Why is there religion

[Contarini]

science is more mordern,

Than Christianity or other traditional religions?

So is belief in alien abductions. So is scientology. So, for that matter, was Nazism (for all that some textbooks try to deny this by claiming that Nazism was in some mystical way a “rejection” of modernity).

I am not of course suggesting that science is of the same kind as these things, only that your chronological criterion isn’t a very good one. Plenty of modern ideas are silly or wicked–plenty of ideas in any era are silly or wicked. You need better criteria for determining truth and goodness.

Anyway, you still haven’t defined when “science” began. People have been studying the world around them for a very long time. Many would say that the pre-Socratic philosophers such as Thales were the first scientists, and they lived hundreds of years before Jesus or Muhammad, and about the same time as Buddha, the writers of the Upanishads (very important texts for Hinduism), and the compilers of the Old Testament in something like its present form. So I’m not sure that science is really more “modern” than the major religions, for what that’s worth.

and more and more people are starting to move away form religion

Vague and unsupported generalization, especially since you haven’t defined “religion” in the first place. People in the Western world seem less likely to identify themselves with one of the major Christian traditions, though some of these “nonreligious” people seem to be non-denominational evangelicals with an individualistic piety.

im not sure if its moving towards science. but i think we as humans have to move on. this whole religious thing is very confusing.

Is the last sentence the reason for the preceding one? You think that humans should abandon religion because you (after very little study, it appears) find religion confusing? Plenty of people find science confusing too. Should we abandon it as well?

Edwin

 

[Incomplete]

anyways
I use to be a catholic, and I was taught to forgive people, in the bible it made sense, but in reality if you forgive, then people just walk all over you, and the more you forgive, the worst your situation gets.
I was bullied, so I called my friends, and we did some payback, now he stopped bullying me, and the problem is solved.

I believe in science, because it has prove which other religions don’t.

So the bullying thing proves something? You need to understand what forgiveness is about. You don’t forgive to make things go away, and nowhere does God tell you that forgiveness is to make the other person or people change. And being a doormat may make the situation worse, but forgiving does not make you one. Jesus forgave, but nobody accused him of being one.

 

[Incomplete]

What reason is left to believe in something when it can’t be seen, smelt, touched, or heard?

There are lots of things in science that fall into these categories.

 

[jibbler]

There are lots of things in science that fall into these categories.

Name one. before you say gravity remember that it can be seen and felt

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

im a atheist, and i beleive in science. i beleive in what i can be proven.

Before science, people belief in the bible literally, even Jesus stated that he believed in it literally. Its hard to understand, science comes along, disproves many of the beliefs, and now people are saying that the bible is just a message. I’m confused. Jesus beliefs in the bible literally, yet Catholics don’t? And I understand, the earth being created in 7 days is a bit hard to believe. I believe in science.

There are so many religions out there, in your case as Catholics; you would think other gods are false; it would be the same for the other religions. So which one is the true god? It is very safe to say that if they are all false, then there is no god.

We are products of Mother Nature, we are not born equal. Long time ago we wonder how and where we came form, I think this is when religion is born. I think people just make up stories which grow, and grow into what is now religion, a belief in false Storys.

Here is the truth (or at least the truth for me)
Evolution!!! I think its evolution makes more sense then gods creating them.

I also think that religion causes many conflicts. When you mix two religions together, the result is never good. As human we will always judge people, and we will fight over dumb thing.

I think Satanism makes a lot of sense, I read a little bit of their bible.
These are the stuff I think makes sense.

Thou shalt not take thy children to a Bible-believing church
Thou shalt not teach thy children to know and serve Jesus Christ
Thou shalt not spank thy children
Thou shalt enroll thy children in a day care center
Thou shalt teach thy children to worship sports
Thou shalt provide thy children with unrestricted entertainment
Thou shalt permit thy sons and daughters to start dating by the age of sixteen

Although the satanic belief is much widely rejected, the commandments make much sense.

anyways
I use to be a catholic, and I was taught to forgive people, in the bible it made sense, but in reality if you forgive, then people just walk all over you, and the more you forgive, the worst your situation gets.
I was bullied, so I called my friends, and we did some payback, now he stopped bullying me, and the problem is solved.

I believe in science, because it has prove which other religions don’t.

Why ? Depends on whether one is talking about:​

• the visible/controllable/historical aspects of it - or
• the “spiritual” aspects of it

Why is there religion ? As a manifestation of a culture in its relation to entities considered “other” than man, & greater. Christianity is separable from cultures in a way that Roman religion, for most of its history, was not; ancient religions usually were not.

Do you mean the unseen, untraceable religious faculty of responding to the numinous ? It’s not accessible to the sciences - its manifestations, are or can be. For instance: the bodily effects or concomitants of prayer are measurable - but the thing being done, the praying, is not; still less is being prayed to. Science has no means of penetrating into the realm of the numinous - it can trace bodily reactions, but not the touch of the god who causes them. So science’s methods would be able to measure the religious awe of a devotee of a god - but not to recognise religious awe as religious awe; it would be able to recognise the tears, trembling & such-like phenomena, but would be powerless to tell the difference between the chemistry of mourning & the chemistry of joy.

God acts, not as an interloper into the world accessible to the senses, but as God Who is its Lord & Creator & Saviour. Scientific knowledge does not replace God, because it is not alternative to God; it is a means by which the untraceable & infinite God works. He is not like a car forcing the car of science off the road, or flattening it, and leaving it a useless wreck; because He is not like it, or anything else in creation. He is not “related to” creation - He relates all His creation to Him. It has its legitimacy, & methods proper to it; it is not, as a discipline, the same thing as theology; yet it is as truly dependent for its being, purpose, methods, life, health & progress on the God Whom theology studies, as is every entity. God is not known by science because He is its environer, its atmosphere - He is too close to be noticeable, as in one of the photographs in which a pinhead is magnified a million times; it is a pinhead, but can’t be seen as one.

God cannot be proven - He is not the statements, nor their truth-value, that are made about Him. But God can be revealed - which is why Jesus Christ matters; because He is the man Who is God’s revelation of Himself to men. He is the Saviour of Science.

 

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Name one. before you say gravity remember that it can be seen and felt

Seriously? I’ve never seen or felt gravity and didn’t realize others could. Before I get into naming things, you might want to tell me how you define “seen” and “felt”. I’ve only seen or felt the effects of gravity, which isn’t the same thing.

By the way, I’m not trying to “prove” God. I’m trying to address this one particular question. (And as an aside to your post, Catholics don’t believe in the Rapture.)

And I should’ve added that you probably believe in other things that can’t be seen, smelled, touched, or heard. You believe, for example, in thoughts. You believe George Washington was the first president of the United States. Those are just a couple of things that I assume you believe that don’t meet these categories.

Oh, one more thing. I’m gonna be gone for a couple of days so won’t be able to reply to this for awhile.