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Is it? Did the Orthodox add books from the LXX to the canon after the Great Schism? Or did they continue using the “canon” that was used in the “undivided church”?
It would be interesting to hear from the Orthodox.
Why is there not a single Protestant Understanding of the Bible?
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It would be interesting to hear from the Orthodox.
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No I have not learned to use the quote feature yet, I have been working on it, so you will just have to bear with me. I know your computer savy.Huh? Any* other i*nspired documents?
What would these be? And how does one know that they’re “inspired”?
Luv, have you learned how to use the quote feature yet? Instead of clicking on “post reply” look at the bottom right hand corner of the post you’re responding to. There’s an icon that says “quote”. Hit that, and the post that you’re replying to will appear.
It makes it easier to dialogue with you if we know exactly to what you’re responding. Thanks!
I have tried that multi quote button and it messes everything up for me.
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Don’t use the multi-quote. Just use the “quote” button, just like you did here.No I have not learned to use the quote feature yet, I have been working on it, so you will just have to bear with me. I know your computer savy.
I have tried that multi quote button and it messes everything up for me.
:extrahappy::dancing::clapping::yup:
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Sometimes the post is so long and I only want to reply to a bit of it. So I copy and post. I do know how to use the quote button. as you can see.
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**What would these be? And how does one know that they’re “inspired”? **
I don’t know another poster said the CC has other writings so I asked what they would be.
I don’t know another poster said the CC has other writings so I asked what they would be.
Hi Anthony,
This seems troublesome, in that it implies that the Catholic Church doesn’t know about these other books, if they are canon or not. Yet, Trent was infallible. Yes?
Oddly enough, this appears similar to the position of the Lutheran Church regarding the antilegomena (historically contested books) of both testaments. Minimally, and for doctrinal purposes, the homolegomena (universally attested books) are indeed canon. The antilegomena, because they are historically disputed, are certainly important for reading, even liturgically, and study. In this way, they can (and should) be considered scripture.
I’d be curious as to how you conclude that the different views of the canon caused a domino effect.
Thanks,
Jon
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You just did it in post #221.Sometimes the post is so long and I only want to reply to a bit of it. So I copy and post. I do know how to use the quote button. as you can see.
Click on the button on the right corner that says “quote”.
I don’t believe this to be the case. Christ clearly calls for us all to be one. I think it would be inconsistent, then, for God to accept as what He wants the divisions of His Church which are clearly caused by human sin - on all sides.
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Ha Ha I meant the multi-quote button. Like you do!!
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No, Luv, The Catholic Church does not claim that any other writings are inspired. Only that which is in the Bible is considered inspired.
The Catholic Church does indeed have other writings. But they are NOT inspired. Some are encyclicals. Some are apostolic exhortations. Some are papal bulls. Some writings are infallible. Some are authoritative. Some are considered to be assisted by the Holy Spirit.
But nothing other than the Bible is considered to be inspired.
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So you believe that everyone should be Catholics or should be Protestants? one or the other?
No, as the way you phrase the question already implies a division. I believe that Christ meant what He said. I believe that the phrase, “one Lord, one faith, one Baptism”, means just that. I believe all Christians ought to be united in His One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, here in the Church Militant, just as they are in the Church Triumphant.
But your earlier statement implied that God was somehow instrumental, or at least complicit in the sad division of His Church. I do not believe that to be the case.
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Hi, Luv,
Just wondering if you could explain why you think the Church can’t explain the Bible for you, as you stated here:
Just wondering if you could explain why you think the Church can’t explain the Bible for you, as you stated here:
But yet you also say that when someone reads the Bible and concludes that Jesus is NOT divine, this is what you should do:No I don’t need the church to explain the bible for me. do you??
Why do you get to help someone with their misunderstandings and misinterpretations of Scripture, but the Church can’t do this as well?
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I must have taken this wrong Jon,
I think!
When it was stated God wants protestants the same as Catholic’s I took it as God wanting everyone.
Not wanting protestants in a way where they are separated from his Church, but as wanting protestants to be united with his church.
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Are we back to that now? Do I believe the CC can misinterpret scripture as much as say a protestant Church, well not for Catholics but maybe for protestants so I guess it depends on who is reading their interpretation.Hi, Luv,
Just wondering if you could explain why you think the Church can’t explain the Bible for you, as you stated here:
But yet you also say that when someone reads the Bible and concludes that Jesus is NOT divine, this is what you should do:
Why do you get to help someone with their misunderstandings and misinterpretations of Scripture, but the Church can’t do this as well?
But yet you also say that when someone reads the Bible and concludes that Jesus is NOT divine, this is what you should do:
Now I don’t believe I ever said that.
Perhaps misread it, rinnie. If I did, hope Luvtosew will correct me.I must have taken this wrong Jon,
When it was stated God wants protestants the same as Catholic’s I took it as God wanting everyone.
Not wanting protestants in a way where they are separated from his Church, but as wanting protestants to be united with his church.
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Actually when coming to CAF I never knew such division existed. Something happened to start the Protestant reformation. Was it just an unhappy Luther?
I have no idea what the Chruch MIlitant or Church Triumphant is, can you explain that?
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Yep, so you never addressed it.
No, that’s not what I asked. :nope:
Okay.
So what do you think you should do when someone reads the bible and tells you that she believes that it says that Jesus is NOT divine. What would you tell her?
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You mean not the trinity? I would explain it the best I could till she got it,Yep, so you never addressed it.
No, that’s not what I asked. :nope:
Okay.
So what do you think you should do when someone reads the bible and tells you that she believes that it says that Jesus is NOT divine. What would you tell her?
what would you do?
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Yes. The Council of Rome in 384, etc. structured the walls of Biblical canon. The only thing it mandated was that the bricks layed down could not be removed. Trent simply put the roof on it to make known that the canon, as it were then VIA the Roman Catholic Church was closed. Protestants of all flavors are technically under the liturgical disciplines and jurisdiction of the Roman Catholic Church, not the Eastern Catholic churches or the Eastern Orthodox churches. They [Protestants] are simply “in protest”, somewhat similar to that of the SSPX.
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