Why masturbation is bad

[stringbeanduck]

It still does not say if it is a mortal or veniel sin. And the statement is not ex cathedra dogma, so it is not infallible.

Mkay. Let’s all understand something. A sin is something we commit. Masturbation is grave matter, hence the “gravely disordered action” part of the CCC. When something is grave matter and a person has full knowledge of it, commits any way of his own free will he/she is commiting a mortal sin. The CCC won’t call masturbation mortal sin, because technically it’s grave matter. Grave matter, combined with full knowledge of it being grave matter, and freely choosing to commit it anyway is a mortal sin. Do you understand now?

 

[addictedkoala]

I have to agree with those saying masturbation is a sin. I used to hold the view expressed by those defending it here, but in my heart I knew I was just justifying it for my own selfish pleasure, ignoring the teachings of the Church and desensitizing myself to the beauty of any girls I will meet in the future. Even if we’re going strictly on the bible we can look at where Jesus talks about lust, and masturbation virtually requires lust.

I lost track of who lost their wife, but I am truly sorry for that even if we disagree.

 

[davidv]

Mirror, you assume that sexual chastity is required of everyone. I don’t believe that. Chastity is also interpreted as a pure heart. Many are called to sexual chastity, such as priests and nuns. They accept it willingly in order to be priests and nuns. I have never believed that God has called me to sexual chastity. If and when He does, He will inform me of this. For 56 years, He has always told me what He wants from me, and always given me the strength and knowledge of how do accomplish it. I have no doubt He will continue to do so. You do not know my worldview, my heart, my intensely intimate relationship with Our Father, my upbringing, my traumas, my victories, my failures, etc. Only God knows these, and I know that He loves me in spite of any flaws I might have. I don’t have to be a saint to please Him, only do the absolute best I can to discern His will for me and follow it. I have always done that and continue to do so.

I believe you have confused chastity with celebacy. They are not the same. Chastity is the proper expression of our sexuality. Its proper expression is determined by our call in life. If single, widowed, divorced or consecrated religious, its expression is celebacy. If married, its expression is faithfulness to our spouse.

We are all called to live chastely, some are also called to be celebate.

 

[youngsaint]

Suggesting that a boy that age seek aversion therapy, intentionally inflict damage or harm or pain on his body to avoid masturbation. Why not tell him to flog himself with a whip or wear a hare shirt or eat dirt? Nobody here can convince me that Jesus would tell that boy to purposely inflict pain or harm onto his body just so he doesn’t masturbate. That’s so medieval and I thought Catholics had gotten past the inquisition theology.

I’ve slamed my head into a wall a couple times to avoid it.

 

[jrgiancola]

JCMeg: I understand what you are saying. But I’m not able at this time to love another woman. I miss my wife too much.

Youngsaint: You’ve done what no one else on this web site has ever been able to do: make me laugh. You’re hysterical.

As for the rest of you, I refuse to be celibate. If you want to be celibate, enjoy your celibacy. The best I can do right now is masturbate since I do not want to remarry and do not want casual sex.

I’m not going to post on this string anymore. I don’t have anything more to say.

 

[Mirror_Mirror]

Mirror, you assume that sexual chastity is required of everyone. I don’t believe that. Chastity is also interpreted as a pure heart. Many are called to sexual chastity, such as priests and nuns. They accept it willingly in order to be priests and nuns. I have never believed that God has called me to sexual chastity. If and when He does, He will inform me of this. For 56 years, He has always told me what He wants from me, and always given me the strength and knowledge of how do accomplish it. I have no doubt He will continue to do so. You do not know my worldview, my heart, my intensely intimate relationship with Our Father, my upbringing, my traumas, my victories, my failures, etc. Only God knows these, and I know that He loves me in spite of any flaws I might have. I don’t have to be a saint to please Him, only do the absolute best I can to discern His will for me and follow it. I have always done that and continue to do so.

I believe you have confused chastity with celebacy. They are not the same. Chastity is the proper expression of our sexuality. Its proper expression is determined by our call in life. If single, widowed, divorced or consecrated religious, its expression is celebacy. If married, its expression is faithfulness to our spouse.

We are all called to live chastely, some are also called to be celebate.

Thanks davidv.

 

[larry85704]

Hi jrgiancola

You are lucky. I only had 13 years with my wife.

But then you are unlucky too. So many wonderful memories to remind you of what you have lost.

A bit of perspective for you.

What you and your wife accomplished is getting rare. Most of the teaching of the Church is designed to help people accomplish what you have accomplished. You must have learned those lessons very well. People should listen to you, to seek your advice, on relationships and sex.

I bet you agree that when you are married masturbation is not preferable. Sexual intercourse is the way to go. But you are not there any more.

You are the servant that, when given talents to invest, returned God’s original investment and much more. Do not fret, God will remember. Just be careful about those widows. Some of them are wonderful, many have never shared what you and your wife shared.

No one should be critical of you. I thank you for being married for so many years. Do not be annoyed by the flies buzzing around you. They are just being flies.

 

[onmyknees]

Wrong. Catholics are only bound to believe in ex cathedra, infallible dogma. As it turns out though, I do believe in 99% of what our church teaches. Otherwise, I would not be a Catholic. Catholic doctrine has been wrong at times in the past. But eventually, our church has always made necessary corrections. I have faith in God and our church that this will continue. After all, we do have the only true church, let’s face it.

Hi jrgiancola,

Catholic doctine has never been changed and cannot be changed. The teachings of faith and morals also cannot be changed. Maybe you are thinking of the little “t” traditions which can and have been changed. Like no meat on Fridays, woman wearing head coverings, or lay people being involved in the parish.

I so am sorry that you have losted your beloved wife. I can’t imagine how hard it must be to be without your soul mate. It sounds like your marriage was a beautiful example of married love! I think sometimes Jesus allows these sufferings because He loves us so much and He wants us to grow closer to Him.

Are you able to get to daily mass, participate in the sacraments, or pray. This is what helped me to finally stop this sin and grow closer to Jesus. God Bless you!