Why is the church so full on Ash Wednesday, yet so empty on Good Friday?

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I came into the Church Easter Vigil 2007, and am so glad to be here! I have no problem with Holy Days of Obligation (except for calling them an ‘obligation’ rather than a ‘privilege’!). I am also aware that Ash Wednesday is NOT one of them. But, I have seen, without fail, that there are more people at Mass Ash Wednesday than there are for Mary, Mother of God, January 1 or the Immaculate Conception, December 8, and these **are ** Holy Days of Obligation. Good Friday is not a Holy Day of Obligation, though I have yet to understand why, but, I can’t imagine not going to church Good Friday. Even as a Protestant, I honestly never missed going to church somewhere Good Friday. It is a priority for me. Yet, the Catholic churches I have been in are embarrassingly empty. How can Catholics place more importance on Ash Wednesday than on Good Friday??? The crucifix is so important to Catholics, why not Good Friday? I really can make no sense of this. If you can, I would appreciate the enlightenment! Thank you.
 
It’s kind of embarrassment that some Catholics only show up on Ash Wednesday and Palm Sunday. Or just on Christmas.

ON THE OTHER HAND, one priest very effectively preached that all of have an obligation to take advantage of those few times to evangelize to those Catholics. To encourage them to participate more often.

Keep in mind one of Jesus’s sermons in which he described how the faith of some people was like seed that landed on the path and was worn down, or in thistles and sticker bushes and etc. But some landed on fertile ground.

And then there was the shepherd who plunged into the dangerous ground to retrieve one lamb that got lost.

Think about that.

Faith is a gift from God.

But sometimes we can work to nurture the faith in some and maybe bring it back to life.
 
I came into the Church Easter Vigil 2007, and am so glad to be here! I have no problem with Holy Days of Obligation (except for calling them an ‘obligation’ rather than a ‘privilege’!). I am also aware that Ash Wednesday is NOT one of them. But, I have seen, without fail, that there are more people at Mass Ash Wednesday than there are for Mary, Mother of God, January 1 or the Immaculate Conception, December 8, and these **are ** Holy Days of Obligation. Good Friday is not a Holy Day of Obligation, though I have yet to understand why, but, I can’t imagine not going to church Good Friday. Even as a Protestant, I honestly never missed going to church somewhere Good Friday. It is a priority for me. Yet, the Catholic churches I have been in are embarrassingly empty. How can Catholics place more importance on Ash Wednesday than on Good Friday??? The crucifix is so important to Catholics, why not Good Friday? I really can make no sense of this. If you can, I would appreciate the enlightenment! Thank you.
Good question! I’m happy to report that our parish is quite full on Holy Thursday and Good Friday (also Ash Wednesday and Holy Days). Sadly, it wasn’t quite so full for the Easter Vigil. Personally, I like to consider the whole Triduum as a Holy Day of Obligation. In fact (aside from the canon law obligation), I’d much rather miss an HDO other than Christmas than miss any part of the Triduum of Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Easter Vigil, and Easter Sunday. Ash Wednesday is high priority too though.
 
Actually i’ve found that the Good Friday service is always packed where i live. (as is Ash Wednesday)

I agree that most holy days are sparsely populated 😦 with the exception of Easter and Christmas.
 
I came into the Church Easter Vigil 2007, and am so glad to be here! I have no problem with Holy Days of Obligation (except for calling them an ‘obligation’ rather than a ‘privilege’!). I am also aware that Ash Wednesday is NOT one of them. But, I have seen, without fail, that there are more people at Mass Ash Wednesday than there are for Mary, Mother of God, January 1 or the Immaculate Conception, December 8, and these **are ** Holy Days of Obligation. Good Friday is not a Holy Day of Obligation, though I have yet to understand why, but, I can’t imagine not going to church Good Friday. Even as a Protestant, I honestly never missed going to church somewhere Good Friday. It is a priority for me. Yet, the Catholic churches I have been in are embarrassingly empty. How can Catholics place more importance on Ash Wednesday than on Good Friday??? The crucifix is so important to Catholics, why not Good Friday? I really can make no sense of this. If you can, I would appreciate the enlightenment! Thank you.
In some areas (I live in the West) unfortunately Easter weekend is considered the first weekend of outdoor recreation, so many go camping, 4 wheeling, etc., but there are a minority of Catholics in our state (Utah). I belong to an English/Mexican parish and it is further confusing because some of our Holy Week services are bi-lingual, thus much more crowded and confusing.

However, I think before Vatican 11 the Churches were encouraged to leave the church open all day on Good Friday so people could “pay their respects to the Passion”. Now, the services are at “fixed times” and many working people have a difficult time attending them.

I especially like the Holy Saturday Easter Vigil Service, but many seniors stay away because of the late “starting” time and the long service. Ours is bi-lingual and I only went once because the service ended at 11:30 p.m. with a packed standing only Church.

Perhaps someday the Church will be able to conceive of some earlier service other than this. Many areas of the country have bad weather that time of the year in addition to beginning after dark.

Our Good Friday service has an afternoon as well as an evening one. We also have outdoor Stations of the Cross around the neighborhood, and I believe there are several “ecumenical” Stations of the Cross held elsewhere in the City.

Yes, more people should participate. Before Vatican 11 when I was growing up, the Churches were filled with parishioners during these Holy Days.

Perhaps the priests and Bishops should be reminding people of these other Holy Days.
 
I came into the Church Easter Vigil 2007, and am so glad to be here! I have no problem with Holy Days of Obligation (except for calling them an ‘obligation’ rather than a ‘privilege’!). I am also aware that Ash Wednesday is NOT one of them. But, I have seen, without fail, that there are more people at Mass Ash Wednesday than there are for Mary, Mother of God, January 1 or the Immaculate Conception, December 8, and these **are ** Holy Days of Obligation. Good Friday is not a Holy Day of Obligation, though I have yet to understand why, but, I can’t imagine not going to church Good Friday. Even as a Protestant, I honestly never missed going to church somewhere Good Friday. It is a priority for me. Yet, the Catholic churches I have been in are embarrassingly empty. How can Catholics place more importance on Ash Wednesday than on Good Friday??? The crucifix is so important to Catholics, why not Good Friday? I really can make no sense of this. If you can, I would appreciate the enlightenment! Thank you.
I would say probably due to the sin of pride. Many might go on that day thinking they are receiving their halo for all to see. These are the same people who probably receive the Eucharist as well when they ought not to.
 
It may be b/c Ash Wed services are held at multiple times including before and after usual work times (at least in my parish) and Good Friday services are only at 3pm when it is difficult for many b/c of work schedules.

Having said that, I always do my best to be off work on Good Friday but can’t always make Ash Wed services (although I do my best there too!)
 
I would say probably due to the sin of pride. Many might go on that day thinking they are receiving their halo for all to see. These are the same people who probably receive the Eucharist as well when they ought not to.
I guess this occurred to me, too, but I wasn’t sure how to put it. It seems that if people know someone is Catholic, they expect to see ashes on their forehead on Ash Wednesday. I find it curious, then, that the Gospel reading from Matthew 6 cautions against that very thing.
 
Several of you have referred to Ash Wednesday, and the Triduum as Holy Days. It just seems to me that ‘of Obligation’ shouldn’t be necessary to make Catholics understand the sacredness and significance of these days in the liturgical year. The Last Supper? No Easter without Good Friday? just seems so obvious.
 
Several of you have referred to Ash Wednesday, and the Triduum as Holy Days. It just seems to me that ‘of Obligation’ shouldn’t be necessary to make Catholics understand the sacredness and significance of these days in the liturgical year. The Last Supper? No Easter without Good Friday? just seems so obvious.
It’s obvious to people who take their faith seriously - the kind of folks one finds on a Catholic internet forum. Sadly, there are huge numbers of people, barely catechized, who simply don’t give a hoot. They’re aware of Easter because there are baskets and bunnies and spring clothes on sale in the stores.

Betsy
 
Growing up we used to get a lot of folks on Ash Wednesday and Palm Sunday. We referred to them as “A&P Catholics” (fyi A&P is a grocery store chain) because they only came to Church when we were giving something away - Ashes and Palm.

I can think of two reasons you see more people on Ash Wednesday. First, many people who have been away from the Church may be “starting over” and have decided to use Lent as that point (maybe they are the folks who only come at Easter as well?) but then drop put by Easter.

Second, since ashes can be distributed to non-Catholics as well, perhaps we are seeing our brothers and sisters from other Christian faiths?
 
Seriously, I think people want to worship and be part of Church.

Ash Wednesday gives them an opportunity. They try. Having ashes on ones forehead is embarassing. They give it a try.

But then they get dragged back by their lack of home support or competition from other activities.

It can be very difficult. There is peer pressure to hang out or to golf or to party the night before.

I can remember being “embarrassed” at having to stop some activity to get to Mass. Everyone is having a good time, and I looked at my watch and said, gotta go to Mass. [Long Story]. Or, “hey how come you don’t do such and such with us”. * I just gave her a wink.

Or maybe, someday, my good example might trigger a thought to try going to daily Mass and skipping having lunch with the same work friends every day.

Easter and Christmas … maybe just a “party” or a “happening”. The music. The flowers. The crowds of people. Very exciting. An event.

I have never heard a priest at his Christmas homily or Easter homily invite people to return the next Sunday. [They will sometimes welcome visitors and/or mention the need for “proper disposition” for reception of Holy Communion.] Or inviting people to RCIA or religious instruction. Maybe they should have a second round of religious education courses AFTER Easter Sunday so that people who only show up on Easter Sunday will have something to be invited to.

Never heard a priest in his Christmas or Easter homily address it to educating the once a year Catholics.

I remember once, after a very crowded Mass, finding a consecrated Host in a pew.

It’s very terrible to me, when one of my non-Catholic or non-practicing Catholics, dies. I feel like it’s me who is plunged into Hell. When my friends (or even strangers) skip Mass, I feel their pain.

Sorry to go on like this.

Spend your days in prayer. As you go about your daily business. There is a lot to pray for and to pray about.*
 
I have never heard a priest at his Christmas homily or Easter homily invite people to return the next Sunday. [They will sometimes welcome visitors and/or mention the need for “proper disposition” for reception of Holy Communion.]

Never heard a priest in his Christmas or Easter homily address it to educating the once a year Catholics.
We have a priest who takes his responsibility to encourage regular Mass attendance very seriously, including at Easter and Christmas. Naturally, the Easter/Christmas crowd doesn’t always receive that reminder kindly. The Truth can hurt! People who have turned their back on it tend to be offended by it.
 
. Naturally, the Easter/Christmas crowd doesn’t always receive that reminder kindly. The Truth can hurt! People who have turned their back on it tend to be offended by it.
We’ll only assume that all the EC Catholics went to confession before they all received communion on those days.
 
Seriously, I think people want to worship and be part of Church.

Ash Wednesday gives them an opportunity. They try. Having ashes on ones forehead is embarassing. They give it a try.

But then they get dragged back by their lack of home support or competition from other activities.

It can be very difficult. There is peer pressure to hang out or to golf or to party the night before.

I can remember being “embarrassed” at having to stop some activity to get to Mass. Everyone is having a good time, and I looked at my watch and said, gotta go to Mass. [Long Story]. Or, “hey how come you don’t do such and such with us”. * I just gave her a wink.

Or maybe, someday, my good example might trigger a thought to try going to daily Mass and skipping having lunch with the same work friends every day.

Easter and Christmas … maybe just a “party” or a “happening”. The music. The flowers. The crowds of people. Very exciting. An event.

I have never heard a priest at his Christmas homily or Easter homily invite people to return the next Sunday. [They will sometimes welcome visitors and/or mention the need for “proper disposition” for reception of Holy Communion.] Or inviting people to RCIA or religious instruction. Maybe they should have a second round of religious education courses AFTER Easter Sunday so that people who only show up on Easter Sunday will have something to be invited to.

Never heard a priest in his Christmas or Easter homily address it to educating the once a year Catholics.

I remember once, after a very crowded Mass, finding a consecrated Host in a pew.

It’s very terrible to me, when one of my non-Catholic or non-practicing Catholics, dies. I feel like it’s me who is plunged into Hell. When my friends (or even strangers) skip Mass, I feel their pain.

Sorry to go on like this.

Spend your days in prayer. As you go about your daily business. There is a lot to pray for and to pray about.*

I know absolutely what you mean. At one time I was one of those Catholics that came only a few times a year, namely Ash Wednesday, Christmas and Easter. I somehow fell away from the Church but came back on Easter Sunday 5 years ago.

I grew up Catholic (we even said the family Rosary,) went to parochial schools, and married in the Church, but somehow lost my way after that. Some of that was due to moving around a lot, but some was due to pure laziness when I began working and apathy concerning the Church in the 70’s. All this time my parents, even when retired prayed the Rosary. When we visited them I always made sure I went to Church with them but I know they knew we weren’t “regulars”.

Finally, a few months after my dad died, during Holy Week I got a great urge to go to Confession and come back to the Church. It was VERY difficult! Most of the priests were “too busy” (and I spoke to their secretaries to make appointments, or they just weren’t having them.

On Holy Saturday I went to my parish church and begged one of the priests to hear my Confession but “they were too busy”, and I explained I had been out of the Church for 25 years!

At last I called a neighboring parish, and this priest agreed to hear my Confession if I could be there within 15 minutes. I did, God bless Him, so I was able to do this.

He told me to “forgive” the other priests as they are all busy on that day, and I did, but it sure was a difference from the fifties when a priest would always be available to do this!

It takes persistence, and I admire you going to Church often despite your working schedule and other commitments. You are planting seeds, and some of these lax Catholics may return someday because of you, or become curious to see what our Church offers because of your example.
 
I rather suspect that here in South Louisiana that our churches are full on Ash Wednesday because the day before is Mardi Gras. However, Good Friday is a holiday here as well. Stations of the Cross are well attended and the Good Friday Liturgy has always been well attended ever since I was a kid in the '50s.
 
Back in the early part and middle of the 20th Century all the business establishments and offices in town would close between the hours of 12 Noon till 3 for the Good Friday Services. The Church in my town was usually packed. That shut down has not been the case for some years now. I can’t recall when it stopped, but it did. In more recent times Good Friday services are held in the afternoon and again in the evening. There seems to be a pick up in the number of people turning out.🙂
 
Restaurants, movie theaters, bars, and, yes, even Bourbon St. closed in New Orleans in the 50s and 60s. It stopped in the 70s after Vatican II.
 
Seriously, I think people want to worship and be part of Church.

Ash Wednesday gives them an opportunity. They try. Having ashes on ones forehead is embarassing. They give it a try.

But then they get dragged back by their lack of home support or competition from other activities.

It can be very difficult. There is peer pressure to hang out or to golf or to party the night before.

I can remember being “embarrassed” at having to stop some activity to get to Mass. Everyone is having a good time, and I looked at my watch and said, gotta go to Mass. [Long Story]. Or, “hey how come you don’t do such and such with us”. * I just gave her a wink.

Or maybe, someday, my good example might trigger a thought to try going to daily Mass and skipping having lunch with the same work friends every day.

Easter and Christmas … maybe just a “party” or a “happening”. The music. The flowers. The crowds of people. Very exciting. An event.

I have never heard a priest at his Christmas homily or Easter homily invite people to return the next Sunday. [They will sometimes welcome visitors and/or mention the need for “proper disposition” for reception of Holy Communion.] Or inviting people to RCIA or religious instruction. Maybe they should have a second round of religious education courses AFTER Easter Sunday so that people who only show up on Easter Sunday will have something to be invited to.

Never heard a priest in his Christmas or Easter homily address it to educating the once a year Catholics.

I remember once, after a very crowded Mass, finding a consecrated Host in a pew.

It’s very terrible to me, when one of my non-Catholic or non-practicing Catholics, dies. I feel like it’s me who is plunged into Hell. When my friends (or even strangers) skip Mass, I feel their pain.

Sorry to go on like this.

Spend your days in prayer. As you go about your daily business. There is a lot to pray for and to pray about.*

At the parish my daughter belongs to they took advantage of the fact that the non-regulars showed up on Christmas by giving every person (or family) a copy of Matthew Kelly’s book
Rediscovering Catholicism at the door. Of course, I don’t know how many people came back to the faith after reading it, (or even read it), but I thought it was a very good effort, and I’m willimg to bet it had some effect, and was certainly better than doing or saying nothing. This book is available for groups or parishes for only the cost of shipping.
 
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