Why Islam

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Jedda said:
…So what we hold is that those people who perform these suicide (bombings) have wrongfully committed suicide, and that this necessitates entry into Hell-Fire, and Allaah¹s refuge is sought and that this person is not a martyr (shaheed). However if a person has done this based upon misinterpretation, thinking that it is permissible, then we hope that he will be saved from sin, but as for martyrdom being written for him, then no, since he has not taken the path of martyrdom. But whoever performs ijtihaad and errs will receive a single reward (if he is a person qualified to make ijtihaad)."

(End of the Shaikh’s words)
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Amazing. What a sad religion.
 
Jedda said:
if any body do it in name of Islam…he is doing sin and it is nothing to do what teaching of Islam says.But ofcourse defending occupation is brith right of every citizen and it is recognized by UN as well.
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So you would support the Christians/others defending the Muslim occupation in places like Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Persia…to regain what was taken by the Muslims over the last 1400 years?
 
Jedda said:
Muslims believe that Prophet Jesus peace be upon him is a messenger from God. He was sent from God Almighty to deliver God’s words to his people. Jesus was never God, nor ever claimed to be God. Jesus was a humble wonderful human being just like the rest of the Prophets and Messengers of God. Muslims also believe that Jesus was never crucified, nor ever died on the cross, nor ever wanted to die on the cross, nor ever was sent to earth to die on the cross .
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Muslims are wrong of course about all of that. I really cannot square how Muhamed is seen as a wonderful human being even in the 7th century context. Murder, theft and assassination even then were taboo. The child bride and marrying his adoptive sons wife also was agaisnt the norms in Arabia then.
 
Verisimilitude said:
So you would support the Christians/others defending the Muslim occupation in places like Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Persia…to regain what was taken by the Muslims over the last 1400 years?
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And you would support a uprising from the American Indians to take back the land that was stolen from them?? Or give back Texas to Mexico?
 
Generic Man said:
Now really, this question is just bigoted and spiteful. Just because some people of one man’s faith have commited certain crimes doesn’t mean that the others should be held responsible.
He didn’t do that, so he isn’t responsible for it.
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No its not. The Muslims have committed countless atrocities throughout the ages. Have you forgotten about the Catholics that were killed recently because of the Pope’s misunderstood comments about Islam?

Islam is a hateful religion that was spread by the sword. That’s the truth. I find it very offensive when Muslims try to tell me that OUR LORD Jesus Christ is not God Incarnate.
 
Verisimilitude said:
Muslims are wrong of course about all of that. I really cannot square how Muhamed is seen as a wonderful human being even in the 7th century context. Murder, theft and assassination even then were taboo. The child bride and marrying his adoptive sons wife also was agaisnt the norms in Arabia then.
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There is no proof of any of that!
As for child bride; a child in our time. Not theirs.
 
Verisimilitude said:
Why don’t you just accept what Mohamed said himself, being just a messenger and only claim the miricle of the Quran? Which it isn’t, but regardless, isn’t it obvious even to you that those other miracles are fabricated to raise the staure of Mohamed as a response to Christs miracles?
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It rasies the stature of God NOT the prophet.
 
Verisimilitude said:
Washing your hands of the whole affair? Do you support those actions of your fellow religiousts?
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Luckily my life dont revolve around a war torn country. But if someone took over america…you bet i would defend my country!
I cannot defend something that is not mine.
 
Jedda said:
I am sure some are; but not as much as the media suggests.
What about the people persecuted in there own homes in the USA? From drunk driving, murder, rape?
Should I hold America accountable for all that? It is the will of one man not a whole country!
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Who is being persecuted for their religious ideology in America? Drunk driving, rape, and muder are civil and criminal offenses that are rightfully punished. Do yo see that as those being persecuted? If the government of the country permitted such actions, yes teh government is responsible, and if the government is elected and representative of the people, yes, the people are liable.
 
Verisimilitude said:
Who is being persecuted for their religious ideology in America? Drunk driving, rape, and muder are civil and criminal offenses that are rightfully punished. Do yo see that as those being persecuted? If the government of the country permitted such actions, yes teh government is responsible, and if the government is elected and representative of the people, yes, the people are liable.
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Unfortunately many countries dont have the democracy we have.
 
Jedda said:
ONE God and and no human interference. IE Paul, pope ex.
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Are you really trying to suggest Mohamed did not interfere? Get rid of Mohamed and Islam is nothing. Get rid of Paul or the Pope Christ still remains. Get rid of Christ the OT still remains, but unfulfilled.
 
Verisimilitude said:
Who is being persecuted for their religious ideology in America? Drunk driving, rape, and muder are civil and criminal offenses that are rightfully punished. Do yo see that as those being persecuted? If the government of the country permitted such actions, yes teh government is responsible, and if the government is elected and representative of the people, yes, the people are liable.
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but the “laws” dont change the will of man.
 
Verisimilitude said:
Are you really trying to suggest Mohamed did not interfere? Get rid of Mohamed and Islam is nothing. Get rid of Paul or the Pope Christ still remains. Get rid of Christ the OT still remains, but unfulfilled.
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One God.
 
Verisimilitude said:
With regard to Islamic countries it is because of Islam and Sharia. Should they adopt our Constitution?
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If humans had common sense we would not need a constitution. But if that will give everyone freedom and education… yes, it would stop people from domination a lower class…
 
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