, and a contrite spirit, cf. Isaiah.
As far as I know, the donations for the votive candles are also voluntary.
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