Why is this not a sin?

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Say, if you said “Hitler had a nice mustache”. Why is that not a sin?

Assuming that Hitler was evil, then wouldn’t it be a gravely disordered sense of judgment to comment on the niceness of his mustache when he did so many bad things, that he deserves no less than total hatred (his human nature excepted)?

I mean for instance, no one comments on the beauty of a well executed murder, precisely because murder is so reprehensible that to find the good in it, is perverted.
 
fakename said:
Say, if you said “Hitler had a nice mustache”. Why is that not a sin?

Assuming that Hitler was evil, then wouldn’t it be a gravely disordered sense of judgment to comment on the niceness of his mustache when he did so many bad things, that he deserves no less than total hatred (his human nature excepted)?

I mean for instance, no one comments on the beauty of a well executed murder, precisely because murder is so reprehensible that to find the good in it, is perverted.
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Well, it depends on if you are commenting on the sin or the sinner. A sinner, no matter how bad, can have something nice about them (though I wouldn’t say Hitlers mustache is nice 🙂 )

For example, one cannot say that an affair is a beautiful relationship, but the two people in the relationship can be beautiful.
 
I think Hitler’s moustache looked downright idiotic.

Who the heck would intentionally groom a moustache to look like THAT??
It was as ugly as homemade sin.

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Jaypeeto4 said:
I think Hitler’s moustache looked downright idiotic.

Who the heck would intentionally groom a moustache to look like THAT??
It was as ugly as homemade sin.

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+JMJ+
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Charlie Chaplin would grow a mustache like that.
 
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Say, if you said “Hitler had a nice mustache”. Why is that not a sin?

Assuming that Hitler was evil, then wouldn’t it be a gravely disordered sense of judgment to comment on the niceness of his mustache when he did so many bad things, that he deserves no less than total hatred (his human nature excepted)?

I mean for instance, no one comments on the beauty of a well executed murder, precisely because murder is so reprehensible that to find the good in it, is perverted.
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I understand Hitler was a lover of animals, particularly dogs (as was Goebbals), and that he was even a vegetarian. But so what? Everyone has certain admirable qualities, even Hitler, who is regarded by many as the epitome of evil.
 
fakename said:
Say, if you said “Hitler had a nice mustache”. Why is that not a sin?

Assuming that Hitler was evil, then wouldn’t it be a gravely disordered sense of judgment to comment on the niceness of his mustache when he did so many bad things, that he deserves no less than total hatred (his human nature excepted)?

I mean for instance, no one comments on the beauty of a well executed murder, precisely because murder is so reprehensible that to find the good in it, is perverted.
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I don’t think it is the sin to complement the aesthetics of something without making a comment about its capacity for good or evil.

I bit a good looking apple one time. It was rotten and I was disappointed. That didn’t take away from the pretty green color that the apple was graced with. I don’t think there is anything wrong with appreciating the positives of something while acknowledging and accepting its negatives. I wouldn’t have told someone that it was a good apple but I might have told someone it was a pretty one.

Does Hitler deserve no less than total hatred? That is a question that I feel needs to be answered.

My response is that no, Hitler doesn’t deserve total hatred. He deserves to be prayed for and remembered. We need to pray for the sake of his soul. He committed an innumerable amount of atrocities during WWII and the Holocaust. We still don’t know the state of his soul and he should be prayed for like everyone who has passed. We cannot suppose that we know who is in hell or not. We should pray for everyone we can. We can never forget what happened and what he did. To do that would be ignorant and dangerous. We have to remember that every mortal sin weighs the same in the eyes of God and to pray for the ability to acknowledge the sins we commit and to ask for God’s forgiveness.
 
The word in English to “utterly condemn” is ‘damn’. Far be it from me, an unbeliever to point this out, but don’t Christians leave that role to someone else? That would eave you free to admire the facial hair of Hitler, or Stalin, or Caligula (although I think he shaved).
 
"I don’t think it is the sin to complement the aesthetics of something without making a comment about its capacity for good or evil.

I bit a good looking apple one time. It was rotten and I was disappointed. That didn’t take away from the pretty green color that the apple was graced with. I don’t think there is anything wrong with appreciating the positives of something while acknowledging and accepting its negatives. I wouldn’t have told someone that it was a good apple but I might have told someone it was a pretty one."

Well, my question may have been too specific. I should also ask, is it okay to call a mortal sin good? After all, if it was chosen then it was good at some level (as no one chooses evil per se). But wouldn’t it be perverse to say that a mortal sin was good?
 
Hitler wasn’t evil. He was a sinner. And a grave one at that. It’s easy to forget any one of us are capable of the evil acts he wrought. He was a human being, not some kind of demonic demi-god or satan incarnate. He was the same as you and me. He just made incredibly horrid choices that brought unimaginable suffering to countless people. It’s not easy to compare oneself to hitler as prayerfully none of us will probably be behind the next genocide lol But its important to remember that evil as his actions were he was still a human being and was still loved by God. I’m sure God, more than anyone, wanted for Hitler to repent his sins and come back to Him before his death but Hitler chose his own path. He lead himself to destruction. Did he deserve it? No. No one deserves death. His victims certainly did not deserve the horrible fate they met, but as a Catholic even with something as extreme as Hitler its important to remember he did not “deserve” to die. No one does.
 
fakename said:
Say, if you said “Hitler had a nice mustache”. Why is that not a sin?

Assuming that Hitler was evil, then wouldn’t it be a gravely disordered sense of judgment to comment on the niceness of his mustache when he did so many bad things, that he deserves no less than total hatred (his human nature excepted)?

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please tell us where you are getting your definitions of sin, because most of your posts deal with things that are not remotely in the wildest imagination sinful. makeing erroneous judgments is not sinful. making personal remarks is not sinful. Only sins are sinful, and only with full knowledge and intention to sin.

you must tell us who has been telling you these things are sinful because that person is gravely misleading you.
 
Say, if you said “Hitler had a nice mustache”. Why is that not a sin?
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Because you might actually think it looks good.
Assuming that Hitler was evil, then wouldn’t it be a gravely disordered sense of judgment to comment on the niceness of his mustache when he did so many bad things, that he deserves no less than total hatred (his human nature excepted)?
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Um…what makes you think that he “deserves total hatred”? That might be the position of the ADL, but it’s not the position of the Catholic Church.
I mean for instance, no one comments on the beauty of a well executed murder, precisely because murder is so reprehensible that to find the good in it, is perverted.
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A murder is not a moustache.
 
"please tell us where you are getting your definitions of sin, because most of your posts deal with things that are not remotely in the wildest imagination sinful. makeing erroneous judgments is not sinful. making personal remarks is not sinful. Only sins are sinful, and only with full knowledge and intention to sin.

you must tell us who has been telling you these things are sinful because that person is gravely misleading you. "

Well not to derail the thread too much, the only person misleading me is me since I came up with these ideas. They seem pretty true for a few reasons:

erroneous judgments are sinful it seems, because they are a type of imprudence. (If you have any reason why errors are not imprudent then by all means share it).

As for personal remarks being sinful, I never said that it was, but some personal remarks are probably sinful -which is something I’m dealing with in this thread.
 
fakename said:
Well, my question may have been too specific. I should also ask, is it okay to call a mortal sin good? After all, if it was chosen then it was good at some level (as no one chooses evil per se). But wouldn’t it be perverse to say that a mortal sin was good?
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All I am saying is that a mustache is not a mortal sin.
 
erroneous judgments are sinful it seems
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So, is it a nice moustache or not? If it’s a nice moustache and and you call it nice…

Is this thread a joke?
 
fakename said:
"please tell us where you are getting your definitions of sin, because most of your posts deal with things that are not remotely in the wildest imagination sinful. makeing erroneous judgments is not sinful. making personal remarks is not sinful. Only sins are sinful, and only with full knowledge and intention to sin.

you must tell us who has been telling you these things are sinful because that person is gravely misleading you. "

Well not to derail the thread too much, the only person misleading me is me since I came up with these ideas. They seem pretty true for a few reasons:

erroneous judgments are sinful it seems, because they are a type of imprudence. (If you have any reason why errors are not imprudent then by all means share it).

As for personal remarks being sinful, I never said that it was, but some personal remarks are probably sinful -which is something I’m dealing with in this thread.
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I would think personal remarks might be sinful if they are communicated intentionally or just insensitively to someone who one has reason to believe would be offended by them. In the case of Hitler, praising his virtues (as an animal lover, for example) while aware of doing so in the presence of a Holocaust survivor might be regarded as an occasion of (venial) sin, perhaps even without the express intent of hurting the individual, and a graver sin when accompanied by the intent of doing harm. However, having a favorable personal opinion about Hitler which one does not express willfully or insensitively toward those who one knows would be offended, does not appear to me to be sinful. Perhaps Catholic teaching does not agree: I cannot claim to have firsthand knowledge of all the nuances. Judaism also has several categories and criteria regarding sin, but I would have to check on its interpretation of this matter as well.
 
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