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stumpee
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Wrong, the Catholic church, in order to support the state and stay out of trouble, does not recognize marriages that are sacramental only in nature.
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on_the_hill
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It’s a legal contract, as others have posted.
It keeps society organized in terms of taxes, health and welfare benefits, Social Security, workers compensation, insurance, inheritance, divorce, custody, estates, fiduciary power, power of attorney, etc. The state needs to have records of marriages, children, adoptions, divorces, etc. so that all of those things can be organized into some sensible body of laws.
The state recognizes my Catholic marriage as a valid contract, which is why we had to apply to the county for a marriage license prior to our wedding. I was married in the Church, not in front of a government official. All the state laws that apply to civil marriage apply to my Sacramental Marriage.
Moreover, there exists (in my state) Common Law Marriage, which is very simply defined. As long as two people publicly recognize each other as spouses, they are Common Law married.
It keeps society organized in terms of taxes, health and welfare benefits, Social Security, workers compensation, insurance, inheritance, divorce, custody, estates, fiduciary power, power of attorney, etc. The state needs to have records of marriages, children, adoptions, divorces, etc. so that all of those things can be organized into some sensible body of laws.
The state recognizes my Catholic marriage as a valid contract, which is why we had to apply to the county for a marriage license prior to our wedding. I was married in the Church, not in front of a government official. All the state laws that apply to civil marriage apply to my Sacramental Marriage.
Moreover, there exists (in my state) Common Law Marriage, which is very simply defined. As long as two people publicly recognize each other as spouses, they are Common Law married.
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Were there not marriages before Christianity? If I remember correctly, even pagans married.
Besides, not everybody wants a Church wedding. What if they’re atheist or non-religious?
Many people are not religious but still wish to be married and besides, what if they want to be married but are not a member of any Church community. Don’t you have to be Catholic to get married in a Catholic church?
Besides, not everybody wants a Church wedding. What if they’re atheist or non-religious?
Many people are not religious but still wish to be married and besides, what if they want to be married but are not a member of any Church community. Don’t you have to be Catholic to get married in a Catholic church?
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stumpee
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Well, yes, atleast one has to be a Catholic to consider being married in the Catholic church. If you are not, “religous” why would you even want to get married in a church?
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stumpee
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Thank you for your relpy. Are you aware if there is any written rules that I can get my hands on to support this? My mother will not believe any information probably, even in writing, but that would be best to support my point.
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Blood_Angel
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I’m not even sure. I just know that some people, especially girls might want a Church wedding who aren’t even religious, maybe this happens in England only but I’ve seen it before in Anglican Churches especially, it’s like they meet the priest and start going for a couple of times, get married and then stop going!
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Havard
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This is a two-year-old post/thread.
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VanSensei
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Eliminating civil marriage would be a disastrous thing for America. We are a country of all faiths and creeds. If someone does not want a religious marriage, what they want should still be called marriage. We are not going to become a nation like Israel for the good of the few. In Israel, you can either get married under the Rabbinate (which only recognizes Orthodox Jewish conversions and those with at least, a Jewish mother) or not at all, which harms those who do not want, or cannot procure a Jewish wedding (immigrants with a Jewish father only) in the eyes of the State.
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stumpee
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Sorry if it is an “old thread”. I am a person looking for info and all I got when searching was stuff on gay marriage, civil unions etc, no spec information. Sorry, but I apprec any info.
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Havard
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Blessings, and I hope you get all the info you are looking for!
I thought you might like to know, as the poster you were responding to has likely forgotten about this thread and may not return to it.
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DrTaffy
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That assumes that the State copied the word ‘marriage’ from the Church, as opposed to the other way round.
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