Why Islam Remains Peaceful

[Mosacked]

If I say…

I think Umar Farouk should be forgiven as he is seriously just insane, his terorrist act of bombing the American plane has nothing to do with islam.

I also think Osama Bin Laden is not a real muslim because real muslims wouldn’t kill innocent people, so it has nothing to do with islam.

I also think that those terrorists who kill in the name of islam has taken the koran & hadiths out of contexts. Because those teachings apply only in those situtations.

I also think the muslims slaughtering the buddhists in thailand are politically motivated, it has nothing to do with islam.

I also believe the uighurs in china have been oppressed that’s why they are trying to establish an islamic state.

I also believe the chechnya terrorists were forced by circumstances to kill children because Russian governments gave these muslims a tough life. It has nothing to do with islam.

You see, all these TERRORIST ACTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM. Islam remains peaceful…even if all these ‘so-called’ muslims turn terrorists and wipe out the entire world and more muslims convert to terrorism because they are oppressed.

What would you think of my mental state/well-being?

muslimsopenyoureyes.blogspot.com

PS. If you are cancer stricken you should be dead but you’re not so you don’t have cancer. If my entire family were terrorists, then you could call my family a terrorist family but unfortunately for you, ONE of us has not turned terrorist, so we’re not a terrorists family. - That’s the kind of mentality you have with the muslims, and its pathetically outrageous that some non-muslims agree with them.

Islam Remains “Peaceful” because of the lack of sensibilities in some people. But don’t worry, this will all come to an end…cos such stupidity will cost us our very lives by our cold agreements. [The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing]

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[Sister_Amy]

Please don’t sport with our intelligence. If you wish to watch the shadows on the wall, go ahead. The rest of us shall fear not to wander in sunlight.

 

[Mosacked]

Please don’t sport with our intelligence. If you wish to watch the shadows on the wall, go ahead. The rest of us shall fear not to wander in sunlight.

Please tell me…Where is intelligence in a person who completely and blindly excuses another and calls him a prophet despite factual records of his murdering, robbing, lying, jumping in fright at the eclipse, incest, pedophilia etc.

Where?

You name it, he’s done it…and all of it excused!..either by claiming him to be mere human, calling him ‘anointed and therefore excused’, saying he killed in accordance to the practices of his time, he had sex with the infant because he had already managed to make her his infant wife etc etc.

The only sin that needs no repentance is the justified sin (if you don’t even recognise your sin you remain forever in your sin) and the biggest challenge Satan can pose to God is to appoint a prophet to commit all the shames under the sun and yet get EXCUSED for all of it. The Justified Sinner. Its APOSTASY.

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[dzheremi]

These kinds of threads remind me of the old pro-gun bumper sticker slogan: “Guns don’t kill people - People do”, meaning, I suppose, that the intention to kill is what causes people to murder each other; the means or method is essentially immaterial, so banning guns makes about as much sense as banning bricks, bats, wire, or any of the other objects that might be used to murder people.

My response to that is always that while it is essentially true, unfettered gun ownership by anyone of any background who might want to own a gun makes it a lot easier for people who already intend to kill people to do so. Perhaps a “Qur’an-carrying license” is in order, to certify that the reader is not a terrorist nutcase?

In all seriousness, even Muslims here have made a point of telling me that Allah supposedly judges by intention, so until you can find some way to purify the intention of the individual, it is going to be pretty darn impossible for Islam to truly BE peaceful. Anddd, since I have developed something of a sixth sense for this sort of thing and can already hear Staffsgt7’s reply in my head, yes, it does need to be said that in Islam what makes for a “good intention” is something that can be very different than what Christians would say is good (it is rather objectively not good to murder people for not accepting your religion, for instance). That is an equally huge problem, and that is why without any hint of hesitation I can support the stance of the likes of Fr. Zakariya Boutros, scourge of many an Islamist, who says in his famous “ten demands” speech that certain things ought to be struck from the Qur’an, especially if Muslims wish to bring their faith before others with the idea that it ought to be respected on the same grounds as any other. If this is so, then you’ll need to show how it actually does not conflict with the kinds of societies that Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists, etc. actually want to live in. It does no good to simply try to bend us to “the will of Allah” (Muhammad), as though this is the 12th century and you can cut our tongues out for saying “Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit, as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be” in front of your oh-so-sensitive global Ummah (boogeymen). No Nigerian on any plane or mujahid anywhere is going to take that right away from me. It is a right given by GOD, not by Islam, and the two are NOT equivalent terms for me!

 

[Sister_Amy]

So, dzheremi, would you say that this thread is worthy of participation or is it something akin to bait to lure in relentless argumentation through all manner of offensive and unsavory language?

I’m inclined to think the latter, but the gall of the original poster to state his odious opinions so decisively has really improved my mood for the night.

 

[Renko]

What rock did this idiot crawl out from under?

 

[dzheremi]

No, you’re right, it isn’t. I made my point when mentioning purifying the intention of the individual as something that outsiders cannot do, and threw in some personal reasons for not accepting Islam to boot. I am quite satiated as far as my silliness quotient is concerned. I always just figure that perhaps a thread like this could BECOME worthy, as a result of some natural back-and-forth of contesting opinions. If it doesn’t within a reasonable amount of time, I’ll unsubscribe.

 

[Sister_Amy]

No, you’re right, it isn’t. I made my point when mentioning purifying the intention of the individual as something that outsiders cannot do, and threw in some personal reasons for not accepting Islam to boot. I am quite satiated as far as my silliness quotient is concerned. I always just figure that perhaps a thread like this could BECOME worthy, as a result of some natural back-and-forth of contesting opinions. If it doesn’t within a reasonable amount of time, I’ll unsubscribe.

Perhaps that may be the case. Let us hope for the best.

 

[Julian0404]

If I say…

I think Umar Farouk should be forgiven as he is seriously just insane, his terorrist act of bombing the American plane has nothing to do with islam.
*And as Chritians, we to must forgive Umar Farouk, as we have been taught by Jesus to pray “…forgive us our tresspasses, as we forgive those who tresspass against us…” *

I also think Osama Bin Laden is not a real muslim because real muslims wouldn’t kill innocent people, so it has nothing to do with islam.OBL is a muslim

I also think that those terrorists who kill in the name of islam has taken the koran & hadiths out of contexts. Because those teachings apply only in those situtations.

I also think the muslims slaughtering the buddhists in thailand are politically motivated, it has nothing to do with islam. May I quote you : “… I also think . . . real muslims wouldn’t kill innocent people…”

I also believe the uighurs in china have been oppressed that’s why they are trying to establish an islamic state.
And to establish an islamic state inside of a non-islamic sovereign nation is o.k, because…?

I also believe the chechnya terrorists were forced by circumstances to kill children because Russian governments gave these muslims a tough life. It has nothing to do with islam.* Again - “I also think…real muslims wouldn’t kill innocent people…”*

You see, all these TERRORIST ACTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM. Islam remains peaceful…even if all these ‘so-called’ muslims turn terrorists and wipe out the entire world and more muslims convert to terrorism because they are oppressed.

The terrorist acts have everything to do with islam, as they are all initiated by believers of islam, initiated to achieve one of two paths to heaven for muslims, i.e. martyrdom. However if a muslim commits suicide they will not go to heaven, so they have to believe they are in a war fighting for their faith, in which case their suicide is considered “martyrdom”.

What would you think of my mental state/well-being?

muslimsopenyoureyes.blogspot.com**

PS. If you are cancer stricken you should be dead but you’re not so you don’t have cancer. If my entire family were terrorists, then you could call my family a terrorist family but unfortunately for you, ONE of us has not turned terrorist, so we’re not a terrorists family. - That’s the kind of mentality you have with the muslims, and its pathetically outrageous that some non-muslims agree with them.

Islam Remains “Peaceful” because of the lack of sensibilities in some people. But don’t worry, this will all come to an end…cos such stupidity will cost us our very lives by our cold agreements. [The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing]
Then do something about the Mullahs teaching improperly and encouraging this radicalized islamic suicidal attacks

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[Mosacked]

So, dzheremi, would you say that this thread is worthy of participation or is it something akin to bait to lure in relentless argumentation through all manner of offensive and unsavory language?

I’m inclined to think the latter, but the gall of the original poster to state his odious opinions so decisively has really improved my mood for the night.

Dear Sister Amy,

There is no room for argument, as you can see I have already argued IN FAVOR of islam. In my odious opinion, islam is a peaceful religion. Why do you fault me with it? I have found within myself all the ‘explanations’ or ‘excuses’ if you would like to call them to absolve islam from all blame.

muslimsopenyoureyes.blogspot.com

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[Sister_Amy]

Dear Sister Amy,

There is no room for argument, as you can see I have already argued IN FAVOR of islam. In my odious opinion, islam is a peaceful religion. Why do you fault me with it? I have found within myself all the ‘explanations’ or ‘excuses’ if you would like to call them to absolve islam from all blame.

muslimsopenyoureyes.blogspot.com

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Eh? You must not realize that people don’t take you any more seriously than you take yourself. That you refer to Islam as though it’s a person continues to amuse me, I have to say. All my best.

 

[Mosacked]

Eh? You must not realize that people don’t take you any more seriously than you take yourself. That you refer to Islam as though it’s a person continues to amuse me, I have to say. All my best.

Do you see islam as a person? That’s interesting. . Something new taught by your Imam perhaps?

PS. I’m not hoping for people to take me seriously, I’m hoping for them to take islam seriously…as evil.

 

[Sister_Amy]

Do you see islam as a person? That’s interesting. . Something new taught by your Imam perhaps?

PS. I’m not hoping for people to take me seriously, I’m hoping for them to take islam seriously…as evil.

No worries–I don’t think you’re in any danger of being taken seriously. Take care.

 

[Mosacked]

No worries–I don’t think you’re in any danger of being taken seriously. Take care.

You too, sister. I’m glad you don’t take me seriously, otherwise I’d have to visit my shrink. The last thing I want is for a muslim to agree with me. I wouldn’t want to visit a mental hospital and have the patients tell me I am very intelligent.

 

[Sister_Amy]

You too, sister. I’m glad you don’t take me seriously, otherwise I’d have to visit my shrink. The last thing I want is for a muslim to agree with me. I wouldn’t want to visit a mental hospital and have the patients tell me I am very intelligent.

Intelligence and insanity are not mutually exclusive, though I don’t think anyone here would accuse you of either.

 

[Mosacked]

What rock did this idiot crawl out from under?

For your information, its not a rock, its cave. And its called Hira Cave.

 

[Mosacked]

Intelligence and insanity are not mutually exclusive, though I don’t think anyone here would accuse you of either.

Sister Amy, I would very much like to call you intelligent, but after knowing that you are calling a man who by factual records, murdered, lied, robbed, jumped in fright at the eclipse, had sex with his own son’s ex-wife and slept with a 9 year old biologically underaged girl, YOUR prophet, and you blindly excused him for all these shames using all sorts of weird excuses, the word (intelligent) got stuck in my stomach.

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[Sister_Amy]

Sister Amy, I would very much like to call you intelligent, but after knowing that you are calling a man who by factual records, murdered, lied, robbed, jumped in fright at the eclipse, had sex with his own son’s ex-wife and slept with a 9 year old biologically underaged girl, YOUR prophet, and you blindly excused him for all these shames using all sorts of weird excuses, the word (intelligent) got stuck in my stomach.

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Please spare me any words which you find originating in your stomach, and check in with a doctor if you don’t feel better in the morning.

 

[mettstraw]

This is my religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness and understanding that far out weighs boarders and fences…that we are all of one kind and race…the human race on this Big Blue Marble in space

 

[Charlie_Zeaiter]

… You see, all these TERRORIST ACTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM. Islam remains peaceful…even if all these ‘so-called’ muslims turn terrorists and wipe out the entire world and more muslims convert to terrorism because they are oppressed…

I still am frightened of those terrorists who cut off some people’s heads with a knife and had it broadcasted over the internet.

I don’t know what bugs me more; The fact that these people are so primitive that they cut people’s heads off with a knife, or the fact that they are modern enough to know how to broadcast it over the internet?

What is it that links modern people with such ancient violence? Islam?