Why is the Pope silent on the Notre Dame/Obama controversy?

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And why did he approve the “honorary canon” status of pro-CHOICE president Sarkozy of France? Don’t bestow any honors on pro-choice Catholics…except I can, I’m the Pope!

Is a little leadership from the head of the Catholic Church too much to ask for?
 
There is no controversy for the Pope to speak of.

A small number of politically conservative Catholics are taking the opportunity to knock a president that they do not agree with.

They are also coming out full force against any Catholics that do not agree with them.

I suppose, if there is a controversy to speak of, it is the action of conservative Catholics in this matter.
 
jjdrury81 said:
There is no controversy for the Pope to speak of.

A small number of politically conservative Catholics are taking the opportunity to knock a president that they do not agree with.
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I don’t think that this has anything to do with politics. It’s about a School that claims to be a Catholic institution and yet, does not act Catholic. It’s kind of like a person who claims to be a good Catholic but then supports and even funds genocide. One doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to realize that the person really isn’t what he claims to be.
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They are also coming out full force against any Catholics that do not agree with them.
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Yes, the poor pro-death catholics are being beat down by the mean pro-life Catholics. :eek: Sorry, I’m just not seeing it.
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I suppose, if there is a controversy to speak of, it is the action of conservative Catholics in this matter.
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No, the controversy being spoken of in this case is with the school’s decision to honor a man that supports murdering innocent babies. Unlike you, I won’t label Catholics either conservative or liberal because I know good Catholics on both sides who know and accept Church teaching on the issue of abortion. So to say something like, “liberal Catholics support murder” would be unfair. But I will say simply that there are some who “think” that they are Catholic and cry Lord Lord yet they are not members of the body. To those… I say, I will pray for you.
 
The Pope flubbed this one. His silence has caused confusion and scandal. He should have spoke out against the invitation to Notre Dame.

The Church is sowing the seeds for its decline, as it has been for the last few decades.
 
The Pope did not need to sound out.

ALL of the US Bishops should have sounded out, but all of them did not.

This fact speaks volumes, that these shepherds are not leading us, their flock.

Eddie Mac
 
The bishops who did not speak out are part of the scandal. At the head of the scandal is Pope Benedict, who was silent when he needed to speak out.
 
The Holy Father’s apparent silence should not be mistaken as a missed opportunity or as a lapse in judgment. The Holy Father addressed the matter long before it even happened. During his apostolic visit to America in 2008, Pope Benedict XVI held a meeting with every Catholics college and university president in the crypt chapel of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception. There he basically laid down the law on how and why these institutions should offer authentic Catholic education and uphold the precepts of the Church. Clearly, Fr. Jenkins of Notre Dame clearly ignored the Holy Father. And this has not gone unnoticed in Rome, I assure you.
 
OKCatholic said:
The Holy Father’s apparent silence should not be mistaken as a missed opportunity or as a lapse in judgment. The Holy Father addressed the matter long before it even happened. During his apostolic visit to America in 2008, Pope Benedict XVI held a meeting with every Catholics college and university president in the crypt chapel of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception. There he basically laid down the law on how and why these institutions should offer authentic Catholic education and uphold the precepts of the Church. Clearly, Fr. Jenkins of Notre Dame clearly ignored the Holy Father. And this has not gone unnoticed in Rome, I assure you.
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Thank you for your post.

Eddie Mac
 
Eddie_Mac said:
The Pope did not need to sound out.

ALL of the US Bishops should have sounded out, but all of them did not.

This fact speaks volumes, that these shepherds are not leading us, their flock.

Eddie Mac
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Amen!
 
Gerard, I understand how we can get frustrated, but we should not let that come out as attacks against the Church.

The Holy Father is very, very busy. He cannot officiate every single failing at all times. I have every confidence that Rome is well aware of the situation and is dealing with it.

We likely will never know exactly how or to what extent that is.

We should look at the positive angle to this: we are learning who the wolves are. There are those conspiculously defending Notre Dame and they are only outing themselves as sowers of discord and those who refuse to acknowledge the supremacy of the Church.
 
KingTheoden said:
Gerard, I understand how we can get frustrated, but we should not let that come out as attacks against the Church.

The Holy Father is very, very busy. He cannot officiate every single failing at all times. I have every confidence that Rome is well aware of the situation and is dealing with it.

We likely will never know exactly how or to what extent that is.

We should look at the positive angle to this: we are learning who the wolves are. There are those conspiculously defending Notre Dame and they are only outing themselves as sowers of discord and those who refuse to acknowledge the supremacy of the Church.
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Thank you for this post.
 
I just saw Alan Keyes on Fox.

He said that it is very unusual for a head of state (i.e. the Pope) to call another head of state evil. So he did the next best thing and sent the highest ranking American in the Vatican to lay out the ground rules. I can’t remember his name, but it seems that this guy made it crystal clear that ND should not have invited BO, and ESPECIALLY should not have given him an honorary degree.

The above is paraphrased based on my sometimes faulty memory.
 
I think the Pope has a lot more important things to worry about than the President speaking at a Catholic university.

Jean
 
I think the Pope has a lot more important things to worry about than the President speaking at a Catholic university.

Jean
 
ricmat said:
I just saw Alan Keyes on Fox.

He said that it is very unusual for a head of state (i.e. the Pope) to call another head of state evil. So he did the next best thing and sent the highest ranking American in the Vatican to lay out the ground rules. I can’t remember his name, but it seems that this guy made it crystal clear that ND should not have invited BO, and ESPECIALLY should not have given him an honorary degree.

The above is paraphrased based on my sometimes faulty memory.
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Please can you link this because it does help people to not lose faith in the Church.

Paul

p.s Sometimes I think the Pope is trying to put off the day when we start getting owned for our Faith by not speaking out to heavily.
 
It probably has something to do with the role of the bishops. It could be that the Pope, as well as the bishops, see this as an American fight, to be fought by American clergy and laypeople.

The Pope might get involved if direly necessary. But both the American bishops and the Pope could be thinking that the Church of America must stand on its own two feet in this battle.

For what it’s worth, I find it refreshing to have heard so many bishops condemn this. I think the Pope’s voice on this specific issue would overpower that right now, which I think would be a detriment to the Church in America.
 
I believe that Archbishop Burke came to the United States to deliver an invited presentation. In any case, the Archbishop would not be a good candidate to
deliver any message from Pope Benedict. Remember, this is the same person
who entered into several conflicts with the President of St. Louis University, Rev. Lawrence Biondi, SJ, while he was Archbishop of St. Louis, and came out on the
short end each time. And while in Rome he was duped into a filmed interview with Randall Terry during which he spoke critically of several of his former colleagues.
He later had to apologize for his remarks and to indicate that he was speaking on
his own and not as a member of the papal administration.

I think comments by Cardinal Rigali of Philadelphia or Cardinal George of Chicago
might better reflect any “message” being send by Rome, if in fact such messages
are ever sent.
 
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