Why isn't the Church exposing Child protective services?

[lee01238]

Here is a short video exposing this diabolical system:

youtube.com/watch?v=_TcDTJlPWbE

Why is it that the Catholic church won’t even touch this extremely important issue ? I see this as a mortal sin of omission on the part of the church to allow such great evil.This should be preached EVERY day from EVERY pulpit in the country until this system is complete dismantled and ALL the people who were involved be brought to justice. In my view this is as important as stoping abortion.

update: The author of the video and her husband have just been found shot dead last friday just before I posted this video. The police ruled this to be a suicide. Yeah, right.

gpb.org/news/2010/03/29/gbi-schaefer-deaths-likely-murder-suicide

 

[lee01238]

For those who can’t watch the above video we are talking here about a massive government kidnapping operation done under the guise of saving ‘abused’ children.
The scale of this is unprecedented in the history of mankind and has been happening
for at least last 20-30 years and it’s getting worse by the day. The whole church is
for the most part totally unconcerned about this.

Here is some more info I found:
cpscrimes.tripod.com/

 

[Via_Dolorosa]

Your links don’t represent an accurate explanation of what you are talking about. Can you be more clear?

 

[kage_ar]

This sounds like conspiracy theory stuff, do you have some articles from mainstream sources?

 

[St_Francis]

For those who can’t watch the above video we are talking here about a massive government kidnapping operation done under the guise of saving ‘abused’ children.
The scale of this is unprecedented in the history of mankind and has been happening
for at least last 20-30 years and it’s getting worse by the day. The whole church is
for the most part totally unconcerned about this.

Here is some more info I found:
cpscrimes.tripod.com/

I don’t think that the Church generally involves itself in domestic issues like this. The point of CPS is to protect children from harm, and that is a laudable goal. The fact that a lot of bad stuff happens is bad, but a lot of good is done also.

 

[St_Francis]

Here is a written report by Georgia state Senator Nancy Schaefer. Some info from the report, which is indeed very sad reading:

…• that The Adoption and the Safe Families Act, set in motion by President Bill Clinton, offered cash “bonuses” to the states for every child they adopted out of foster care. In order to receive the “adoption incentive bonuses” local child protective services need more children. They must have merchandise (children) that sell and you must have plenty of them so the buyer can choose. **Some counties are known to give a $4,000 bonus for each child adopted and an additional $2,000 for a “special needs” child. **Employees work to keep the federal dollars flowing;

• that there is double dipping. The funding continues as long as the child is out of the home. When a child in foster care is placed with a new family then “adoption bonus funds” are available. When a child is placed in a mental health facility and is on 16 drugs per day, like two children of a constituent of mine, more funds are involved;

… • that The National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect in 1998 reported that **six times as many children died in foster care than in the general public **and that once removed to official “safety”, these children are far more likely to suffer abuse, including sexual molestation than in the general population.

• That according to the California Little Hoover Commission Report in 2003, 30% to 70% of the children in California group homes do not belong there and should not have been removed from their homes.

 

[lee01238]

I don’t think that the Church generally involves itself in domestic issues like this. The point of CPS is to protect children from harm, and that is a laudable goal. The fact that a lot of bad stuff happens is bad, but a lot of good is done also.

Kidnapping hundreds of thousands of children from good families and placing them with total strangers who very often abuse them unspeakably is “a domestic issue that the Church doesn’t involve itself in ?”

All the evidence points to the fact that the CPS is not here to protect any children but to destroy as many as possible.

I believe there must be a very special place in Hell for people who let evil happen because of their willful denial

 

[ahollars]

Kidnapping hundreds of thousands of children from good families and placing them with total strangers who very often abuse them unspeakably is “a domestic issue that the Church doesn’t involve itself in ?”

All the evidence points to the fact that the CPS is not here to protect any children but to destroy as many as possible.

I believe there must be a very special place in Hell for people who let evil happen because of their willful denial

I don’t see you doing anything about it yourself. Your username is nothing more than a place for you to bash the Church because you don’t see what you want to see.

CPS is absolutely necessary, and most of the children in the system are temporary and happen without incident. The reason the Church does not get involved is because it has no legal means to participate. The law must change to allow it in this country, but if you allow the Catholic Church, then you have to allow everyone else, and the floodgates will open. We do what we can. Most children in this country do not go to CPS because they have extended family available to step in.

The Church already runs adoption agencies, but they are being shut down by the legalization of gay marriage. Hospitals are being targeted with health care reform, forcing them to provide contraceptions and having to fight lawsuits for not performing abortions. Now, you want us to lobby Congress to change the law so we can get into the CPS business? Are you going to pay for that? What makes you think the Church is wealthy? We aren’t even on the list of top 500 charities when you look at budgets. Go find a legit criticism and do something about it yourself.

The people on this website are not your average Catholic. We are the ones who pay attention and take our faith seriously. You’re actually upset because we are defending the work that we do participate in. We are not so full of ourselves that we would brag about it. Take your hatred and go look in the mirror.

 

[Zatzat]

The author of the video and her husband have just been found shot dead last friday just before I posted this video. The police ruled this to be a suicide. Yeah, right.

gpb.org/news/2010/03/29/gbi-schaefer-deaths-likely-murder-suicide

Are you suggesting that local police officers deliberately covered up a murder?

What could the police possibly gain by covering up a murder?

Do you consider it gainful to lose your job, your pension, your benefits, face criminal charges and go to jail, all because you and your entire major crime squad, forensic identification officers, first responders, coroner and prosecutors office all conspired to cover up a murder and keep it secret?

The internet, home of the conspiracy theory.

 

[lee01238]

Are you suggesting that local police officers deliberately covered up a murder?

What could the police possibly gain by covering up a murder?

The internet, home of the conspiracy theory.

Yes I’m convinced it’s a clear cover up. The police have no reason to fear losing their jobs because they are completely controled by the same people who run the media, courts, gov’t and everything else including CPS. They are not going to expose and fire their own.

I think this kind of WILLFUL blindnes you are exhibiting is exactly what’s enabling these kinds of criminal activities to continue.

 

[lee01238]

CPS is absolutely necessary, and most of the children in the system are temporary and happen without incident. The reason the Church does not get involved is because it has no legal means to participate. The law must change to allow it in this country, but if you allow the Catholic Church, then you have to allow everyone else, and the floodgates will open. We do what we can. Most children in this country do not go to CPS because they have extended family available to step in.

You obvioulsy don’t know anything about CPS,.nor do you want to educate yourself about this criminal operation. We do not need CPS, period. Children are doing just fine with their
own families… This whole idea of child abuse is a fabricated lie in order to justify the existence of CPS. The only real abuse is in CPS run forster homes. Most children do not stay in this hostile conditions temporarily as you falsely claim, they are gone for good.

I’m not calling for the Catholic Church to start it;s own CPS, because I don’;t think there is a need for it. I want the Church to start exposing it every day from every pulpit in the country until its completely shut down and replaced with nothing else.

 

[Zatzat]

Yes I’m convinced it’s a clear cover up. The police have no reason to fear losing their jobs because they are completely controled by the same people who run the media, courts, gov’t and everything else including CPS. They are no going to expose and fire their own.

I think this kind of WILLFUL blindnes you are exhibiting is exactly what’s enabling these kinds of criminal activities to continue.

Those police officers could all be devout Roman Catholics and for you to disparage there names like this…disgraceful.

 

[Zatzat]

The police have no reason to fear losing their jobs because they are completely controled by the same people who run the media, courts, gov’t and everything else including CPS.

You can’t leave me hanging…WHO is this controlling entity or is it a person?

 

[lee01238]

Those police officers could all be devout Roman Catholics and for you to disparage there names like this…disgraceful.

Whatever.

It says: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.” You are defending the biggest kidnapping operation in the history of humanity. I hope that on the judgement day you can come up with a good excuse for your evil behavior.

 

[kage_ar]

You obvioulsy don’t know anything about CPS,.nor do you want to educate yourself about this criminal operation. We do not need CPS, period. Children are doing just fine with their
own families… This whole idea of child abuse is a fabricated lie in order to justify the existence of CPS. The only real abuse is in CPS run forster homes. Most children do not stay in this hostile conditions temporarily as you falsely claim, they are gone for good.

I’m not calling for the Catholic Church to start it;s own CPS, because I don’;t think there is a need for it. I want the Church to start exposing it every day from every pulpit in the country until its completely shut down and replaced with nothing else.

Wow, if you live in a place where kids are never put in danger by their natural families, you live in the most special place on earth.

Sad thing, there are families out there who abuse and neglect kids. Is CPS perfect, no.

If ONE family from every Church in the US would foster/adopt one child, there would be no need for CPS. The place to start is at home. Open your heart to a foster child.

 

[Ceil-1]

Lee,

I am a foster parent. I have a child as we speak.

I agree with you that CPS is a big machine, and that people are employed and maintain pretty good jobs with it.

Reunification is a goal that is strived for, and, must be carefully documented as such, thank God for that.

When a child is removed, it is a minimum 4-6month process to get them back. There has to be due cause, and there is a due process. Most judges are reasonable.

They are invasive, arrogant, demanding. Foster parents are little more than servants, and, the reimbursement barely pays for the upkeep. We are expected to traipse the kids back and forth to the visitations, though, technically, they are supposed to do it, and reimburse us for the gas money (hardy, har).

I could go on all day. In any case, if due process is respected and applied, it’s okay. A watchdog group on behalf of the parents is a great idea, and should have support from the powers that be. Now that we are bankrupt, we may see the incentives go bye, bye, so, let’s see. Vote people into office who are not so cozy with the system, like this dear woman, may she rest in peace.

The Church has nothing whatsoever to do with any of it, so, what’s up with that?

 

[lee01238]

Wow, if you live in a place where kids are never put in danger by their natural families, you live in the most special place on earth.

Sad thing, there are families out there who abuse and neglect kids. Is CPS perfect, no.
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That’s not an excuse to steal kids from good families and putting them to foster care and this s exactly whats going on.

They may save 1 abused kid, but destroy 99 who were not abused at all. Statistically CPS foster homes are the biggest abuser of kids. If this system is really for the kids then why is it that everything they do is done in secret family courts ? Don’t you think they should at least have juries ?

 

[lee01238]

The Church has nothing whatsoever to do with any of it, so, what’s up with that?

The Church is supposed to expose the system in the same way they expose abortion. I’m doing my part, why can’t every Catholic join me in this effoert ? It would not take long to dismantle this system, if there were more people willing. Unfortunately I do’t think there are enough people of good will, expecially judging from the responses I get in this forum…

 

[Ceil-1]

To dismantle CPS, one would have to dismantle the beauraucrarcy. The Church promotes families, and considers the family sacrosanct. But, most of the children who are put into the system have broken, inadequate homes and family lives. They don’t just willy-nilly take kids. There has to be due cause. That is not to say that, if things continue as they have in Europe they won’t begin to impose statst values on families. It looks as though they are attempting to do that in California over a homeschooled child.

It still doesn’t have anything to do with the Church, though. This is an issue of liberty. It is an individual/family rights problem. Not a moral problem.

 

[lee01238]

To dismantle CPS, one would have to dismantle the beauraucrarcy. The Church promotes families, and considers the family sacrosanct. But, most of the children who are put into the system have broken, inadequate homes and family lives. They don’t just willy-nilly take kids. There has to be due cause. That is not to say that, if things continue as they have in Europe they won’t begin to impose statst values on families. It looks as though they are attempting to do that in California over a homeschooled child.

It still doesn’t have anything to do with the Church, though. This is an issue of liberty. It is an individual/family rights problem. Not a moral problem.

Church is supposed to step in whenever injustice is being done. I think stealing kids from good families would fall into this category.