Why Islam Remains Peaceful

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KathleenGee said:
Sister Amy,

And it bothers me, being a native Northwesterner, to see such people with your attitude coming into our lands with such proud and separate ideas of humanity…

Really, I wish I had never known about all the fighting and wars of the MIddle East and do not want it with the hatred for our people here.

I was commenting to a Palestinian woman who has American citizenship on a secular site…she called the Jews vulgar names, she started to ask me what kind of bikini I wore, etc., called me a name for respecting the Jews I have worked with… Very insulting…it put bad feelings me in and I had to remove myself from her.

I wish all those who think they are superior to people of the West, to Christianity, really, why do you come here to profit from our lands…there must be atleast a few things good in us…to make our place desirable for you to feed off…

Show respect for the natives who provide for you…don’t anticipate a Muslim America…
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A Muslim America will never happen. Jesus promised the gates of hell would not prevail against His Church. 👍
 
planten said:
I also agree to all of the above. What some Muslims are doing today is not islam. The Muslims have wasted a lot of time (about 100 years) in spreading the wrong idealogy of Jihad with weapons. In present times, Jihad with weapons is not valid. There is not to be any Jihad with weapons.

But some well known Muslim leaders preached the subject and misled the poor Muslims into wrong ideas. The Muslims forgot the Jihad with Quran. Instead, they took up the Jihad with sword. That was a sin. In India, Pakistan and Egypt and few other countries, the subject of Jihad with weapons was preached.

They thought they could take on the world with weapons. There was no need and no order in Islam to do such a bad thing. So they have failed every where and brought a very bad name to Islam.
When Muslims were ignorant about many good priciples of Islam, why they took up the subject of Jihad. There was enough internal cleaning (Housekeeping) to be done for them instead of picking fights with non-Muslims.

Not only the subject of Jihad, but there were many other mistakes in the minds of the muslim clergy, such as calling all non-believers as Kafirs. There is no such teaching in Quran. A non-believer can remain non-Muslim and may do some research for the truth for whole lifetime and may never believe. As long he is calm and comfortable and peaceful, he is not a Kafir.

It appears that in the present times, it is the Muslims who are the Kafir. Any one who picks a fight for the sake of religion is a kafir. The Muslims are doing it today, in present times. They are fighting the other nations for the difference of religion. Allah is very unhappy with the so-called Muslims. He does not accept their prayers.

It is another thing that they are being beaten and killed in their own countries. That is a different thing and that has happened due to their own mistakes. Enough said.
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This is not true. When you are being attacked and your country is occupied, you have to fight jihad with the sword. OF course there are different types of jihads and jihad by the sword is still valid. The offensive jihad is not valid until the muslim ummah (muslim body) has an ameer (caliph). People can’t just go around killing non-muslims and wreak havoc in the lands.

Many people don’t know what Islam is and take their information from websites which have an evil intention like religionofpeace or prophetofdoom etc. And muslims are labeled terrorists because of the actions of a few. It’s like someone calling catholics child molesters because of the actions of a few priests. or shoudl i say quite a few priests.
 
Black_Ice said:
This is not true. When you are being attacked and your country is occupied, you have to fight jihad with the sword. OF course there are different types of jihads and jihad by the sword is still valid. The offensive jihad is not valid until the muslim ummah (muslim body) has an ameer (caliph). People can’t just go around killing non-muslims and wreak havoc in the lands.

Many people don’t know what Islam is and take their information from websites which have an evil intention like religionofpeace or prophetofdoom etc. And muslims are labeled terrorists because of the actions of a few. It’s like someone calling catholics child molesters because of the actions of a few priests. or shoudl i say quite a few priests.
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Or should you say less than 1/2% of priests? Your lack of knowledge is glaring! And there is outright condemnation of priests that violate their vows. Don’t even try to compare Islamic clerics with Christian priest/ministers. It’s just silly.
 
Black_Ice said:
This is not true. When you are being attacked and your country is occupied, you have to fight jihad with the sword. OF course there are different types of jihads and jihad by the sword is still valid. The offensive jihad is not valid until the muslim ummah (muslim body) has an ameer (caliph). People can’t just go around killing non-muslims and wreak havoc in the lands.

Many people don’t know what Islam is and take their information from websites which have an evil intention like religionofpeace or prophetofdoom etc. And muslims are labeled terrorists because of the actions of a few. It’s like someone calling catholics child molesters because of the actions of a few priests. or shoudl i say quite a few priests.
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Well, hello there new poster! I see your first post is directed at a thread.

What, no introduction for the welcoming members?

BTW -

NOT all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists these past few decades have been ALL muslims.
 
Black_Ice said:
This is not true. When you are being attacked and your country is occupied, you have to fight jihad with the sword. OF course there are different types of jihads and jihad by the sword is still valid. The offensive jihad is not valid until the muslim ummah (muslim body) has an ameer (caliph). People can’t just go around killing non-muslims and wreak havoc in the lands.

Many people don’t know what Islam is and take their information from websites which have an evil intention like religionofpeace or prophetofdoom etc. And muslims are labeled terrorists because of the actions of a few. It’s like someone calling catholics child molesters because of the actions of a few priests. or shoudl i say quite a few priests.
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An additional BTW - the member you replied to, Planten, is an Ahmadi islamic muslim.

You know their motto, “love for all, hatred for none” type businesss.

Sometimes I do wish the rest of islam can be like the Ahmadi muslims.

I know when I join a new forum on the net, I get to know the players/posters before I post asinine remarks.

And a trird BTW - be kind to your host which is CAF - you are in a Catholic Forum.

If a Cathiolic priest did OR DOES something wrong and IT IS brough to the public’s attention, WE CHRISTIANS/CATHOLICS are NOT silent about it.

Actions & law’s are in place for this sort of behavior.

Can’t say the same about islam.
 
Could someone please get the news that Islam remains peaceful to the Egyptian Coptic Christians who are being attacked by some who the Coptics think are muslims? Please clear up this case of mistaken identity so they can pursue the actual perpetrators.😦
 
pismopal said:
Could someone please get the news that Islam remains peaceful to the Egyptian Coptic Christians who are being attacked by some who the Coptics think are muslims? Please clear up this case of mistaken identity so they can pursue the actual perpetrators.😦
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HUH?

They were muslims attacking innocent Christians for a rape that was committed.
 
pismopal said:
Could someone please get the news that Islam remains peaceful to the Egyptian Coptic Christians who are being attacked by some who the Coptics think are muslims? Please clear up this case of mistaken identity so they can pursue the actual perpetrators.😦
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Oh wait… did I miss read that…??? :confused:

MY post deleted… pismopal… please be clear in your post. What are you talking about??? :confused:
 
jakasaki said:
Edit":

Oh wait… did I miss read that…??? :confused:

MY post deleted… pismopal… please be clear in your post. What are you talking about??? :confused:
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I am talking about the fact that Coptic Christians in Egypt are…and have been for a long time, under assault by armed muslims. The latest attacks involved burning churches and drive by murders of Coptics leaving church. Coptics have been rioting against the Egyptian police because of police indifference to the crimes. My post seemed to me to be obvious sarcasm but if you aren’t aware of muslim activity in Egypt and all over the world I can see where you would be confused. That is what I am talking about… "Why islam remains peaceful?’🤷
 
pismopal said:
I am talking about the fact that Coptic Christians in Egypt are…and have been for a long time, under assault by armed muslims. The latest attacks involved burning churches and drive by murders of Coptics leaving church. Coptics have been rioting against the Egyptian police because of police indifference to the crimes. My post seemed to me to be obvious sarcasm but if you aren’t aware of muslim activity in Egypt and all over the world I can see where you would be confused. That is what I am talking about… "Why islam remains peaceful?’🤷
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Okay…I misunderstood the post too. Sorry about that. I’m pretty sarcastic at times. I guess I better learn to recognize it too. 😃
 
 
 
Black_Ice said:
gibberish has nothing to do with my post. Please try to refute that there are no christian terrorists if you can. you won’t be able to like jasakasi
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What does have to do with your post are isolated incidents involving quacks. These were not cases of mass murder. These were not cases that were condoned by any Christian denominations…except the half dozen or so that nuts profess. The world is dealing with Muslims that are bent on killing vast numbers of innocent people to accomplish what the moon god allah wants. Your examples have no bearing. Let’s see…should I go to NNDB.com and find all the atheists or non-believers that have committed horrendous crimes against humanity.

Mass murder…the bombing of innocent civilians in Israel…trying to blow up planes. There’s just NO comparison. Please don’t tell me that Israel kills many civilians…because I know that. But Hamas and Hezbollah continuously lob rockets into Israel. I’m not the greatest fan of Israel…they persecute Christians and Arabs.

There is no comparison. Christians rarely retaliate against Muslims. Once it a while…but really rarely.
 
It is silly to argue that there are no Christian terrorists, though I would point out that there is a difference between secular nationalist organizations with mostly Christian leadership, like the National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) on that list, and other people whose terrorist activities are explicitly inspired by their particular understanding of the Bible. There have also been mainly Muslim organizations that have started this way (like Fatah), although often the boundary between secular and religious do not seem to be respected by nationalistically-minded groups made up of Muslims, e.g., the Moro Islamic Liberation Front in the Philippines, with the stated goal of “Liberation of the Moro people”, despite the fact that a deal with its parent organization, the Moro National Liberation Front, already secured the foundation of an Islamic state in the southern Philippines in 1987 (in the form of the Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao). It is not enough for them. They want “liberation”, alright, but in Islamist terms this is just code for complete Islamic control of the country to make an Islamic Philippines. They already got their “liberation”, but it’s not enough because that’s not really want they want. It’s the same thing with Hizbollah, Hammas, etc. They’re all just Islamists wrapping themselves in whatever flag is handy to get the mostly secular pan-Arabists behind them.
 
dzheremi said:
It is silly to argue that there are no Christian terrorists, though I would point out that there is a difference between secular nationalist organizations with mostly Christian leadership, like the National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) on that list, and other people whose terrorist activities are explicitly inspired by their particular understanding of the Bible. There have also been mainly Muslim organizations that have started this way (like Fatah), although often the boundary between secular and religious do not seem to be respected by nationalistically-minded groups made up of Muslims, e.g., the Moro Islamic Liberation Front in the Philippines, with the stated goal of “Liberation of the Moro people”, despite the fact that a deal with its parent organization, the Moro National Liberation Front, already secured the foundation of an Islamic state in the southern Philippines in 1987 (in the form of the Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao). It is not enough for them. They want “liberation”, alright, but in Islamist terms this is just code for complete Islamic control of the country to make an Islamic Philippines. They already got their “liberation”, but it’s not enough because that’s not really want they want. It’s the same thing with Hizbollah, Hammas, etc. They’re all just Islamists wrapping themselves in whatever flag is handy to get the mostly secular pan-Arabists behind them.
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Now that I won’t argue with. Nationalist groups that use a Christian name are different than islamists. And some are terrorist groups…but they are fighting amongst themselves and for what they perceive to be freedom.

Islamists are different…and you did say that. 🙂
 
dzheremi said:
It is silly to argue that there are no Christian terrorists, though I would point out that there is a difference between secular nationalist organizations with mostly Christian leadership, like the National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) on that list, and other people whose terrorist activities are explicitly inspired by their particular understanding of the Bible. There have also been mainly Muslim organizations that have started this way (like Fatah), although often the boundary between secular and religious do not seem to be respected by nationalistically-minded groups made up of Muslims, e.g., the Moro Islamic Liberation Front in the Philippines, with the stated goal of “Liberation of the Moro people”, despite the fact that a deal with its parent organization, the Moro National Liberation Front, already secured the foundation of an Islamic state in the southern Philippines in 1987 (in the form of the Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao). It is not enough for them. They want “liberation”, alright, but in Islamist terms this is just code for complete Islamic control of the country to make an Islamic Philippines. They already got their “liberation”, but it’s not enough because that’s not really want they want. It’s the same thing with Hizbollah, Hammas, etc. They’re all just Islamists wrapping themselves in whatever flag is handy to get the mostly secular pan-Arabists behind them.
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dzheremi,

when these ‘christians’ commit terror they don’t shout 'Jesus is Great!"…unlike muslims. You know why? Because their shameless acts have nothing to do with Jesus. Muslims however commit shames in allah’s shameful name.

muslimsopenyoureyes.blogspot.com

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That’s super, Mosacked. If you have anything to say that actually relates to anything you’ve quoted, don’t hesitate to post it.
 
dzheremi said:
That’s super, Mosacked. If you have anything to say that actually relates to anything you’ve quoted, don’t hesitate to post it.
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If you want examples of how shameful acts are committed in the name of islam’s shameful allah by the muslims, you should refer to the newspapers. Or a simple check once every other day will reveal some. Don’t ask me to post things for you that you can get by searching it yourself.

muslimsopenyoureyes.blogspot.com

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