Why Muslims and Jews Hate Each Others

[tomshaikh]

Hello Everyone,

Why is so much hatred between muslims and jews.Although they both believes in Monotheism. Please point out the difference between judaism and islam. We muslims think that they are upset that why Prophet Muhammad pbuh came to Arabia instead of Jeureselm like other Prophets did and they are still waiting for something like building a temple with the help of whom i donot know. Any jew or muslim who clear this why this hatred between each other.Christians are waiting for Jesus pbuh and Muslims are waiting for Imam Mahdi.What about jews?

 

[Kaninchen]

Why is so much hatred between muslims and jews.

I’m afraid I’m merely indifferent to Islam.

We muslims think that they are upset that why Prophet Muhammad pbuh came to Arabia instead of Jeureselm like other Prophets

Well, you Muslims are wrong. There’s not the vaguest reason why anybody would care where he went - somebody else’s problem, somebody else’s religion - he’s of no religious significance whatsoever.

 

[ralphinal]

Ya’ll know I love chiming in when I am not involved.

First, some Muslims pull quotes from the Koran or Hadiths to hate Jews and Christians. This is fact. They use these quotes to defend terrorism. This is a modern reason.

Muslims rule many of the lands that were at one time Jewish. Historically, the Jewish people have had a tough time when they were minorities in states run by religious governments.

As a Christian who has studied a good level of post-WW II history, I think that one reason is tied to modern Isreal. First, the West helped create Isreal after the war so that the Nazi evils might not happen again. When Isreal was established, many Palestinians who are Muslim were displaced. These people, as a whole, were poor and poorly educated. They flooded into surrounding Muslim states, proving to be a tax on them. These states saw this and wanted to get them back where they came from. Isreal became more than just a new state but a real cause for targeted violence. How much of the rhetoric is that Isreal should be destroyed because they are Jewish and how much says that a Palestinian homeland must be established without mentioning Isreal at all? AS so much of the Muslim world is not as aware of the political movements, they see their governments targeting Isreal and seem to feel that it is because they are Jewish, thus coming to the false conlusion that they hate the Jews.

I know that there are cases of Jewish people having hatred directed toward Muslims. IN the West, however, this is almost unheard of. For example, which group in Europe has been known to attack the other side’s religious buildings?

 

[MugenOne]

And most of the Arab states are repressive or authoritarian. They need to keep the Arab minds somewhere. So, they pound their heads with anti-Jewish thing and that. Ask any Arab Israeli if he or she wants to live in Gaza or West Bank, and the answer is no.

The another answer to this question is jealousy. The Jews have produced ton of bright folks in science, math, business, music, Hollywood, etc. They seem to be everywhere. Your PC is possibly powered by Intel which is Jewish or your network is possibly Checkpoint enabled, it’s also Jewish. The orange or persimmon you buy in the supermarket are possibly from Sharon farm. Armored CAT D11 tractors used by the US military to bulldoze homes in Iraq are from US with Israeli technology.

Ya’ll know I love chiming in when I am not involved.

First, some Muslims pull quotes from the Koran or Hadiths to hate Jews and Christians. This is fact. They use these quotes to defend terrorism. This is a modern reason.

Muslims rule many of the lands that were at one time Jewish. Historically, the Jewish people have had a tough time when they were minorities in states run by religious governments.

As a Christian who has studied a good level of post-WW II history, I think that one reason is tied to modern Isreal. First, the West helped create Isreal after the war so that the Nazi evils might not happen again. When Isreal was established, many Palestinians who are Muslim were displaced. These people, as a whole, were poor and poorly educated. They flooded into surrounding Muslim states, proving to be a tax on them. These states saw this and wanted to get them back where they came from. Isreal became more than just a new state but a real cause for targeted violence. How much of the rhetoric is that Isreal should be destroyed because they are Jewish and how much says that a Palestinian homeland must be established without mentioning Isreal at all? AS so much of the Muslim world is not as aware of the political movements, they see their governments targeting Isreal and seem to feel that it is because they are Jewish, thus coming to the false conlusion that they hate the Jews.

I know that there are cases of Jewish people having hatred directed toward Muslims. IN the West, however, this is almost unheard of. For example, which group in Europe has been known to attack the other side’s religious buildings?

 

[tomshaikh]

And most of the Arab states are repressive or authoritarian. They need to keep the Arab minds somewhere. So, they pound their heads with anti-Jewish thing and that. Ask any Arab Israeli if he or she wants to live in Gaza or West Bank, and the answer is no.

The another answer to this question is jealousy. The Jews have produced ton of bright folks in science, math, business, music, Hollywood, etc. They seem to be everywhere. Your PC is possibly powered by Intel which is Jewish or your network is possibly Checkpoint enabled, it’s also Jewish. The orange or persimmon you buy in the supermarket are possibly from Sharon farm. Armored CAT D11 tractors used by the US military to bulldoze homes in Iraq are from US with Israeli technology.

Well i am amaze you go by the flow. After all that good things about Jewish people. But one thing you are forgetting that jewish people do not believes in Jesus pbuh whereas, We MUSLIMS believes in Jesus pbuh from the bottom of our hearts. Who do you choose than huh? All those new invention which will be left in this world when we died. Mercy for Muslims please. Mugen and Ralp!!!

 

[LaMar]

Silly people hate other people because it’s easier to displace their own internal faults upon an external scapegoat, and fight the scapegoat, rather than taking that frightening step of self-examination.

Most of the Muslims and Jews in the world don’t bother hating anyone. Hatred is a waste of time and effort, which adds nothing of value to the subject’s life, and it’s not something the prophets of either tradition would ever have recommended.

 

[Sister_Amy]

tomshaikh, kindly do not say “we muslims” unless you can back up your statement.

I don’t want to be lumpted in with your hatred, if you hate Jews.

I don’t.

 

[Rayaan]

I said this in a different thread…

The biggest enemies of the Jews have always been the Christians, and history is a testament to this, from the crusades, to the inquisition to the holocaust to countless mini genocides in many christian nations over the centuries.

Like I said in another thread, I am not defending every muslims/jewish interaction, only to say that it wasnt all bad, and there was no where near the massacre that occurred in Christian lands occurred in Muslim lands.

The trouble today is Israel, it is not that muslims do not want to see the jews happy or safe in a state of there own, It is ONLY that they screwed Muslims so so so so so very badly.

It was the Germans/europeans.christians who commited genocide against the Jews in Europe and in response to this they made life hell for muslims In Palestine, expecting us to accept occupation and humiliation. This not only has led to alot of turmoil in palestine/israel but alot of anger against the jews across the muslim Ummah

 

[ralphinal]

I said this in a different thread…

The biggest enemies of the Jews have always been the Christians, and history is a testament to this, from the crusades, to the inquisition to the holocaust to countless mini genocides in many christian nations over the centuries.

Like I said in another thread, I am not defending every muslims/jewish interaction, only to say that it wasnt all bad, and there was no where near the massacre that occurred in Christian lands occurred in Muslim lands.

I really wish people would stop saying that Christians were the cause of the Holocost. Yes, there were Christians involved, but the governement of Nazi Germany was not Christian. In fact, it was leaning towards Paganism in the end.

The trouble today is Israel, it is not that muslims do not want to see the jews happy or safe in a state of there own, It is ONLY that they screwed Muslims so so so so so very badly.

It was the Germans/europeans.christians who commited genocide against the Jews in Europe and in response to this they made life hell for muslims In Palestine, expecting us to accept occupation and humiliation. This not only has led to alot of turmoil in palestine/israel but alot of anger against the jews across the muslim Ummah

There is truth in this once you get past the rhetoric.

 

[Rayaan]

Ralph do you know a very very very annoying thing, westerners/americans/christians etc d, is that they BROAD STROKE MUSLIM, meaning they pain a very large group of people with one brush…

E.g a dictator oppresses people (like saddam, shah of iran both of whom were secular) and for the west/americans/christians it is Muslims who are doing it, the same with terrorism, some nut kills somebody and it is Muslims (all 1.5 billion of us) who did it…

Germany was a christian nation, with a people who religous background is christian, and they commited the holocaust… Atleast you get how muslims feel when christians/westerners broad stroke us now.

Like I said we never hated jews, but they have realy screwed us over the last 60 years, treated us very poorly and very unfairly, it is not in our nature to accept this kind of injustice laying down, so giving up against a stronger enemy is not an option… so this mess goes on…

But current anger against jews, is a modern phenomenon

 

[AgnosTheist]

I said this in a different thread…

The biggest enemies of the Jews have always been the Christians

Thats your opinion. What truly matters is what Jews themselves think. Do they like Muslims better or do they like Christians better? I suspect its the latter.

 

[AgnosTheist]

tomshaikh, kindly do not say “we muslims” unless you can back up your statement.

take this as an evidence that there is really a serious problem of anti-semitism in the muslim world.

i think the main cause is the palestinian conflict. not only did jews take back what muslims think belongs to them forever, but the muslims have also suffered one humiliating defeat after another.

 

[Rayaan]

The jews today may very well like christians better, even though 50 years go millions of the them were massacred by christians, thats not the point, i said historically chritian people have massacred and attacked the jews more then the muslims ever have…

Its just historical fact…

Anti-semtism is when you hate jews for being jews, many muslims are also semites, we dont hate jews for being jews,

Many muslims are very angry at the jews/israelis for what has happened in israel, the poor treatment, the attacks, the humiliation of a people’s…

 

[LDNCatholic]

Ralph do you know a very very very annoying thing, westerners/americans/christians etc d, is that they BROAD STROKE MUSLIM, meaning they pain a very large group of people with one brush…

E.g a dictator oppresses people (like saddam, shah of iran both of whom were secular) and for the west/americans/christians it is Muslims who are doing it, the same with terrorism, some nut kills somebody and it is Muslims (all 1.5 billion of us) who did it…

Germany was a christian nation, with a people who religous background is christian, and they commited the holocaust… Atleast you get how muslims feel when christians/westerners broad stroke us now.

Like I said we never hated jews, but they have realy screwed us over the last 60 years, treated us very poorly and very unfairly, it is not in our nature to accept this kind of injustice laying down, so giving up against a stronger enemy is not an option… so this mess goes on…

But current anger against jews, is a modern phenomenon

Are you not also painting all Christians, Westerners (of which you are one) and Americans, with one brush? We don’t ALL believe that ALL Muslims do this, or that.

 

[ralphinal]

Ralph do you know a very very very annoying thing, westerners/americans/christians etc d, is that they BROAD STROKE MUSLIM, meaning they pain a very large group of people with one brush…

I have in the past I may in the future do this. This time, I did not.

E.g a dictator oppresses people (like saddam, shah of iran both of whom were secular) and for the west/americans/christians it is Muslims who are doing it, the same with terrorism, some nut kills somebody and it is Muslims (all 1.5 billion of us) who did it…

Sometimes it is a Muslim who did it. IN that case, we should see did they do it in denfense of their form of Islam. If so, then we should study why they felt that way in light of Islam. If not, then there is no issue with Islam. For example, I cannot in good conscience blaim any faith for Saddam. He was a typical, run of the mill dictator. Same with the Shah. Now, ayatolla khomanii, there is another story…

Germany was a christian nation, with a people who religous background is christian, and they commited the holocaust… Atleast you get how muslims feel when christians/westerners broad stroke us now.

Let us now put all the cards on the table. Let us look at two events that changed the world. Let us look at the holocost and 9/11. They were both done in “Christian” Nations. The holocost was undertaken by a corrupt government run by a true nutcase. The first target was the Communists, then Jews and Gypses, then Catholics. It was not done in the name of any creed other than for the FatherLand. 9/11 was done by Muslim extremists. They did it to support their own brand of radical Islam. They were screaming praises to Allah as the planes hit. Now, which of these was a crime by a religious group done because of religion?

Like I said we never hated jews, but they have realy screwed us over the last 60 years, treated us very poorly and very unfairly, it is not in our nature to accept this kind of injustice laying down, so giving up against a stronger enemy is not an option… so this mess goes on…

But current anger against jews, is a modern phenomenon

Now who is painting with a broad brush? Muslims have never done anything as a whole group. Some have hated Jews, some have not, and some could have cared less. Other posters will pull quotes from the Koran and ahadith or history to say that they have. I could care less. I am not saying that there is not some acceptable anger about the last 60 years, but you know what? Life can be cruel sometimes. Go back and look at WHY the Muslim governements hate Isreal. Look closely at the reasons. These people hate the Palestinians just as much. If they can get rid of Isreal, they can rid themselves of the Palestinians, too.

 

[ralphinal]

The jews today may very well like christians better, even though 50 years go millions of the them were massacred by christians, thats not the point, i said historically chritian people have massacred and attacked the jews more then the muslims ever have…

Its just historical fact…

Anti-semtism is when you hate jews for being jews, many muslims are also semites, we dont hate jews for being jews,

Many muslims are very angry at the jews/israelis for what has happened in israel, the poor treatment, the attacks, the humiliation of a people’s…

Are Muslims also angry at Muslims for the poor treatment, attacks, and humiliations of people in their lands? I have never seen Muslims riot because a Christian was mistreaded. I have never heard of retribution by Muslims when a Church is burned. Nope. Sorry.

 

[AgnosTheist]

Its just historical fact…

Its a historical fact that jews had the worst episodes in christian lands. but they also had the best experiences in it. maybe that kinda cancels each other out.

 

[tomshaikh]

tomshaikh, kindly do not say “we muslims” unless you can back up your statement.

I don’t want to be lumpted in with your hatred, if you hate Jews.

I don’t.

Please stay away from the conversation coz you are having problem what i am suppose to tell. Do not act like Eve. And I am muslim say salaam first if you are one. Because when you talk to other muslim say Salaam-O-Alikum than start your conversation. I tried so many time salaam to you but you didn’t response me back. So I am confuse if you really muslim from heart or not. WAllahoAllam!!! I know lot of Non-Believer have many knowledge about Islam. Please donot talk to me. Bye

 

[Sister_Amy]

لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله

 

[LaMar]

لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله

You don’t need to do that here.

Those who know you, know you… (to steal a phrase from Imam Malik).