Why is the Eucharistic Prayer 2 used Exclusively

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Why is this prayer used so much? I know there are 4 of them, but number 2 is almost always used. And I hardly ever hear number 4.

Also there are 4 different responses after the priest says “let us proclaim the mystery of faith”. Again I can never figure out why one is chosen over the other, and I hardly ever hear the last 3.

One more thing, I have a calendar and it says the readings for the day, but it also says something like “(pss. prop)” and “(pss. 2)”. I have looked online, but I cant figure out what “pss” means. Im guessing it has something to do with the EPs, but I havent seen them used on those days.
 
I know there are 4 eucharistic prayer formulas but they all amount to the same thing. If you check the prayers through them all they all have the same effect. What is different is the length of each of them and of course the time it takes to recite them.

I do suppose that no 2 is favoured as a shorter form of the eucharistic prayer and is most often used during weekday Masses. Here in Naas our Parish Priest always uses EP no 1 in Sundays and Holy Days of Obligation. This is the one most resembling the wording of the Tridentine Rite Eucharistic Prayer.

A Eucharistic Prayer is a Eucharistic Prayer. The formula is the same in them all the effect is the same in them all. All that differs is the time taken to recite them.

As for the ‘Mysterium Fidei’ again it is just that. It is the one mystery of our faith proclaimed. The priest does not say ‘let us proclaim one of the mysteries’ but ‘Let us proclaim the mystery of faith’ Again the formula is the same, the wording different.

No matter what wording is used in the Mass it is the same mystery proclaimed: that of the death of Christ, His Ressurection and our eager anticipation of His second coming.

Let us not get caught up in what we prefer to hear or what we would like to hear over what we are actually hearing and continue to hear at each and every Holy Mass.

Oh and by the way, the Pss stands for the Psalter Week in the Liturgy of the Hours! It is the set of Psalms (Pss) that are to be recited during that particular season in the Church.

For more Ecclesiastical Abbreviations see newadvent.org/cathen/01022a.htm
 
I have seen all four of them used. Two & Three seem to be the most common but depending on the priest saying the mass and whether or not it is a feast day or holy day, I have also seen one and four used.
 
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Fergal:
I know there are 4 eucharistic prayer formulas but they all amount to the same thing. If you check the prayers through them all they all have the same effect. What is different is the length of each of them and of course the time it takes to recite them.

I do suppose that no 2 is favoured as a shorter form of the eucharistic prayer and is most often used during weekday Masses. Here in Naas our Parish Priest always uses EP no 1 in Sundays and Holy Days of Obligation. This is the one most resembling the wording of the Tridentine Rite Eucharistic Prayer.

A Eucharistic Prayer is a Eucharistic Prayer. The formula is the same in them all the effect is the same in them all. All that differs is the time taken to recite them.

As for the ‘Mysterium Fidei’ again it is just that. It is the one mystery of our faith proclaimed. The priest does not say ‘let us proclaim one of the mysteries’ but ‘Let us proclaim the mystery of faith’ Again the formula is the same, the wording different.

No matter what wording is used in the Mass it is the same mystery proclaimed: that of the death of Christ, His Ressurection and our eager anticipation of His second coming.

Let us not get caught up in what we prefer to hear or what we would like to hear over what we are actually hearing and continue to hear at each and every Holy Mass.

Oh and by the way, the Pss stands for the Psalter Week in the Liturgy of the Hours! It is the set of Psalms (Pss) that are to be recited during that particular season in the Church.

For more Ecclesiastical Abbreviations see newadvent.org/cathen/01022a.htm
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Thanks that was great.

However, I really dont know what to say. I think that the First EP is the only one that should be used, because the other ones dont even come close it. I dont know how to say it in words, number 1 is far better than the others. Also I am uncomfortable with this pick and chose stuff, I can understand if there are set dates to use them, but it seems like there is a gross imbalance between EP2 and the rest.
 
I know of at least eight Eucharistic Prayers:
  • Four Regular
  • Two Reconciliation
  • Two Children
I have heard the first six used with #2 and #3 being the most popular. #2 is used due to time constraints since it is the shortest. This is especially true for daily Mass.

Also, priests have favories. In my previous parish, you could bookmark which Eucharistic Prayer would be used based on which priest was doing the Mass.

As for the Memorial Acclaimation, the parish I am in now uses all four. Again, it seems it is based on the preference of the priest.
PF
 
In Rome’s good time, the English translation of the new Roman Missal will be completed. It will answer some of these concerns. We keep hearing that it will be out soon. The memorial acclaimation, for instance will follow a certain prayer, so that you will know which one is going to be used, without waiting to hear what is decided. There will also be more Eucharistic prayers. They take naps in Italy every day. Maybe we Americans should slow down a little. We will just have to wait.

Deacon Tony
 
In France, there are over 10 of them. I’d wish they’d stick to the Cannon and that would be it.
 
Eddie:
It’s Canon. 😉

All:
Why is the Roman Canon, the “Eucharistic Prayer” used for over 1600 years as the standard EP for the Roman Rite now relegated to a minor position? Why you may ask? This is because it is too traditional, even in its modern form, for modernists.

Anyways, I have read many Lutheran and Anglican ministers’ testimonies that state that “EP 2” is suitable for them because it allows them to keep their false believes, such as consubstantion and that the Eucharist is only Christ for the duration of the liturgy, without scruple.
 
Heh, sorry. My spelling has been horrible as of late. Maybe because spring break is finally here for us college folks.
 
My home parish priest like number 2, its shorter, so he gets done with sunday mass in 40 minutes…
 
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katolik:
All:
Why is the Roman Canon, the “Eucharistic Prayer” used for over 1600 years as the standard EP for the Roman Rite now relegated to a minor position? Why you may ask? This is because it is too traditional, even in its modern form, for modernists.

Anyways, I have read many Lutheran and Anglican ministers’ testimonies that state that “EP 2” is suitable for them because it allows them to keep their false believes, such as consubstantion and that the Eucharist is only Christ for the duration of the liturgy, without scruple.
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What do you mean by minor position?

As for the second part, I have never heard of that. Where did this stuff come from where Catholics think of the Eucharist only as a symbol? I thought a huge point of being Catholic was BELIEVING in transubstantiation. Who cares about false believers, tell them its the CC way or the highway. If they believe its only a symbol then they are not Catholic plain and simple.
 
Catholic Dude:
What do you mean by minor position?

As for the second part, I have never heard of that. Where did this stuff come from where Catholics think of the Eucharist only as a symbol? I thought a huge point of being Catholic was BELIEVING in transubstantiation. Who cares about false believers, tell them its the CC way or the highway. If they believe its only a symbol then they are not Catholic plain and simple.
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I mean the Roman Canon was made one of the “EPs” instead of being the only one in the Roman Rite for over 1600 years.

Part 2:
Modernist philosophers told Catholics that the Eucharist is only a symbol and many bishops and priests followed. Look even the Bishop Lynch of Florida did! He ended Eucharistic Adoration so that people wouldn’t forget the Eucharist is a community thing!!
The sad thing about the whole New Mass is that it breeds these heretical inventions, in which even the bishops of the Catholic Church believe in !
 
Deacon Tony560:
In Rome’s good time, the English translation of the new Roman Missal will be completed. It will answer some of these concerns. We keep hearing that it will be out soon. The memorial acclaimation, for instance will follow a certain prayer, so that you will know which one is going to be used, without waiting to hear what is decided. There will also be more Eucharistic prayers. They take naps in Italy every day. Maybe we Americans should slow down a little. We will just have to wait.

Deacon Tony
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There will be more Eucharistic Prayers? Oh joy. I hope they add a couple more for kiddies. Those are so…inspiring. :rolleyes:
 
One of these, I think it is IV, some priests tend to eschew because of frequent references to “man” or “men”, that may tend to put off people who are overly sensitive to issues of “gender inclusive language”.

Not saying I have a problem with it… but I suppose not using it is better than trying to change all of the language to make it “inclusive”.
 
Catholic Dude:
Why is this prayer used so much? I know there are 4 of them, but number 2 is almost always used. And I hardly ever hear number 4.

Also there are 4 different responses after the priest says “let us proclaim the mystery of faith”. Again I can never figure out why one is chosen over the other, and I hardly ever hear the last 3.

One more thing, I have a calendar and it says the readings for the day, but it also says something like “(pss. prop)” and “(pss. 2)”. I have looked online, but I cant figure out what “pss” means. Im guessing it has something to do with the EPs, but I havent seen them used on those days.
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The priest has the option of choosing which Eucharistic Prayer to use as well as which mystery of faith is proclaimed, although for a Sunday Mass he may let the choir decide which one it wants to sing.
The Sacramentary states that Eucharistic Prayers I and III should be used on Sundays and Holy Days but it doesn’t mandate it. If a priest wants to use only one of the Eucharistic Prayers he may do it.
The reason Eucharistic Prayer IV is rarely said is because it has its own Preface. Masses during Advent, Christmas, Lent, and Easter have specific Prefaces to be used, which is why Eucharistic Prayer IV is rarely said. It is specifically reserved for Ordinary Time, and then usually during the week on which a saint’s feast day isn’t celebrated.
The gender issue isn’t a reason because I’ve been to daily Mass at churches where the priest will substitute “us” for “man” or “men.” Modernists don’t like to be reminded there are specific roles for men and women. It goes against their ideology.
 
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